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Title: Another child prodigy
Post by: Monsterlover on September 13, 2008, 08:43:35 PM
Damn this kid is fast.

And he's 11.

And his bike makes 22hp and tops out at 90mph.

He's absolutely schooling other riders with it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU6xrs7SOCc&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gkf_2m6MZ88
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: kopfjäger on September 13, 2008, 08:49:13 PM
Awesome.   [thumbsup]  I love watching people who think they can ride get schooled.  ;D
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: Monsterlover on September 13, 2008, 08:49:45 PM
;D  I know!
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: NAKID on September 13, 2008, 09:13:52 PM
I wish I could ride 1/4 as good as that kid!
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: ROBsS4R on September 13, 2008, 09:16:43 PM
Quote from: NAKID on September 13, 2008, 09:13:52 PM
I wish I could ride 1/4 as good as that kid!

I keep telling myself I want to get my ass to the track for the first time and when I do just pick up a Ninja 250 and learn the crap out of it and dont even think about getting anything larger for a long time.
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: sbrguy on September 13, 2008, 09:42:32 PM
ok, well its obvious the kid has mad skills, it will be interesting to see if the kid moves up the ranks in teh coming years and makes it to motogp.  that would be pretty cool
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: CairnsDuc on September 14, 2008, 01:06:17 AM
Quote from: NAKID on September 13, 2008, 09:13:52 PM
I wish I could ride 1/4 as good as that kid!

Bugger that, If I could be a tenth as good as this kid I'd be happy!

Good on him, the kid has some damn fine skills!
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: Monsterlover on September 14, 2008, 05:17:54 AM
Here are three more good ones.  He's completely owning all the other riders.  It's like he's out there alone  :o :o

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FyvzWnNnBgU&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xI7hGPJDF3g&feature=related

And kicking ass on a tiny KTM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6hlD7sRqbc&feature=related
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: ducatiz on September 14, 2008, 05:21:01 AM
the next Casey Stoner..

he is a natural, i wonder if his parents ride (of course they do, who else would let their 10yo kid do that?)
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: Greg on September 14, 2008, 11:17:07 AM
Quote from: Monsterlover on September 13, 2008, 08:43:35 PM
Damn this kid is fast.

And he's 11.

And his bike makes 22hp and tops out at 90mph.

He's absolutely schooling other riders with it.

The kid is very talented, but I'd like to point out that a couple of things.

1) Many of those other riders seem to be taking things very slowly, maybe they were novices, just circulating the

track to learn the layout and corners.

2) There is a big  advantage in riding a smaller lighter bike. Direction changes are a lot easier due to lower

inertia, and the weight is closer to the ground, not to mention less weight for the tires to hold onto.

3) So his bike only makes 22hp, that too can be a huge advanatge as you worry a lot less about spinning or sliding

when snapping the throttle open.

I looked up the specs on the bike and found that it only weighs 160 pounds, add another 70 for the rider and you're looking at a combined weight of 230 pounds. Some of other riders in that video looked like they might have been closing in on 230 WITHOUT their bike.

Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: derby on September 14, 2008, 11:34:51 AM
here's the kid:

http://peterlenz.com/

there are some more videos of him on that site.

Quote from: SA_S2R on September 14, 2008, 11:17:07 AM

The kid is very talented, but I'd like to point out that a couple of things.


i wouldn't say that a video is truly indicative of his speed compared to the other riders on track*. but will, the camera man, is VERY fast on that track and said the kid is fast as hell.

i expect this kid to announce a pro ride in the next 4-5 years.

*it's a california superbike school class. who knows what lesson the other guys are doing.
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: kopfjäger on September 14, 2008, 11:56:35 AM
Quote from: SA_S2R on September 14, 2008, 11:17:07 AM

2) There is a big  advantage in riding a smaller lighter bike. Direction changes are a lot easier due to lower

inertia, and the weight is closer to the ground, not to mention less weight for the tires to hold onto.





