Rossi only has to finish 4th or better to win the title. which is exactly the spot Stoner was in going into Motegi last year.
Rossi: No pressure to win title in Japan (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/70761)
Prediction:
1st: Stoner
2nd: Rossi
3rd: Dovi
4th: Pedro
5th: Capi
Quote from: pennyrobber on September 22, 2008, 12:59:49 PM
Prediction:
1st: Stoner
2nd: Rossi
3rd: Dovi
4th: Pedro
5th: Capi
hmm, stoner is injured and capi hasn't gotten less than first at motegi in 4 years....
Quote from: gm2 on September 22, 2008, 03:41:32 PM
hmm, stoner is injured and capi hasn't gotten less than first at motegi in 4 years....
I don't hold a lot of hope for Stoner winning Motegi.
Capi might be up to the task...
but the Suzuki isn't IMO.
My Prediction:
Lorenzo will crash into Pedrosa who will crash into Hayden. Stoner will crash into himself. Leaving ...
1. Rossi
2. Vermeulen
3. Dovizioso
1. Rossi
2. Pedrosa
3. Dovi
[thumbsup]
1. Hopper
2. Melandri
3. West
Anyone want to give me odds?
Quote from: tufty on September 23, 2008, 05:37:54 AM
1. Hopper
2. Melandri
3. West
Anyone want to give me odds?
earthquake and a cyclone, eh?
A boy can dream can't I?
If Hayden finishes before Pedro that I will consider that a win!
Lorenz(th)o
Rossi
Cap
Quote from: gm2 on September 23, 2008, 05:40:59 AM
earthquake and a cyclone, eh?
Well, Godzilla could make a comeback.
Quote from: Speeddog on September 23, 2008, 11:29:21 AM
Well, Godzilla could make a comeback.
not if Gamera has anything to say about it.
For me, the podium places don't matter. All that matters is that all #46 needs is a lowly 4th place to clinch the
CHAMPIONSHIP
some fun facts:
Rossi on brink of MotoGP history (http://www.crash.net/motorsport/motogp/news/169468-0/rossi_on_brink_of_motogp_history.html)
1st FP results, wet track:
1. Nicky HAYDEN (Honda), Michelin, 1:59.773
2. Valentino ROSSI (Yamaha), Bridgestone, 1:59.892
3. Casey STONER (Ducati), Bridgestone, 2:00.589
4. Jorge LORENZO (Yamaha), Michelin, 2:00.696
5. Sylvain GUINTOLI (Ducati), Bridgestone, 2:00.859
6. Shinya NAKANO (Honda), Bridgestone, 2:00.996
7. Toni ELIAS (Ducati), Bridgestone, 2:01.370
8. Anthony WEST (Kawasaki), Bridgestone, 2:01.455
9. Andrea DOVIZIOSO (Honda), Michelin, 2:01.527
10. Chris VERMEULEN (Suzuki), Bridgestone, 2:01.628
11. Alex DE ANGELIS (Honda), Bridgestone, 2:01.683
12. John HOPKINS (Kawasaki), Bridgestone, 2:02.225
13. Colin EDWARDS (Yamaha), Michelin, 2:02.263
14. Marco MELANDRI (Ducati), Bridgestone, 2:02.451
15. Kousuke AKIYOSHI (Suzuki), Bridgestone, 2:02.688
16. Loris CAPIROSSI (Suzuki), Bridgestone, 2:03.235
17. Randy DE PUNIET (Honda), Michelin, 2:03.396
18. Dani PEDROSA (Honda), Bridgestone, 2:04.078
19. James TOSELAND (Yamaha), Michelin, 2:04.896
Apparently Dani's not likin' the 'stones much. [bang]
Hayden on top, and 3 ducs in the top 10. w00t!
