If you feel like being childish and are bored, go to DML and give a five star rating to every thread.
I've started in the general monster forum. Now I'm passing the torch. Get busy.
I just saw that.
I was wondering if someone was up to something. be::
If you're going to do it, do it right. It's about signal to noise. You need to make noise.
Resurrect old threads. Put things like "any more info" "Can I do that to my bike" etc. Make it impossible to figure out real posts from the noise, push any new content to 2-3 pages back. That way new threads don't get attention. Site becomes less useful.
" Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,"
-- William Butler Yeats, "The Second Coming"
Quote from: ADG on May 08, 2008, 09:56:38 PM
If you feel like being childish and are bored, go to DML and give a five star rating to every thread.
I've started in the general monster forum. Now I'm passing the torch. Get busy.
How about resurrecting old threads that deserve to remain dead by spamming recommendations to visit this site, in some manner that the automatic tools can't detect. Then note how many you were able to make before you got banned from the forum. Go out in a blaze of glory! :e:v
Post your "count before being banned" number here afterwards.
Quote from: ScottRNelson on May 09, 2008, 05:47:04 AM
How about resurrecting old threads that deserve to remain dead by spamming recommendations to visit this site, in some manner that the automatic tools can't detect. Then note how many you were able to make before you got banned from the forum. Go out in a blaze of glory! :e:v
Post your "count before being banned" number here afterwards.
How about this? I wield my mod powers, which I still have over there (for now), to undelete every thread and post that's gotten the axe in the last week. :e:v
Quote from: ADG on May 08, 2008, 09:56:38 PM
If you feel like being childish and are bored, go to DML and give a five star rating to every thread.
I've started in the general monster forum. Now I'm passing the torch. Get busy.
I just read the mod thread over there. Spanky is all proud of himself for banning you. That dude must have a tiny p@#$s to get such a thrill outta that. r:e)
I don't think they care. It's not like the owners ride, so content is no big deal, just statistics to sell ad space.
Their new Mods might care, but that doesn't bother the owners one bit.
It's on autopilot.
if you want to stir up old posts do not spam the dmf url, they willl just delete your post and return the thread to where it belongs. if you just reply to it they *should* just leave it
Or to be cute about it just find old threads and type "opps! wrong thread sorry"
Quote from: Rameses on May 09, 2008, 06:43:21 AM
How about this? I wield my mod powers, which I still have over there (for now), to undelete every thread and post that's gotten the axe in the last week. :e:v
as a mod, can you ban their new mods? :e:v
Quote from: Latinbalar on May 09, 2008, 07:13:11 AM
Or to be cute about it just find old threads and type "opps! wrong thread sorry"
wt:
how about stirring up old threads you participated in and posting that you found a grammatical error in your post but can't figure out how to edit it ;:|
i was trying to figure out a way to be a thorn in their side, but all i can come up with is deleting whole threads.
i was debating the whole bringing up old posts and such. i thought about it a bit longer and realized the best way to get them is to just let the board die. if post count drops then they lose leverage with sponsors. i realize they have a large "network" of forums so the sponsors woin't leave entirely, but jut let what they bought wither and die by their own hands.
be sneaky about doing anything, like when someone posts respond in a pm with directions that will avoid the bots to bring them here or elsewhere.
I was actually able to edit some of my old posts this morning. I think they re-enabled edit.
or
just move on
no reason to go back to a sinking ship to plant more charges
it is over
it is dead
and we are here
let that anger and frustration go
Keep in mind every time you go back there it is another hit. That gives them numbers as a sales tool and keeps them in a top position on search engines which means even more hits.
Yeah, I know, I've been back there out of curiosity.
Agreed. I only removed a couple of picture links. I think that is reasonable.
Quote from: Le Pirate on May 09, 2008, 07:13:48 AM
as a mod, can you ban their new mods? :e:v
No, out of curiosity I checked to see if I could hand out demerits to their admins and that wasn't an option either.
