Wish I could do this on dry track :-[
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Sep/080919b.htm
Spectacular :o
Quote from: kopfjager on September 21, 2008, 08:11:25 PM
Spectacular :o
Ditto. Like keanu reeves said: Whoa!
I was lucky enough to see a couple races in '02 at Donington Park (but not in the rain). Beautiful course.
PS - there's traction control on today's SBK machines, yes? I 've got to believe that changes the whole game and gives the rider a lot more ability in wet conditions. It is just amazing how he's on it so hard that you see the front wheel lift.
Oh, yeah. And they must have those special suction cups on the tires, too . . . ;D
wow.
you didnt even see riding like that on the GP machine, but i guess thats becasue they punch out much more power.
thats the sickest riding on pavement ive seen, aside from supermoto.
Holy hell, dude! :o
Talk about "backing it in!"
I still have a lot of rice to eat to be able to ride like that.Amazing! [drink]
i cant even ride on a sunny day
Compared to this Guy, my riding is the Suckiest bunch of suck that ever sucked!
Very talented and very big balls! (The guy in the video, not me :-[ )
Wow! You would think he is riding super moto with all that slippage. Pretty awesome!
i must agree, thats pretty impressive
and that is why he gets paid millions to do what we pay thousands to try.
I'm riding like that right now...
...oops, I fell off my chair. My not-moving, not-in-the-rain chair. Dammit.
I think I counted 4 points on the track at which his rear wheel actually had some purchase. Impressive [thumbsup]
Quote from: JohnnyDucati on September 21, 2008, 08:28:56 PM
PS - there's traction control on today's SBK machines, yes? I 've got to believe that changes the whole game and gives the rider a lot more ability in wet conditions. It is just amazing how he's on it so hard that you see the front wheel lift.
traction control is no replacement for rider skill in the wet.
you forget that kiyonari raced the british superbike series for 4 years. he's had plenty of experience racing in the rain.
That is an amazing display of riding. Same thing with the MotoGP guys last weekend. There's not many of us that could get one of those bikes around the track in the dry in the same time it takes one of these guys in the wet. Hell, I'd probably goose the throttle once, shit myself and then spend the rest of the lap worrying about everyone noticing.
Yea, I saw what I believe was his superpole and his wet ride - both just make the beast with two backsing amazing.
Truly Slidetackular! [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
LA
Quote from: derby on September 22, 2008, 02:46:20 PM
traction control is no replacement for rider skill in the wet.
you forget that kiyonari raced the british superbike series for 4 years. he's had plenty of experience racing in the rain.
Quote from: derby on September 22, 2008, 02:46:20 PM
traction control is no replacement for rider skill in the wet.
you forget that kiyonari raced the british superbike series for 4 years. he's had plenty of experience racing in the rain.
Hey Derby,
I didn't "forget" about Kiyonari. I can't forget what I don't know!! ;D I love to watch the occasional SBK and GP race on the big screen at the bike shop, and read about it in the mags, but I confess I don't follow the season religiously. So, thanks for assuming that I knew in the first place, and thanks for the background info on the rider.
But, I do remember being at Silverstone in '02 and watching Bayliss and Edwards battle it out in the rain. Bayliss dumped it twice, but somehow got back on his bike and finished the race. Even Edwards went into the grass but managed to stay up.
I know, different track. But, the weather was really shit (cold, wet and rainy). The race was delayed maybe an hour or two. In any event, that race is forever etched into my head.
The point I was trying to make about the traction control originates from my memory of that '02 race. I believe you'll agree Edwards and Bayliss are/were on par with Kyonari, and even though that race in '02 was epic (for me), I do not remember seeing anything close to the type of riding going on in the Kyonari video.
So, no disrespect to Kyonari, I'm sure he's a great rider just to be there, but I'm just wondering out loud about how traction control influences what we see in that video. I do not remember seeing Bayliss and Edwards doing crazy shit like that under somewhat similar conditions. Maybe my memory sucks, but I believe it was more of the classic smooth & slow through the wet turns, then hammer down in the straights.
I just get the feeling watching that video that the traction control thing is at play big time.
Ok. I'm going to go hide behind my couch now while you guys hurl virtual brickbats at me.
regards,
JohnnyD