Ducati Monster Forum

Local Clubs => DFWM => Topic started by: pipeliner1978 on September 06, 2008, 07:01:47 AM

Title: I don't know
Post by: pipeliner1978 on September 06, 2008, 07:01:47 AM
My bike is not wanting to go into neutral when I'm at stops.  When I try and ease the shifter up, it's hard and then pops to second?? Any genius' out there?  I can't handle having to hold the damn clutch in all the time........oddly it finds neutral easier when bike is turned off.
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: Kevin848 on September 06, 2008, 07:06:26 AM
Quote from: TomTomLost on September 06, 2008, 07:01:47 AM
My bike is not wanting to go into neutral when I'm at stops.  When I try and ease the shifter up, it's hard and then pops to second?? Any genius' out there?  I can't handle having to hold the damn clutch in all the time........oddly it finds neutral easier when bike is turned off.

Weird, not sure what the problem may be but the word going around is that there alot of 1098/848/696 getting stuck in gear and having to be towed in for repairs. Got this from the guy that is contracted by DNA to do all of their rode side assistance in the area. Cycle Rescue. Mark said they picked up 9 Ducs last weekend with this problem.
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: pipeliner1978 on September 06, 2008, 07:10:32 AM
Quote from: Kevin848 on September 06, 2008, 07:06:26 AM
Weird, not sure what the problem may be but the word going around is that there alot of 1098/848/696 getting stuck in gear and having to be towed in for repairs. Got this from the guy that is contracted by DNA to do all of their rode side assistance in the area. Cycle Rescue. Mark said they picked up 9 Ducs last weekend with this problem.
1098s for sale, anyone selling a gixxer 1000
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: Kevin848 on September 06, 2008, 07:13:44 AM
Quote from: TomTomLost on September 06, 2008, 07:10:32 AM
1098s for sale, anyone selling a gixxer 1000

Id give AMS a call and see if they have any insight on a known issue and see if your symptoms are similiar. You know before you get stuck out.
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: Duc L'Smart on September 06, 2008, 07:18:12 AM
I definitely recommend you having AMS take a look at your 1098s... It seems to be really slow in the corners ;D
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: pipeliner1978 on September 06, 2008, 07:22:37 AM
Quote from: Monsieur L'Smart on September 06, 2008, 07:18:12 AM
I definitely recommend you having AMS take a look at your 1098s... It seems to be really slow in the corners ;D
it is slow in the corners, but .............. nevermind I'll wait a week b4 I give you more sarcasm........
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: Duc L'Smart on September 06, 2008, 07:25:51 AM
Quote from: TomTomLost on September 06, 2008, 07:22:37 AM
nevermind I'll wait a week b4 I give you more sarcasm........

I got a 20 that says otherwise... [evil]
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: pipeliner1978 on September 06, 2008, 07:27:37 AM
Quote from: Monsieur L'Smart on September 06, 2008, 07:25:51 AM
I got a 20 that says otherwise... [evil]
I already owe you 10
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: newslacker on September 06, 2008, 08:40:45 AM
I have a hard time finding neutral at a stop. It's much, much easier while rolling. It's just starting to be broke in at 16k miles. Or maybe I'm just used to it now.
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: pipeliner1978 on September 06, 2008, 08:44:33 AM
Quote from: newslacker on September 06, 2008, 08:40:45 AM
I have a hard time finding neutral at a stop. It's much, much easier while rolling. It's just starting to be broke in at 16k miles. Or maybe I'm just used to it now.
just one more reason I'm thinking about upgrading to a gixxer.
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: fastwin on September 06, 2008, 08:54:52 AM
Peter at ML mentioned the other day that there seems to be a problem with 1098s having their gearboxs lock up. I believe he said they get stuck in 2nd and won't budge. Shifter pawl trouble maybe??

My 916 is a little funny with neutral. Nothing major, just touchy. What always works is when coming to a stop I find neutral while I'm still rolling before the wheels stop turning. It makes it happy that way. If it's happy then I'm happy. And yes, holding the clutch in on a Ducati at a long traffic light is an isometric exercise I don't need or want. :P
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: Kevin848 on September 06, 2008, 09:12:35 AM
Quote from: fastwin on September 06, 2008, 08:54:52 AM
Peter at ML mentioned the other day that there seems to be a problem with 1098s having their gearboxs lock up. I believe he said they get stuck in 2nd and won't budge. Shifter pawl trouble maybe??