Thanks for that info.  [popcorn]
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: Raux on September 14, 2008, 01:19:07 PM
i think what would help put a better persepctive on his speed is knowing what bike is following him, and being able to see the speedo.

it didn't sound too small of a bike and he only backed off the throttle on long straights from i heard.
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: derby on September 14, 2008, 01:47:14 PM
Quote from: Raux on September 14, 2008, 01:19:07 PM
i think what would help put a better persepctive on his speed is knowing what bike is following him, and being able to see the speedo.

it didn't sound too small of a bike and he only backed off the throttle on long straights from i heard.

given the location, i'd be really surprised if it wasn't a kawasaki zx6.

i can find out, if you want. one of my buddies knows will.

...or you can ask misti (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=2225).
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: Raux on September 14, 2008, 04:34:04 PM
from my perspective... the kid's a prorider... but that's because i'm a schmuck rider and really can't tell you if he's doing it right or not.

but i think knowing more about the bike behind and getting some corner speeds and the like from a speedo on the camera might tell some of you track riders how well he's doing.
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: Spidey on September 14, 2008, 04:54:13 PM
Corner speeds aren't going to tell you anything unless you know the track.  Also, you'd be surprised at how low the corner speeds are on even the MotoGP bikes.  It's how fast they go from entry to apex and then how fast they get from the apex to straight up-n-down that is mindboggling.

I *hate* fast pre-teens on 2-strokes.  They're fearless, blazing fast, and always blow by ya like you're standing still.  It's f'n embarassing.  If one ever comes by me slow enough for me to react before they take off into the distance, I'm gonna kick that 4th grader right off his bike.   [evil]

I keed, I keed.  Kinda.
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: Grampa on September 15, 2008, 10:58:43 AM
spidey hates it where they are taller too [laugh]
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: misti on September 16, 2008, 10:04:06 AM
Here are a few specs on young Peter.  He is blazing fast!!!  His dad rides and used to race and is pretty darned fast too, though Peter is now faster (sorry Mike  [laugh]) .  I've been coaching Peter the last two years with the Superbike School.  First we private coached him on smaller go-cart tracks as he was too young to ride the big tracks.  This year we started coaching him on the bigger tracks.   For anyone who knows times at Streets of Willow Springs, this kid can do a 1:25.8.  My best so far, from the CODE Race School was a 1:23.0 on a Stock Kawasaki 600. Peter did a 1:25 after only a few visits to the track.  I have a freekin hard time keeping up to him when I'm working with him and need the 600 to close the gap on the straights. 

He will be coming to the next series of California Superbike Schools at the Streets and I'm sure I'll have to work my butt off again!  The more we coach him and the more he races the faster he gets.  He could be right up there with the Red Bull Rookies Cup kids if he were old enough.  Watch for him in a few years, this kids got skillz.

Misti
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: derby on September 16, 2008, 10:29:54 AM
Quote from: misti on September 16, 2008, 10:04:06 AM

Misti


i figured you'd be along sooner or later to give some opinion.  ;D
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: slyfox on September 17, 2008, 09:52:57 PM
QuoteAfter four days of coaching, Peter's lap times dropped into the 1:28s which is about six seconds off documented 125GP lap times. Rather impressive when you take into account Peter was riding an 85GP class Honda RSF150R (an RS125 with an CRF150R powerplant) and the 22 horsepower motor had to take on the infamous Willow Springs winds.
WOW .... maybe we'll be seeing him in the 125cc race(motoGP) in the year 2012, yes.......
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: ducpenguin on September 18, 2008, 08:29:22 AM
I don't care what his weight/bike power is...Have you ever had to lift your elbow so it didn't grind?  Great skills!
Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: Greg on September 18, 2008, 04:15:03 PM
Quote from: ducpenguin on September 18, 2008, 08:29:22 AM
I don't care what his weight/bike power is...Have you ever had to lift your elbow so it didn't grind?  Great skills!

Well it's more of a problem when your bike is a lot smaller and closer to the ground.
He's still got great skills but physics is on his side the same way it is with small young girls in gymnastics.

Title: Re: Another child prodigy
Post by: Jarvicious on September 18, 2008, 06:24:28 PM
"Peter doesn't like maynoaise"

Aaaaaaahahahahahahaha ;D