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Title: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: tufty on August 29, 2008, 05:26:27 AM
MotoGP Free Practice Nr. 1 Classification
Pos.   Num.   Rider   Nation   Team   Motorcycle   Lap time   Km/h   Gap
1   1   Casey STONER   AUS   Ducati Marlboro Team   Ducati   1'35.422   274.529   
2   5   Colin EDWARDS   USA   Tech 3 Yamaha   Yamaha   1'35.424   272.796   0.002
3   15   Alex DE ANGELIS   RSM   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   1'36.145   267.459   0.723
4   48   Jorge LORENZO   SPA   Fiat Yamaha Team   Yamaha   1'36.375   271.766   0.953
5   46   Valentino ROSSI   ITA   Fiat Yamaha Team   Yamaha   1'36.464   273.141   1.042
6   69   Nicky HAYDEN   USA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   1'36.518   273.417   1.096
7   4   Andrea DOVIZIOSO   ITA   JiR Team Scot MotoGP   Honda   1'36.602   269.932   1.180
8   7   Chris VERMEULEN   AUS   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   Suzuki   1'36.608   267.194   1.186
9   52   James TOSELAND   GBR   Tech 3 Yamaha   Yamaha   1'36.740   270.135   1.318
10   56   Shinya NAKANO   JPN   San Carlo Honda Gresini   Honda   1'36.883   272.796   1.461
11   24   Toni ELIAS   SPA   Alice Team   Ducati   1'37.099   274.739   1.677
12   14   Randy DE PUNIET   FRA   LCR Honda MotoGP   Honda   1'37.196   268.589   1.774
13   65   Loris CAPIROSSI   ITA   Rizla Suzuki MotoGP   Suzuki   1'37.355   271.220   1.933
14   2   Dani PEDROSA   SPA   Repsol Honda Team   Honda   1'37.380   276.639   1.958
15   50   Sylvain GUINTOLI   FRA   Alice Team   Ducati   1'37.534   277.278   2.112
16   33   Marco MELANDRI   ITA   Ducati Marlboro Team   Ducati   1'37.669   273.072   2.247
17   13   Anthony WEST   AUS   Kawasaki Racing Team   Kawasaki   1'37.929   269.797   2.507

Say what you like about Stoner, but he always comes out ready to play...
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: Jester on August 29, 2008, 06:51:49 AM
Looks like Pedrobot is tossing in the towel.  Either that or he's definately not healthy yet.  Disappointing.  Maybe he'll pick up the pace tomorrow.
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: mostrobelle on August 29, 2008, 09:09:29 AM
On the flip side, it looks like Jorge might actually have pieced himself together enough to ride decently.  Poor guy (sorta, I think many are saying "Karma's a pregnant dog)...he's had a bunch of nasty get-offs.  Ouch.
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: mikeb on August 29, 2008, 09:12:55 AM
Quote from: tufty on August 29, 2008, 05:26:27 AM

Say what you like about Stoner, but he always comes out ready to play...

Yeah, the dude is always fast.  He certainly sets the bar high for the others......
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: Jester on August 29, 2008, 11:39:53 AM
QuoteCasey Stoner fastest on Friday at Misano, but victory hopes thrown into doubt after 're-opening' a broken scaphoid bone.

Despite dominating both Friday practice sessions with a flawless opening day performance at Misano, Casey Stoner's San Marino Grand Prix hopes have been thrown into doubt by a freak wrist injury.

The reigning world champion finished the day a comfortable 0.418secs ahead of world championship leader Valentino Rossi - but somehow re-opened a broken scaphoid bone, damaged back in 2003, in the process.

"The scaphoid is a really strange one because there has been no impact on it," explained a surprised Stoner. "I was just adjusting my back protector before going out for one of my runs this afternoon and I felt some pain.

"It got worse as the session went on so we decided to check it out with the Clinica Mobile and I couldn't believe it when they showed me the x-ray - it seems the bone I broke in 2003 has re-opened."

The injury will make it extremely painful and awkward for Stoner to ride on Saturday, although the Australian will undergo physio and wear a special support in order to give it his best shot.