My 916 is a little funny with neutral. Nothing major, just touchy. What always works is when coming to a stop I find neutral while I'm still rolling before the wheels stop turning. It makes it happy that way. If it's happy then I'm happy. And yes, holding the clutch in on a Ducati at a long traffic light is an isometric exercise I don't need or want. :P

+1, I go in neutral while rolling to the stop
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on September 06, 2008, 09:16:28 AM
Quote from: fastwin on September 06, 2008, 08:54:52 AM
What always works is when coming to a stop I find neutral while I'm still rolling before the wheels stop turning. It makes it happy that way.

+1
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: Bonwilder on September 06, 2008, 09:18:08 AM
Quote from: Kevin848 on September 06, 2008, 09:12:35 AM
+1, I go in neutral while rolling to the stop

I do this also, but I don't let out on the clutch until stopped or nearly there because the light has shown neutral before and it wasn't really in neutral....that happened on old sc.  Then I had to re-cycle to get bike to start again.  :P
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: pipeliner1978 on September 06, 2008, 09:19:25 AM
Quote from: Kevin848 on September 06, 2008, 09:12:35 AM
+1, I go in neutral while rolling to the stop
yeah, I always do that too, but lately I cant find it then either???
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: pipeliner1978 on September 06, 2008, 09:21:00 AM
I called AMS Alvaredo, and their obvious answer was no, it's not common, and bring it to them.  Looks like it will be there Tuesday. :P
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: Bonwilder on September 06, 2008, 10:33:46 AM
Quote from: TomTomLost on September 06, 2008, 09:21:00 AM
I called AMS Alvaredo, and their obvious answer was no, it's not common, and bring it to them.  Looks like it will be there Tuesday. :P

What time on Tues??  You know I don't get out of school til 5 and prob won't be home til 6, if you need a ride home.  Also, I can come straight there and get you, but I'll be on the bike so you'll have to ride b*tch and work around the backpack!    [laugh] [laugh]
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: pipeliner1978 on September 06, 2008, 10:36:25 AM
Quote from: Bonwilder on September 06, 2008, 10:33:46 AM
What time on Tues??  You know I don't get out of school til 5 and prob won't be home til 6, if you need a ride home.  Also, I can come straight there and get you, but I'll be on the bike so you'll have to ride b*tch and work around the backpack!    [laugh] [laugh]
It will be when they open, I'll have my "people" take care of it.  If you still want to help, have your people call my people. 
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: Bonwilder on September 06, 2008, 10:38:16 AM
Quote from: TomTomLost on September 06, 2008, 10:36:25 AM
It will be when they open, I'll have my "people" take care of it.  If you still want to help, have your people call my people. 

make the beast with two backs your people!  I am your people.  You're ridin pregnant dog, pregnant dog!  [laugh]
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: pipeliner1978 on September 06, 2008, 10:40:40 AM
Quote from: Bonwilder on September 06, 2008, 10:38:16 AM
make the beast with two backs your people!  I am your people.  You're ridin pregnant dog, pregnant dog!  [laugh]
take her Red Bull away........please  [roll]
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: Bonwilder on September 06, 2008, 10:47:17 AM
Quote from: TomTomLost on September 06, 2008, 10:40:40 AM
take her Red Bull away........please  [roll]
(http://www.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sign/sign0094.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-scared-smileys.php)
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: RichD on September 06, 2008, 11:36:40 AM
Quote from: TomTomLost on September 06, 2008, 07:01:47 AM
My bike is not wanting to go into neutral when I'm at stops.  When I try and ease the shifter up, it's hard and then pops to second?? Any genius' out there?  I can't handle having to hold the damn clutch in all the time........oddly it finds neutral easier when bike is turned off.

Your clutch is dragging.
Probably air in the hydraulics, but could be warped clutch plates (we don't know how/if it was abused in its prior ownership).

I'll give you a call in a little bit.

[thumbsup]
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: Ronr on September 06, 2008, 01:25:35 PM
I agree with Rich.  I think you need to bleed your clutch.