edit------
125cc provisional pole was just a couple ticks behind Edwards. :o
And then it's a bit different when the track dries out:
Free Practice One & Two Combined Results:
1. Casey STONER (Ducati), Bridgestone, 1:48.121
2. Dani PEDROSA (Honda), Bridgestone, 1:48.194
3. Valentino ROSSI (Yamaha), Bridgestone, 1:48.510
4. Andrea DOVIZIOSO (Honda), Michelin, 1:48.770
5. Loris CAPIROSSI (Suzuki), Bridgestone, 1:48.779
6. Sylvain GUINTOLI (Ducati), Bridgestone, 1:48.794
7. Nicky HAYDEN (Honda), Michelin, 1:48.800
8. Marco MELANDRI (Ducati), Bridgestone, 1:48.945
9. Toni ELIAS (Ducati), Bridgestone, 1:48.974
10. Randy DE PUNIET (Honda), Michelin, 1:49.149
11. Shinya NAKANO (Honda), Bridgestone, 1:49.190
12. John HOPKINS (Kawasaki), Bridgestone, 1:49.197
13. Colin EDWARDS (Yamaha), Michelin, 1:49.344
14. James TOSELAND (Yamaha), Michelin, 1:49.424
15. Jorge LORENZO (Yamaha), Michelin, 1:49.505
16. Chris VERMEULEN (Suzuki), Bridgestone, 1:49.664
17. Anthony WEST (Kawasaki), Bridgestone, 1:50.131
18. Alex DE ANGELIS (Honda), Bridgestone, 1:50.158
19. Kousuke AKIYOSHI (Suzuki), Bridgestone, 1:50.879
All 4 Ducs in the top 10!
seems like a crazy idea but i wonder if elias is going to end up regretting moving back to gresini.
Quoteseems like a crazy idea but i wonder if elias is going to end up regretting moving back to gresini
After making progress throughout the season on the Duc it could seem that way, but I tend to think he'll be closer to the front on the Honda. I think its just an easier bike to get along with, despite his progress.
Quote from: pennyrobber on September 22, 2008, 12:59:49 PM
Prediction:
1st: Stoner
2nd: Rossi
3rd: Dovi
4th: Pedro
5th: Capi
Ha ha. As of the first 2 practices I am only off by shifting Pedro to 2nd.
Jorge, Stoner, Hayden
Front ROW [thumbsup]
QuoteAustralia's defending world champion Casey Stoner blamed an insect for costing him pole position in the Japanese Grand Prix Saturday
:P
qualy times
1. Jorge Lorenzo SPA Fiat Yamaha Team (M) 1min 45.543 secs
2. Casey Stoner AUS Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 45.831 secs
3. Nicky Hayden USA Repsol Honda Team (M) 1min 45.971 secs
4. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team (B) 1min 46.060 secs
5. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team (B) 1min 46.303 secs
6. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 46.450 secs
7. Colin Edwards USA Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 46.496 secs
8. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP (M) 1min 46.554 secs
9. Shinya Nakano JPN San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 46.616 secs
10. James Toseland GBR Tech 3 Yamaha (M) 1min 46.863 secs
11. John Hopkins USA Kawasaki Racing Team (B) 1min 46.888 secs
12. Chris Vermeulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 46.904 secs
13. Andrea Dovizioso ITA JiR Team Scot MotoGP (M) 1min 46.907 secs
14. Toni Elias SPA Alice Team (B) 1min 46.958 secs
15. Sylvain Guintoli FRA Alice Team (B) 1min 47.400 secs
16. Marco Melandri ITA Ducati Marlboro Team (B) 1min 47.475 secs
17. Anthony West AUS Kawasaki Racing Team (B) 1min 47.669 secs
18. Alex de Angelis RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini (B) 1min 47.680 secs
19. Kousuke Akiyoshi JPN Rizla Suzuki MotoGP (B) 1min 48.671 secs
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2008/Rossi+tops+final+session+before+date+with+destiny
Quote1. Valentino Rossi Yamaha (B) 1:47.263
2. Dani Pedrosa Honda (B) 1:47.587 + 0.324
3. Casey Stoner Ducati (B) 1:47.913 + 0.650
4. Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha (M) 1:48.142 + 0.879
5. John Hopkins Kawasaki (B) 1:48.175 + 0.912
6. Colin Edwards Yamaha (M) 1:48.204 + 0.941
7. Shinya Nakano Honda (B) 1:48.254 + 0.991
8. Marco Melandri Ducati (B) 1:48.383 + 1.120
9. Nicky Hayden Honda (M) 1:48.423 + 1.160
10. Andrea Dovizioso Honda (M) 1:48.495 + 1.232
11. Chris Vermeulen Suzuki (B) 1:48.496 + 1.233
12. Sylvain Guintoli Ducati (B) 1:48.600 + 1.337
13. Loris Capirossi Suzuki (B) 1:48.626 + 1.363
14. James Toseland Yamaha (M) 1:48.847 + 1.584
15. Alex de Angelis Honda (B) 1:49.023 + 1.760
16. Randy de Puniet Honda (M) 1:49.027 + 1.764
17. Anthony West Kawasaki (B) 1:49.710 + 2.447
18. Toni Elias Ducati (B) 1:49.859 + 2.596
19. Kousuke Akiyoshi Suzuki (B) 1:51.550 + 4.287
Warmup Times
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...and akiyoshi immediately throws ben's suzuki down. i don't even think he made it to the 3rd turn. what a waste. [roll]
SCUSATE IL RITARDO
That was awesome. Great race (well for the most part). I have no idea what the desk was all about, but I'm sure Italians are laughing their asses off.
