Hey guys, just got off the phone with power commander and they don't have a stock map for the S4R. They have one for the S4, but its different than S4R. I'm waiting for my ducati dealer to get ther exhaust that I want from italy(might be a month or more). Untill then I'd like to use my pciii to get some gain out of my stock setup. Does anyone have a map for a stock S4R 05 ???? Id really really like to get one. When i get the exhaust on i'm going to get it tuned. its just going to be a little while. Someone please help me out!!!
thanks!!!
i just bought a PCIII that has a S4R map loaded onto it. its for a slip on setup with open airbox. It might work for you if you drop the airbox. or you can just play around with the values and minus like 1 point all across the board.
its a custom map for an 05 S4R.
Man I'd really appreciate it! That has to be a better start than the zero map.
the zero map is just that... no mods at all. it's like running the stock fuelling, ony your PCIII is in place.
got a tuner near you? messing w/your mapping will have the biggest effect once everything else (intake, exhaust, etc) are finished.
yea, the zero map makes no change to the bike. But you can get a map (usually from power commander website), that will make a stock motorcycle run alot better as well. I'm looking for a stock map that I can run for a month or two untill my exhaust comes in. If anyone has a map for a completely stock bike then I'd love to get it to use for a bit. The ones i have are all for some sort of modified bike.
Thanks!!
but...since your bike is stock, there really isn't much need for the PCIII.
or am I missing something? ???
Yea but dosent the zero map make no changes. What i'm looking for is a map for a stock bike, which will help the bike right now. Then when I get the exhaust on i'll get a custom map. If anyone has a stock s4r map i'ld love to get it. right now all the maps I can find are all for some sort of modified bike, or for the s4, not s4r.
Thanks
are you having problems w/the bike's stock fuelling?
I'm guessing the OP want to use the PC3 to correct any deficiencies the stock map may have.
IMO, waist of time, unless you know there is a problem. Just ride. [moto]
your right..i just paid for this thing, and i've got it so i want to use it to see what diff it will make.
your S4R should run pretty good with the stock map, the PCIII will only make it better.
Im in the same bandwagon as you except my bike runs pretty lean on factory maps.
Yeah! The bike runs fine. The throttle is just alittle choppy (on/off) at lower speeds and I've been told the pc can fix that kind of stuff. I really bought it to use when i get the exhaust on, I just figured if i could get my hands on a stock map then I could try it out now. I thought it would come with a map for stock, or that Power Commander would have one, but they dont. Other wise I'd have waited until i got the exhaust to buy the power commander.
You guys know how it is when you your a little kid and you get a present on christmas morning you want to play with, but it requires batteries, and your don't have any the correct size. All the stores are closed, you have to wait a day or two. Its like torture!! Its just I have this new toy sitting here and I don't want to wait a month or more to see what difference it will make.
thanks!
Have you even installed it yet? ???
No, because there isn't any point in installing it untill I get a map for it. I've hooked it up to my computer and checked the map out thats on it, but its for a stock S4. I've called power commander, FBF, and the company I bought the commander from Fuel Moto. None of them have maps for a stock S4R. I've looked at it, its going to be easy to install. Just plug and play.
At least installing it will keep you busy for now.
You can also play with the buttons richening the mix to see how it will effect the A/F in the mean time.
Also, IF it's defective, you'll have time to send it back.
yea, thats true. I just don't know much about a/f ratios and tuning. I can install it, and load maps and stuff, but I don't really know about adjusting a/f ratios.
The buttons on the faceplate are divided up into 3 sections for adjusting the map. Low, mid and high. Simply divide your entire rpm range (to red line) by 3 and you will get the ranges for each. On most of the PCIII models the adjustment steps are good for approx 2% fuel change. So each bar (light) you move up or down will add or subtract 2% fuel for the given rpm range you are working on. You need to hold down ALL 3 buttons and turn the ignition on, when you see the lights come on and stay on, release the buttons. Then momentarily press the one you want to work on, this will select that range and you can then add/subtract fuel by raising or lowering the bar (light) for each range (pressing and releasing raises, and holding lowers). Once done it is MANDATORY that you wait long enough for the unit to reset (the lights will drop to the bottom) and test by opening/closing the throttle. The lights shou;d rise and fall as the throttle is opened/closed. Once you have verified this it is safe to turn the key off.
NOTE: on some bikes the power is lost to the PCIII after a few seconds after turning the key on. This is the case on my RS (and my previous Z1000). In this case you will need to start the bike while holding down all 3 buttons and make adjustments with the bike running. Or, use the 9v adapter to power the unit without starting the bike and make the adjustments that way.
ok i understand that, i just don't understand A/F ratios, and which way to adjust it. do i make it richer or leaner??
Quote from: Jyd431 on September 08, 2008, 07:36:47 AM
ok i understand that, i just don't understand A/F ratios, and which way to adjust it. do i make it richer or leaner??
Well, by default the bikes are very lean and will get leaner if you open up the airbox etc. I would start by adding a small amount of fuel, to the area(s) that your bike doesn't run well in. As with anything, do it in steps and ride it to see how it affects the bike. But I can tell you from experience, you are running a 15:1 ratio or close to it. My RS was, before I put the Termi system and DP ecu on it. the dyno guy pretty much insisted on dialing in a 13:1 ratio. A little rich for my tastes on the low end. I made a one bar change and things are perfect.
So start by keeping things even across the board and adding one bar (up) for each range and test. Then go from there....
thanks for the advise!! I guess that will be what i'll go with untill I can get the exhaust/ tuning done!
I had talked with power commander on the phone and they said they didn't have a map for me, however they emailled me and told me to use the one for a stock bike with fbf slip ons and a stock air box. So I did. I installed it this weekend and man did it make a big difference!! THe low end power is better. Throttle response is smoother!! It didn't fit where the instructions said to put it. THey wanted it under the tank on top of the battery, but it wouldn't fit there at all, so i lengthened the ground wire and now its hiding under the seat!
thanks for all the help!!