Someone sabotaged his bone!   :P
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: Capo on August 30, 2008, 04:51:25 PM
FP2
1. Casey Stoner AUS Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 34.806 secs
2. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team (B) 1min 35.224 secs
3. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 35.377 secs
4. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP (M) 1min 35.620 secs
5. Chris Vermeulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 35.743 secs
6. Jorge Lorenzo SPA Fiat Yamaha Team (M) 1min 35.766 secs
7. Alex de Angelis RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 35.861 secs
8. Colin Edwards USA Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 35.913 secs
9. Shinya Nakano JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 36.100 secs
10. James Toseland GBR Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 36.105 secs
11. Nicky Hayden USA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 36.189 secs
12. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 36.219 secs
13. Andrea Dovizioso ITA JiR Team Scot MotoGP (M) 1min 36.356 secs
14. Toni Elias SPA Alice Team (B) 1min 36.425 secs
15. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alice Team (B) 1min 36.619 secs
16. Marco Melandri ITA Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 37.096 secs
17. Anthony West AUS Kawasaki Racing Team (B) 1min 38.239 secs

FP3
1. Casey Stoner AUS Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 34.365 secs
2. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team (B) 1min 35.076 secs
3. Jorge Lorenzo SPA Fiat Yamaha Team (M) 1min 35.160 secs
4. Chris Vermeulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 35.362 secs
5. Colin Edwards USA Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 35.425 secs
6. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 35.520 secs
7. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 35.534 secs
8. Shinya Nakano JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 35.549 secs
9. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP (M) 1min 35.628 secs
10. Alex de Angelis RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 35.739 secs
11. Andrea Dovizioso ITA JiR Team Scot MotoGP (M) 1min 35.802 secs
12. Toni Elias SPA Alice Team (B) 1min 35.853 secs
13. James Toseland GBR Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 36.047 secs
14. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alice Team (B) 1min 36.089 secs
15. Nicky Hayden USA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 36.203 secs
16. Marco Melandri ITA Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 36.273 secs
17. Anthony West AUS Kawasaki Racing Team (B) 1min 36.957 secs
18. John Hopkins USA Kawasaki Racing Team (B) 1min 37.346 secs

Qualifying
1. Casey Stoner AUS Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 33.378 secs
2. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team (B) 1min 33.888 secs
3. Jorge Lorenzo SPA Fiat Yamaha Team (M) 1min 33.964 secs
4. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP (M) 1min 34.236 secs
5. Toni Elias SPA Alice Team (B) 1min 34.322 secs
6. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 34.398 secs
7. Chris Vermeulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 34.461 secs
8. Shinya Nakano JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 34.494 secs
9. James Toseland GBR Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 34.652 secs
10. Colin Edwards USA Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 34.795 secs
11. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 34.926 secs
12. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alice Team (B) 1min 34.961 secs
13. Alex de Angelis RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 35.153 secs
14. Andrea Dovizioso ITA JiR Team Scot MotoGP (M) 1min 35.381 secs
15. Marco Melandri ITA Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 35.418 secs
16. Nicky Hayden USA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 35.584 secs
17. John Hopkins USA Kawasaki Racing Team (B) 1min 35.980 secs
18. Anthony West AUS Kawasaki Racing Team (B) 1min 37.047 secs

Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: darylbowden on August 31, 2008, 08:33:15 AM
So, what was it this time?  Another bump?

Well, this championship is over and I gotta think Casey's starting to doubt that front end more and more which is baaaaad news for the team.

On a positive note, Lorenzo and Elias looked good and there was some great racing further down the order, especially Vermuelen and Toseland.
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: Chococat on August 31, 2008, 10:59:41 AM
Wow.

Well, at least Stoner got his championship before Rossi got in his head and ended his career. Unlike Biaggi and Gibernau.

I kind of feel bad for Stoner.

Not really. [laugh]

GO #46!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: techno on August 31, 2008, 06:00:43 PM
Maybe Rossi upgraded the curse for Stoner. Instead of "you will never win another race" which worked on Gibernau, the Stoner version is "you will never finish another race". Seems to be working so far.

Its frustrating being an aussie and a duc fan. [roll]
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: Jester on August 31, 2008, 09:07:14 PM
Yeah, I mentioned it before, but I fear the old Casey is starting to emerge again.  I think he's just pushing harder and harder trying to break Rossi, and eventually dumps the bike.  He doesn't want to race head to head with him, but he's dumping the bike trying to ride away. 
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: johnster on August 31, 2008, 09:33:17 PM
Quote from: JesterDFW on August 31, 2008, 09:07:14 PM
Yeah, I mentioned it before, but I fear the old Casey is starting to emerge again.  I think he's just pushing harder and harder trying to break Rossi, and eventually dumps the bike.  He doesn't want to race head to head with him, but he's dumping the bike trying to ride away. 

It definitely looked like he tried to stuff it on that turn and overloaded the front, right?? He might've lost the rear, but it looked like he tucked the front....

