Hey guys and gals! I'm new to this forum ( was on the DML forum for a bit)... and it has taken me a bit to switch over to this one... but i finally did a couple days ago. The reason for the "Bummer of a first post..." is because i just wrecked my monster... Yesterday after work! Well, i'm gonna take it up to pj's today to see what's gonna happen. I'm worried the frame might be cracked. anywhoo.... i'll be around. [bang]
Dude!! So sorry to hear that! :( Are you all in one piece? Hope the damage is minimal. Looking forward to meeting you.
finally made it [thumbsup]
man im sorry about the bike, :'(
u'll have to post up the pics
damn stupid poeple...
Aww man....so sorry to hear about that. Are you ok?? Are you the one who was riding the dark last weekend and rode the crest road with us? Either way, welcome. :)
Quote from: Dusty on September 27, 2008, 11:20:09 AM
Aww man....so sorry to hear about that. Are you ok?? Are you the one who was riding the dark last weekend and rode the crest road with us? Either way, welcome. :)
Hey, thanks to all for your concern, i am (physically) ok. not a bruise or scratch or anything. I guess all that dirt bike experience has paid off in learning how to fall... haha!!
Yeah, that was me on the dark 750 that did the crest run last sunday with all you guys.
pics comming shortly of the damaged duc...
Sorry to hear about your fall. Don't despair, there are more than a couple of us around familar with rebuilding hurt bikes. ;)
ha ha! good to know!
Glad to hear you are ok, bikes can be fixed.
I went through a similar experience a little over a month ago and
my body is still reminding me.
Hope to see you riding soon.
Man sorry to hear but glad your ok.....from your dirt/duck rid'n friends from up north ..durango co
P.S I just found a pice of metal and a filter full of shavings in my dirt bike :'( dam 4 strokes I miss my 5 honey [moto]
Quote from: marsrr on September 27, 2008, 07:40:43 PM
Man sorry to hear but glad your ok.....from your dirt/duck rid'n friends from up north ..durango co
P.S I just found a pice of metal and a filter full of shavings in my dirt bike :'( dam 4 strokes I miss my 5 honey [moto]
dang, that's no good. what kind of drit bike? I have a two stroke honda with a few mods on it... pipe, reeds, piston... i dig it.
Well pj's said that it is totaled due to the steering stop being cracked. Its insured through progressive, I'm wondering what i should do now... Do i get the bike back, dont tell progressive what happened, and fix it myself, or do i have them total it out and kiss my bike good by, or to i get it totaled, and buy it back and fix it. if i buy back my totaled bike, will the title be "salvaged"? suggestions anyone? ???
Quote from: TheLos on September 28, 2008, 09:05:18 AM
Well pj's said that it is totaled due to the steering stop being cracked. Its insured through progressive, I'm wondering what i should do now... Do i get the bike back, dont tell progressive what happened, and fix it myself, or do i have them total it out and kiss my bike good by, or to i get it totaled, and buy it back and fix it. if i buy back my totaled bike, will the title be "salvaged"? suggestions anyone? ???
Done this with four bikes in the last year including my daily ride 695. You lose the warrantee, but your bike will be almost payed off to completely payed off depending on your policy. They are easy to work on, and Chris from Motored-sports in the parts section has a ton of used-gently used parts that he sells reasonably. BTW your rebuild will require labor but the frame is probably repairable..... mine was completely broke. Needed a new frame and everything. I have under $2,500 in the whole bike including the bike itself, inspections and first years insurance and registration. Good deal.
Quote from: WannaDucBad on September 28, 2008, 09:49:23 AM
Done this with four bikes in the last year including my daily ride 695. You lose the warrantee, but your bike will be almost payed off to completely payed off depending on your policy. They are easy to work on, and Chris from Motored-sports in the parts section has a ton of used-gently used parts that he sells reasonably. BTW your rebuild will require labor but the frame is probably repairable..... mine was completely broke. Needed a new frame and everything. I have under $2,500 in the whole bike including the bike itself, inspections and first years insurance and registration. Good deal.
so your suggesting to let insurance total it out, then buy it back... seems reasonable. as far as the warranty, there is none any way (its a 1999). As far as the labor... I'm a technician for MINI Cooper, so im sure i can do all the work myself, including the re-welding of the steering stop. what about the title? and what'll happen if i try to re-sell it?
My 2007 695 Monster buyback was $1130, still waiting to see what the buyback will be on my 2008. I assume it will be in the same range. The title will be salvage. I don't think the steering stop is an expensive fix at all. For me, it is a lot cheaper (depending on how much damage there is) to rebuild the bike. It helps that my son does the labor and we get the parts used through a guy here on the forum. It would be way more expensive to have the shop to do it most likely. WannaDucBad (that's my son) will chime in shortly, I'm sure, with the part guys name. I have a tank on order with him right now. Mine is cracked and we tried JB Weld as a stopgap measure. It held fine in the garage , but not in the heat on the road. WDB was concerned about the expansion characteristics not matching. Now we know. Oh well, I was desperate to ride. I may use Trent's tank till the other one comes in. Good luck Thelos. I've been through it a couple of times , as well as some of the other folks so if you have anymore insurance questions, don't hesitate to ask. We'll put our collective noodles together to try to give a coherent answer. [laugh] [laugh]
Oops! The server wouldn't take my post for some reason and I see now that WDB has long since replied. Oink!