I wouldn't actually have done anything, even make the beast with two backsing with the deleted posts. That's not the kind of person I am.
But while poking around and reading stuff that had happened since I was last there (I hadn't logged in over there since Feb.) one of them must've seen me logged in and said "who the hell is that?" b/c my mod status disappeared.
So I drafted a quick goodbye and don't plan to ever visit again.
well, they just deleted my signature and when I went into my control panel, I no longer have the capability of adding a signature so I'm probably on the way out of there.
Quote from: Mother on May 09, 2008, 07:40:23 AM
or
just move on
no reason to go back to a sinking ship to plant more charges
it is over
it is dead
and we are here
let that anger and frustration go
+11ty billion
You all realize that every time you click over there you are perpetuating the corporate coffers....right?
Do what you want.
I'll stay here.
Quote from: Statler on May 09, 2008, 07:07:17 AM
I don't think they care. It's not like the owners ride, so content is no big deal, just statistics to sell ad space.
Their new Mods might care, but that doesn't bother the owners one bit.
It's on autopilot.
+1 to a lot of above comments
The less traffic the worse off they will be.
If you really feel the need to "do something" answer all posts inaccurately (Q: my bike won't start, help. A: check the tire pressure.) or with I don't know.
Kinda what I was thinking. Right now, they're really needing as much activity as they can get. Probably why they lifted a bunch of old bans ~
JM
They're filtering tinyurl.com now
;:| ;:| ;:|
I didn't think it'd take long ~
JM
Me either but it's kind of amusing because people use that feature for long ebay links & stuff. They're really being ridiculous.
it's protecting their investment.
i have a link up on the local board we created. if people look they will find us here. i'm sure other places have done the same. if you can influence that happening then do it.
in the meantime we have the chance to relax and get back to why we all stuck around after we found the tech info we needed.
coombaya......
Quote from: EvilSteve on May 09, 2008, 08:23:47 AM
They're filtering tinyurl.com now
;:| ;:| ;:|
That's alright, if anyone wants a new one, I can setup a redirect from some dead webspace I have that will take them a while to detect. I've got tons of domains, so I could right new apache redirects all day long.
Quote from: Mother on May 09, 2008, 07:40:23 AM
or
just move on
no reason to go back to a sinking ship to plant more charges
it is over
it is dead
and we are here
let that anger and frustration go
+1
Sorry guys it's time to just let her go, I posted a fire storm of message yesterday trying to persuade people to leave, and a couple days ago they banned about 6 aliases and proxies attempting to inform users where everyone has gone... now It's done. The look and feel of the DMW is about the same as the old DML so it almost feels as if we aren't even missing a beat...
or instead of a tinyurl use this http://www.google.com/search?source=ig&hl=en&rlz=&q=ducati+monster+worldwide&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f
Good one Pak!
Personally, I wouldn't have found this place without the posts over on the old site (thanks NateDog). However seeing how sucky the old site is and how familiar this place is I say screw them and let them die their own death. Karmatic retribution is a beeyoch and they will probably have plenty of it. Me? I'll keep my plate clean.
Quote from: Mad Duc on May 09, 2008, 05:40:08 AM
" Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,"
-- William Butler Yeats, "The Second Coming"
And what rough post, its hour come round at last
Slouches toward the dml to be born?
So um . . . let's be straight, the DML is now a revenue center. It only fails is if it fails to bring in advertising dollars. The only ways you as a consumer can limit the revenue this website brings in are:
1) DO NOT VISIT THE SITE. Hits are what the people selling the ad space point to when they are trying to convince a company to give them money.
2) Contact the companies who advertise on the DML and let them know that, as long as they continue to be part of the force that destroyed a part of the moto community you enjoyed, you will not purchase product from their company. Its called a boycott and it doesn't work if companies are not made aware.