-Hey, Elias made it up there repping Ducati at least... :-\
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: jagstang on August 31, 2008, 09:44:03 PM
Quote from: techno on August 31, 2008, 06:00:43 PM
Maybe Rossi upgraded the curse for Stoner. Instead of "you will never win another race" which worked on Gibernau, the Stoner version is "you will never finish another race". Seems to be working so far.

Its frustrating being an aussie and a duc fan. [roll]

There is this one guy named Troy...
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: Giannis on August 31, 2008, 10:05:26 PM
Quote from: Chococat on August 31, 2008, 10:59:41 AM

GO #46!!!


+1  [beer] [drink]
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: Spidey on September 01, 2008, 03:22:30 PM
For some perspective, my 3 year-old neighbor earned as many MotoGP points in the last two races as did World Champion Casey Stoner.  And the 3 y/o crashed fewer bikes doing it. 

That makes me  :'(
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: Capo on September 01, 2008, 03:44:48 PM
Quote from: Spidey on September 01, 2008, 03:22:30 PM
For some perspective, my 3 year-old neighbor earned as many MotoGP points in the last two races as did World Champion Casey Stoner.  And the 3 y/o crashed fewer bikes doing it. 

That makes me  :'(

What were his lap times??
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: Spidey on September 01, 2008, 03:48:55 PM
I dunno, but he was f'n screamin'!  ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: Jester on September 01, 2008, 03:50:28 PM
QuoteWhat were his lap times??

If you can't finish, it doesn't matter.   :P
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: ZLTFUL on September 01, 2008, 07:24:20 PM
Being the world's biggest Rossi Fanboy, I have to say that I am more disappointed in the lack of good racing than I am in anything else. I was giddy as a schoolgirl through the race at Laguna...
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: arai_speed on September 01, 2008, 08:37:19 PM
Quote from: JesterDFW on August 31, 2008, 09:07:14 PM
Yeah, I mentioned it before, but I fear the old Casey is starting to emerge again.  I think he's just pushing harder and harder trying to break Rossi, and eventually dumps the bike.  He doesn't want to race head to head with him, but he's dumping the bike trying to ride away. 

I'm with you man.  Since Laguna it seems that Casey has tried to make it a point to show everyone that HE is the fastest guy out there and noone can touch him.  It seems to work in qualifying and practice but hasn't been very fruitful during race distance.  Aside from that it was extremely boring race and I ended up fastforwarding till the end. 
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: derby on September 01, 2008, 09:26:49 PM
Quote from: arai_speed on September 01, 2008, 08:37:19 PM
Aside from that it was extremely boring race and I ended up fastforwarding till the end. 

ha! i woke up to watch the race. as soon as casey binned it, i paused the stream and went back to sleep.  ;D
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: darylbowden on September 01, 2008, 10:03:21 PM
Quote from: derby on September 01, 2008, 09:26:49 PM
ha! i woke up to watch the race. as soon as casey binned it, i paused the stream and went back to sleep.  ;D

There were some really good battles further back in the pack.  Dovi, Vermuelen, Toseland and Capi had some really nice battles and Marco even diced it up a bit as he climbed through the field.
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: derby on September 01, 2008, 10:08:47 PM
Quote from: darylbowden on September 01, 2008, 10:03:21 PM
There were some really good battles further back in the pack.  Dovi, Vermuelen, Toseland and Capi had some really nice battles and Marco even diced it up a bit as he climbed through the field.

oh, i know.. i finished watching the whole race when i woke up.  ;D
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: ZLTFUL on September 02, 2008, 05:09:20 AM
Being the cheapskate that I am, I am forced to watch the leader and the battle for 2nd and 3rd while they almost completely ignore the good fights further back. Wish they would back off the leader coverage when he gets out a few seconds ahead and focus moe on the good battles for position.
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: Cider on September 02, 2008, 06:41:41 AM
Check out the 250 race for some good "fights."
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: sh on September 02, 2008, 12:10:40 PM
the 250 race was excellent.  barbera was a beast.  I am surprised pasini and simoncelli (and the rest of italy) didn't torch his trailor after the race.
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: jswledhed on September 02, 2008, 02:34:15 PM
Quote from: sh on September 02, 2008, 12:10:40 PM
the 250 race was excellent.  barbera was a beast.  I am surprised pasini and simoncelli (and the rest of italy) didn't torch his trailor after the race.