Casey looked very genuine in his congratulations to Rossi, so that was nice to see.
Also, be sure to watch the 250s tomorrow as well, it was a hell of a race.
Quote from: derby on September 27, 2008, 11:01:02 PM
SCUSATE IL RITARDO
No Problemo Vale!!! [beer] [beer] [beer]
Quote from: derby on September 27, 2008, 11:01:02 PM
SCUSATE IL RITARDO
When I first saw that, I thought it meant "excuse me retard." That would've been hilarious, but I don't think Casey would've liked it too much. ;)
Quote from: darylbowden on September 27, 2008, 11:08:50 PM
That was awesome. Great race (well for the most part). I have no idea what the desk was all about, but I'm sure Italians are laughing their asses off.
Casey looked very genuine in his congratulations to Rossi, so that was nice to see.
Also, be sure to watch the 250s tomorrow as well, it was a hell of a race.
I think he had to pay a fine because he was 2 years behind...
SCUSATE IL RITARDO means "sorry for the delay.."
Quote from: darylbowden on September 27, 2008, 11:08:50 PM
Also, be sure to watch the 250s tomorrow as well, it was a hell of a race.
125s, too.
that may have been him becoming the mayor of tavullia.
fantastic race :D. was that the last track left he hadn't won on?
stoner re-apologized to pedro once the race was over.. good on 'im.
+1 on those total morons @ suzuki.
Blah....
the race was more of the same up front.
Hayden getting out early only to let 4 riders by. He doesn't even look like he is trying. [bang] I hope he steps it up next year on the Duc.
oh-hum fight between Rossi/Stoner, and then Rossi just runs away.
Rossi was consistantly off the brakes and on the throtle before Stoner.
Stoner's too polite. He should just let Pedro deal with his close pass.
QuoteStoner's too polite. He should just let Pedro deal with his close pass.
He has to validate his whining from Laguna and prove he's not a hard racer.
the RoSSi FaNs [clap]
(http://www.rideontwo.com/gallery/d/46829-2/FYT_080926123028720_4.JPG)
image courtesty of jim race, rideontwo.com
Good race, gratz to Rossi for another championship [clap]
That was an interesting pass attempt on Pedro by Jorge at the end.
Quote from: gm2 on September 28, 2008, 09:57:02 AM
that may have been him becoming the mayor of tavullia.
fantastic race :D. was that the last track left he hadn't won on?
stoner re-apologized to pedro once the race was over.. good on 'im.
+1 on those total morons @ suzuki.
He had already won on every track. He only needed Laguna, Indy and Misano in order to have them all. He had won at Motegi on the Honda 500 in 2001 I think.
Quote from: darylbowden on September 28, 2008, 06:37:53 PM
He had already won on every track. He only needed Laguna, Indy and Misano in order to have them all. He had won at Motegi on the Honda 500 in 2001 I think.
Motegi was the only track left that he hadn't won on a 4-stroke.
Quote from: Rameses on September 28, 2008, 08:51:18 PM
Motegi was the only track left that he hadn't won on a 4-stroke.
Isn't that basically what I just said?
Quote from: darylbowden on September 28, 2008, 08:56:54 PM
Isn't that basically what I just said?
No.
You said he had already won on every track.
And then specified what bike he was on when he won at that particular one.
I pointed out that while he had won there on that bike, it was the only course at which he had not also won on a 4-stroke.
Your statement didn't preclude the possibility that there were other tracks which had only been won on 500cc bikes as well, when in fact Rossi has now won on every track in the modern era of MotoGP.
Not to split hairs or anything. :P
...hasn't won at Balatonring. ;)
Quote from: gm2 on September 29, 2008, 09:02:45 AM
...hasn't won at Balatonring. ;)
[laugh] [laugh]
He
is tied for most wins there though. :P
Maybe it was just the feed I was watching, but the bikes seemed to be getting much more chatter on braking than usual. That course just looks soooooo fast.
