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Title: Why no CF wheels on GP bikes
Post by: Spidey on September 19, 2008, 04:04:19 PM
I always wondered why they don't run CF wheels on GP bikes.  I've heard some explanations, but wasn't sure what the real scoop was.  Well, straight from the horse's mouth--

Quote from: MotoLiam;4334311They're so stiff they can crack when the tires are being mounted.  The beads on the GP tires are really (REALLY) tough, because the carcasses can flex so much and deform under braking and acceleration.  If the beads aren't strong enough, I've seen tires completely spin around on the rims, too.  I've had forged Mag wheels break during installation and removal, and if you consider that CF needs to be replaced every time there's a crack or chip, then knowing that wheels take a lot of damage (rocks, bumps, etc), then you're looking at replacing a large amount of material every season (whereas Marchesini will check and repair our rims in the off-season and as necessary).  There are a couple 125/250 teams that have used CF wheels in the last years, but this is not common.  Consider that on my private team alone, we're using around 50 rims at any given time.   $$$.
Title: Re: Why no CF wheels on GP bikes
Post by: darylbowden on September 19, 2008, 04:10:31 PM
YEah, that and the fact that if you're not using marchesini, you won't be using brembo either plays into it a good deal.

Also, Red Bull Yamaha used CF wheels on their GP bike back in the days of the 500s.
Title: Re: Why no CF wheels on GP bikes
Post by: Spidey on September 19, 2008, 04:11:57 PM
Quote from: darylbowden on September 19, 2008, 04:10:31 PM
Also, Red Bull Yamaha used CF wheels on their GP bike back in the days of the 500s.

Ya know when were dat, D? 
Title: Re: Why no CF wheels on GP bikes
Post by: derby on September 19, 2008, 04:14:42 PM
Quote from: Spidey on September 19, 2008, 04:04:19 PM

Well, straight from the horse's mouth--


i'm gonna tell liam you called him a horse.  ;D
Title: Re: Why no CF wheels on GP bikes
Post by: derby on September 19, 2008, 04:14:50 PM
Quote from: Spidey on September 19, 2008, 04:11:57 PM
Ya know when were dat, D? 

http://www.bikehps.com/bst/motogp.html
Title: Re: Why no CF wheels on GP bikes
Post by: mitt on September 19, 2008, 05:35:54 PM
Quote from: derby on September 19, 2008, 04:14:50 PM
http://www.bikehps.com/bst/motogp.html

Do you supposed it really helped the Confederate hunks of junk bikes?
Title: Re: Why no CF wheels on GP bikes
Post by: derby on September 19, 2008, 05:37:00 PM
Quote from: mitt on September 19, 2008, 05:35:54 PM
Do you supposed it really helped the Confederate hunks of junk bikes?

helped 'em cost more.  ;D
Title: Re: Why no CF wheels on GP bikes
Post by: mitt on September 19, 2008, 06:00:22 PM
Quote from: derby on September 19, 2008, 05:37:00 PM
helped 'em cost more.  ;D

I liked that site until they had the turds dropped in the middle.  You should really tell them to cut them out, and keep it performance orientated.

mitt
Title: Re: Why no CF wheels on GP bikes
Post by: ducpainter on September 19, 2008, 06:51:20 PM
Quote from: darylbowden on September 19, 2008, 04:10:31 PM
YEah, that and the fact that if you're not using marchesini, you won't be using brembo either plays into it a good deal.

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Title: Re: Why no CF wheels on GP bikes
Post by: Big Troubled Bear on September 23, 2008, 03:16:03 AM
Quote from: ducpainter on September 19, 2008, 06:51:20 PM
I make the beast with two backsing hate politics....

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Title: Re: Why no CF wheels on GP bikes
Post by: tufty on September 23, 2008, 05:40:28 AM
I'd have a 140hp Hellcat with it's 120ftlbs of torque in a New York minute!!

I reckon it'd would just about keep up with a M620. :D