+1 on all counts.  When is that nutcase going to graduate to the big bikes? :o

I don't understand what's happened with Stoner.  He can do dozens of laps at an utterly blinding pace in the practice sessions, then dump it in, what, eight laps in the race.  WTF? :-\
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: gm2 on September 02, 2008, 03:06:45 PM
Quote from: jswledhed on September 02, 2008, 02:34:15 PM
I don't understand what's happened with Stoner.  He can do dozens of laps at an utterly blinding pace in the practice sessions, then dump it in, what, eight laps in the race.  WTF? :-\

(if you have a motogp.com account)

Stoner explains Misano crash (http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2008/Stoner+explains+Misano+crash)

what he says sounds a bit like an excuse, or an attempt to put the blame on others.  but that's generally his speaking style.

also a funny tidbit at the end about tires and pedro.
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: darylbowden on September 02, 2008, 03:28:28 PM
Quote from: gm2 on September 02, 2008, 03:06:45 PM
(if you have a motogp.com account)

Stoner explains Misano crash (http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2008/Stoner+explains+Misano+crash)

what he says sounds a bit like an excuse, or an attempt to put the blame on others.  but that's generally his speaking style.

also a funny tidbit at the end about tires and pedro.

That interview pretty much sums up why I don't like Stoner.
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: derby on September 02, 2008, 04:02:38 PM
jeez...

"i'm the fastest rider, whether or not we finish those races..."  [roll]

it's funny, with all that "advantage" he says he currently has over rossi, he's 75 points behind him in the championship.

and regarding pedrosa/bridgestone and "people always want what they can't have"... how about wanting some tires that work? hell, even colin sounded like he was almost ready to jump the michelin ship after laguna.

casey lives in his own little dream world. i woulda thought that this season would be a wake-up call for him.

nope.
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: darylbowden on September 02, 2008, 04:10:55 PM
Quote from: derby on September 02, 2008, 04:02:38 PM
how about wanting some tires that work? hell, even colin sounded like he was almost ready to jump the michelin ship after laguna.

gm2 linked me to this earlier...

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2008/Edwards+reflects+on+current+form

Colin's pretty done with them too.
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: darylbowden on September 02, 2008, 04:14:23 PM
Quote from: derby on September 02, 2008, 04:02:38 PM
casey lives in his own little dream world. i woulda thought that this season would be a wake-up call for him.

I love at the end where he goes into his "respect" rant again.  Seriously, nobody has questioned his ability at all (and he was answering a question that wasn't even asked) and yet he still feels slighted. 

Casey Stoner can lick my taint. 
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: mikeb on September 02, 2008, 04:19:47 PM
Quote from: derby on September 02, 2008, 04:02:38 PM


"i'm the fastest rider, whether or not we finish those races..."  [roll]



Well, if he wraps himself in that sentiment it may keep him warm at night.......but that's about all.

He's such a wanker.
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: derby on September 02, 2008, 04:23:45 PM
Quote from: darylbowden on September 02, 2008, 04:10:55 PM
gm2 linked me to this earlier...

http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2008/Edwards+reflects+on+current+form

Colin's pretty done with them too.

edwards on sachsenring: http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2008/Edwards+wanting+Michelin+step+up

edwards on brno: http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2008/Edwards+on+Michelin+performance
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: gm2 on September 02, 2008, 04:29:31 PM
"I dunno, maybe we should all move to Metzler"   [laugh]
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: ducpainter on September 02, 2008, 04:38:22 PM
Quote from: gm2 on September 02, 2008, 04:29:31 PM
"I dunno, maybe we should all move to Metzler"   [laugh]
As slow as I go I'm thinking of Shinkos.... ;)
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: darylbowden on September 02, 2008, 04:44:34 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on September 02, 2008, 04:38:22 PM
As slow as I go I'm thinking of Shinkos.... ;)

Have you not tried the Tomahawks yet?  They come in red AND green too!!!!
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: ducpainter on September 02, 2008, 04:49:04 PM
Quote from: darylbowden on September 02, 2008, 04:44:34 PM
Have you not tried the Tomahawks yet?  They come in red AND green too!!!!
I'll put those on the wish list.   [thumbsup]
Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: darylbowden on September 02, 2008, 04:53:25 PM
Quote from: ducpainter on September 02, 2008, 04:49:04 PM
I'll put those on the wish list.   [thumbsup]

They have a few different models, these are the ones you want.

(http://shop.desser.com/images/street.jpg)


Also, it seems their marketing dept is catering to the post-op crowd...

(http://www.totalmotorcycle.com/BBS/album_pic.php?pic_id=1840)


Title: Re: MotoGP SAN MARINO.... spoiler alert!
Post by: ducpainter on September 02, 2008, 05:10:31 PM
I need a few more sets of 'Skinz so I can coordinate with all of them.