Earlier on, I thought the midget was going to run away with it. You know how sometimes he just jumps out front and leaves everyone in the dust? I really thought it was going to be one of those races. Not so. Fun to watch. [moto]
I have no idea how Lorenzo kept it upright after his front tire hit the dwarf's rear. No idea. BTW, Lorenzo's body positioning is amazing. His back is perfectly parallel to the centerline of the bike.
As much as I am a huge Stoner fan, after two years of unRossi-like championship results, Rossi is back. Bravo. [clap] When the machinery is close, Rossi wins the championship. When there are tire or engine problems that take him out of a bunch of races and open the door, others win the championship.
Quote from: Spidey on September 29, 2008, 09:56:36 AM
Maybe it was just the feed I was watching, but the bikes seemed to be getting much more chatter on braking than usual. That course just looks soooooo fast.
so fast and then so slow in the corners. that place is full throttle, slam on the brakes, full throttle, slam on the brakes...
Quote from: Spidey on September 29, 2008, 09:56:36 AM
Earlier on, I thought the midget was going to run away with it. You know how sometimes he just jumps out front and leaves everyone in the dust?
that's only @ Sachsenring ;) (...and donington)
Quote from: Spidey on September 29, 2008, 09:56:36 AM
BTW, Lorenzo's body positioning is amazing. His back is perfectly parallel to the centerline of the bike.
i've noticed that too. geeky, but i really appreciate seeing someone with perfect form like that.
funny then when you see folks like bayliss or corser in comparison.. the fact that they might as well be sitting backwards on the bike doesn't seem to hinder their results.
Quote from: gm2 on September 29, 2008, 10:20:44 AM
funny then when you see folks like bayliss or corser in comparison.. the fact that they might as well be sitting backwards on the bike doesn't seem to hinder their results.
I actually really like watching Bayliss' body positioning. Week after week, it never ceases to make me laugh. I don't get how he stays upright. I love that guy.
My favorite line was from Mr. Stoner
"I was physically fatigued...so I had to drop the pace"
[laugh]
WTF was that? He was tired so that's why he didn't win? Give me a break - man up and just say "I was on the verge of crashing so I couldn't keep up"
Quote from: arai_speed on September 29, 2008, 11:30:38 AM
My favorite line was from Mr. Stoner
"I was physically fatigued...so I had to drop the pace"
[laugh]
WTF was that? He was tired so that's why he didn't win? Give me a break - man up and just say "I was on the verge of crashing so I couldn't keep up"
Being tired isn't a valid reason for not coming in 1st? You're a tough crowd!! Stoner has been pretty well beaten up this season so I think his whining is prolly valid here.
+ he STILL finished second for crying out loud, give the guy a break.
+1 He wasn't even whining. Stoner can not catch a break since Laguna.
Quote from: Stucky on September 29, 2008, 12:08:13 PM
Stoner can not catch a break since Laguna.
hasn't been that long since laguna. and he made an ass of himself there. hence over-apologizing to pedro (who apologizes to that guy?!)
Quote from: gm2 on September 29, 2008, 12:10:12 PM
hasn't been that long since laguna. and he made an ass of himself there. hence over-apologizing to pedro (who apologizes to that guy?!)
Damn! No love for Stoner.
(everyone should push Dani around tho', just because he's so small)
Quote from: tufty on September 29, 2008, 01:08:30 PM
Damn! No love for Stoner.
(everyone should push Dani around tho', just because he's so small)
I thought Stoner did a good job.
He stayed with Rossi as long as he could...like a lap or so...
and when he realized he couldn't win without risking not finishing at all he backed off and took second.
Weren't people just criticizing him for not being a smart racer and pushing too hard?
Kid can't win. ;)
(http://photos.dppi.net/palms/zimagettes/Moto/MOTO_2008_SEASON/MOTO_GP_2008/GRAND_PRIX_2008/080928_JAPAN_GP/239_ROSSI_JPG/guest_600.jpg)
(http://i36.tinypic.com/25pjypx.gif)
Best picture ever...would have been better if he had waved at Casey... [evil]
QuoteBest picture ever...would have been better if he had waved at Casey
Should have given him the finger. "You are number one!" :P
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sore winners exist too ;)
Quote from: sqweak on September 30, 2008, 05:11:19 PM
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