I never had any problem with my clutch.  (I used to have a 1098S)  Then, I started having the problem you're describing.

I bled the clutch, and it went back to good as new.  The stock hydraulic slave cylinders on the Ducs seem to ingest air over time.  One solution is an aftermarket slave cylinder.  Much lighter pull (30%) and supposed to be more reliable.  That's a subject for another thread.

Go bleed your clutch!
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on September 06, 2008, 02:08:50 PM
and it's cheap/easy to do.
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: Slag on September 06, 2008, 02:37:11 PM
Quote from: ♣ McKraut ♣ on September 06, 2008, 02:08:50 PM
and it's cheap/easy to do.

Reminds me of a college girlfriend or two   [bang]
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: RichD on September 06, 2008, 02:50:16 PM
Quote from: Ronr on September 06, 2008, 01:25:35 PM...Go bleed your clutch!

Showed him how... DONE!

Seems all better.   [thumbsup]
Hopefully it stays that way.   ;)
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: Ronr on September 06, 2008, 03:07:48 PM
Rock on!
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: pipeliner1978 on September 06, 2008, 03:12:36 PM
for all who don't know already, Rich D is the man

Thanks dude  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: pipeliner1978 on September 06, 2008, 05:02:05 PM
glad I get relearn my bike.  I just rode to the gas station and I feel like the clutch was 2 inches longer.  Wow so that's what a full clutch feels like.
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: Ronr on September 06, 2008, 05:56:56 PM
Now get your suspension set up and you'll forget all about those ratty suzukis!
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: fastwin on September 06, 2008, 06:27:49 PM
Hey!! I resemble that remark! [laugh] Working clutches do make all the difference. Want a totally f'ed up, stone axe tech, STM/EVR slipper off the 916SPS? Makes a really cool paperweight. ;D
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on September 06, 2008, 07:06:14 PM
man...for that kind of service i think richD should get a peek at the bon's b00bs or somethig...

i'm just sayin'...    [bacon]
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: pipeliner1978 on September 06, 2008, 07:10:29 PM
Quote from: ♣ McKraut ♣ on September 06, 2008, 07:06:14 PM
man...for that kind of service i think richD should get a peek at the bon's b00bs or somethig...

i'm just sayin'...    [bacon]
what makes you think you're the only one that's seen them?

I'm just saying
[popcorn]

Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: pipeliner1978 on September 06, 2008, 07:30:08 PM
FYI the whole neutral thing......  is gooood now
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on September 06, 2008, 07:40:22 PM
i was just throwin that out there...i like to hook that guy up whenever possible... 

and b00bies never get old.  well, you know what i mean   [thumbsup]
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: Kevin848 on September 08, 2008, 12:44:43 AM
Glad you got that clutch worked out Tommy. Is there anything RichD cant do?

And just so this thread continues to veer off course... Strippers [thumbsup]
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: Bonwilder on September 08, 2008, 06:03:44 AM
You guys are so easy to please and entertain!!! [laugh] [laugh] [popcorn]
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: pipeliner1978 on September 08, 2008, 06:07:57 AM
Quote from: Bonwilder on September 08, 2008, 06:03:44 AM
You guys are so easy to please and entertain!!! [laugh] [laugh] [popcorn]
yeah, but you can keep trying anyways....... [thumbsup]
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: Kevin848 on September 08, 2008, 06:09:50 AM
Quote from: Bonwilder on September 08, 2008, 06:03:44 AM
You guys are so easy to please and entertain!!! [laugh] [laugh] [popcorn]

I think thats all men in general? I mean, b00bies could possibly cure all that is wrong with mankind. Well except for hippies.  [laugh]
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: pipeliner1978 on September 08, 2008, 06:12:17 AM
Quote from: Kevin848 on September 08, 2008, 06:09:50 AM
I think thats all men in general? I mean, b00bies could possibly cure all that is wrong with mankind. Well except for hippies.  [laugh]
no, but a razor can cure them, I mean I like the music, their smoke, and their art........mut there are a few places they could shave.......I'm just sayin
Title: Re: I don't know
Post by: LYD on September 10, 2008, 12:37:15 AM
boobies = fun!! ;D