Perhaps you could say something like, oh, I don't know:
**************************************************************************************
To the Sales Department -
I am a motorcycle enthusiast and I own a [insert your bike(s)]. Recently, a part of the online motorcycle community I enjoyed was turned from a resource for motorcyclists into a profit center for a corporation. Because of this I am no longer willing to support companies who continue advertise on the website www.ducatimonster.org and I can no longer in good conscience recommend your company to my fellow riders as I believe the actions taken at www.ducatimonster.org are a detriment to the motorcycling community as a whole. Should your support of www.ducatimonster.org cease I will consider your company when deciding where to purchase motorcycle related products in the future.
Thank you for your time.
**************************************************************************************
If companies receive enough emails like this may may start spending their advertising dollars elsewhere. And you could send it to the companies who advertise on the DML such as, oh say:
sales@motowheels.com
info@denniskirk.com
rick@hotbodiesracing.com
sales@tobefast.com
sales@d2moto.com
mailto:info@cliffscyclerevolution.com
sales@speedymoto.com
Some folks make it harder to send them negative feed back:
http://www.desmoworks.com/index.php?main_page=contact_us
http://www.lubedealer.com/gviv/contact.aspx
http://www.motorcycle.com/forum/sendmessage.php
http://www.superbiketoystore.com/sport/shop.php/contact-us/i_2.html
http://www.braketech.com/contact_us.php
I clicked the links so you wouldn't have to. Copy and paste is your friend. wt:
However, you should only do this if you actually mean it. For example, I would never tell motowheels that I wouldn't buy from them for advertising on the DML. They have give me good service in the past and I think Martin is a nice guy. And I didn't even include cacyclewerks on that list because I (and everyone I know) have received nothing less than great service and Chris is a huge asset to the CA moto community. But I certainly won't try any company I'm not familiar with. Have I mentioned I love the consumer side of the free market economy? ;)
OK so who is Doc Simmons? ;:| Talk about ambushed!!! That was the nastiest link I've ever seen!!!! wt:
(http://www.fiftiesweb.com/tv/hogans-heroes-2.jpg)
anybody need a hogan's heros avatar? ;:|
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on May 09, 2008, 08:10:04 AM
+11ty billion
Same here. I'm over it and have a new home now. ;D
I have renamed all the locations on my personal site though so the How-To links that I submitted will no longer work (and if they change their links to get to the info....)
Quote from: Statler on May 09, 2008, 07:07:17 AM
I don't think they care. It's not like the owners ride, so content is no big deal, just statistics to sell ad space.
Their new Mods might care, but that doesn't bother the owners one bit.
It's on autopilot.
+1 but the "ADMIN" still won't tell us what kind of bike he rides...... HEY I GOT A POINT! ;:|
Quote from: WannaDucBad on May 09, 2008, 11:44:21 AM
OK so who is Doc Simmons? ;:| Talk about ambushed!!! That was the nastiest link I've ever seen!!!! wt:
The best part is that the admin there doesn't realize that changing the text on the link doesn't change the url that's associated with it.
Quote from: WannaDucBad on May 09, 2008, 11:44:21 AM
OK so who is Doc Simmons? ;:| Talk about ambushed!!! That was the nastiest link I've ever seen!!!! wt:
That was nasty. I think I threw up a little.
Quote from: B.Rock on May 09, 2008, 09:39:40 AM
And what rough post, its hour come round at last
Slouches toward the dml to be born?
That's actually a really good adaptation. Kudos.
Quote from: Mother on May 09, 2008, 07:40:23 AM
or
just move on
no reason to go back to a sinking ship to plant more charges
it is over
it is dead
and we are here
let that anger and frustration go
IMHO... We won already because we got our new playground and they ended up with a withering url & old memories/posts.
Let it go folks.... No need to 'Nixon' the thing...it's dead.
Not everyone can walk away so easily. The urge is strong.
Quote from: Mad Duc on May 11, 2008, 08:37:21 AM
That's actually a really good adaptation. Kudos.
Thank you, thank you. I'll be here all week. Don't forget to tip your waitress.