You will have a salvage bike.... it will probably make selling it down the road a tad more difficult. Better if you can find an informed and knowledgable buyer. The resale will suffer some as it does with salvage. I guess it's a matter of what your plans are. For me I know I'll ride mine till the wheels come off so resale isn't the primary concern. Other like Zaster who is rebuilding his S4Rs, is doing it for a track bike I think. If you are worried about trade in or switching up to something larger soon then I'd recommend looking at this as an opportunity to make the move now.
unless i find a screaming deal on a used bike that i would want in the next few days, i'll probably get my current one back, and buy somthing else later on.
Quote from: TheLos on September 27, 2008, 11:23:15 PM
dang, that's no good. what kind of drit bike? I have a two stroke honda with a few mods on it... pipe, reeds, piston... i dig it.
down to a yz426 4stk thoe I prefer open class 2stk. set up dez style. riding style is all of it and all of it fast.. and smooooth (http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm40/marsrr/000_0066_2-1.jpg) I know bad pic but its all I got
Oh I did find this one which was taken on the trail behind my house ;D
(http://i292.photobucket.com/albums/mm40/marsrr/100_0158.jpg)
cool! here are two of my other toys...
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m81/carlosjm/water.jpg)
(http://i102.photobucket.com/albums/m81/carlosjm/8.jpg)
this was taken before the fmf fatty pipe, v-force reeds, wiseco piston, asv levers, and new tires were added.
Love playing with toys. Here's my other toy. Raced it for a few years. Now just play with it.
http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm203/feckert/LongTimeRide.jpg (http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm203/feckert/LongTimeRide.jpg)http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm203/feckert/AtMontessaPark2.jpg (http://i297.photobucket.com/albums/mm203/feckert/AtMontessaPark2.jpg)
those are some nice machines my last two stroke was a98 kx500 I use to race desert /worcs but not so much now I would maybe like to hook up some time and check out NM.
riding. [thumbsup]
I'm guessing the original poster is Carlos.
If so I was on the ride also and we had lunch with Ducmouse after.
I'm also glad to hear you are ok.
As I remember you had stated the bike was short on steam for the rides you like to do.
But of course money is always an issue.
It will have a salvage title and take quite a hit on later resale along with all the down time to repair.
My intent is not to be negative but just practical.
+1 well put volksrod!
Quote from: Volksrod on September 29, 2008, 08:27:33 AM
I'm guessing the original poster is Carlos.
If so I was on the ride also and we had lunch with Ducmouse after.
I'm also glad to hear you are ok.
As I remember you had stated the bike was short on steam for the rides you like to do.
But of course money is always an issue.
It will have a salvage title and take quite a hit on later resale along with all the down time to repair.
My intent is not to be negative but just practical.
Hey Doug! Yeah, i'm ok. Just bummed. I guess now is about the best excuse to get something with a bit more "umph".
Thanks for the input. I appreciate a straight shot answer, espically because this is the first time i have had to deal with this.
I'm going to wait to see what the insurance will say... I'll keep everyone up to date.
Ok, it's comming down to the wire here... I need help deciding if i buy it back and ride it forever, or do i kiss it good bye (and search for another monster this winter). I dont know what progressive will give me for total, or total with buy back... Help! [bang]
if you plan on keeping the bike, and you have the bike already paid off....keep it and mod the snot out of it.
if you plan on selling it in a year, let it go
+1 DDGM,
If you really like the bike and it's paid for that means that you are getting money from the insurance to help you make it better than before as long as you are comfortable doing most of the work yourself.
In this scenario you might even have money left over towards a future ride.
That's what I'm doing with my S4RS [thumbsup]
Three words:
Pucker Up Baby!!! :-*
FYI, for the smaller Monsters the buy back I've been seeing on average it running between 1k-2k. Quite a bit more for the 4v bikes.
Alright, i got the numbers, and i have decided to buy it back... lets just say that it was CHEAP to buy it back. Now i need some parts....
Front wheel
left rearset
exhaust (which may be taken car of already)
left side switch pack (turn sig, headlight, and horn switch)
handle bars (though now is the time to do some clip-on's)
someone that can weld my steering stop back on.
Thelos,
Contact "Motored-Sports" at 1-916-628-0963 and ask for Chris.
He should be able to help you and save you some $$.
Quote from: Zaster on October 03, 2008, 04:42:56 PM
Thelos,
Contact "Motored-Sports" at 1-916-628-0963 and ask for Chris.
He should be able to help you and save you some $$.
thanks man! i'll have to see what they can do for me.
And thanks to everyone else for all the help!
The only issue I have with Chris at motored sports is that it takes FOREVER to get parts. On the other hand, it's cheap!
ok, i am getting everything, but have yet to find a front wheel.
Does anyone know where i might be able to get one locally (or even close)? chris has one for $200... does anyone know if it can be repaired? its not cracked, just one lip of it is slightly bent. ???
If it's just bent a little take it to a wheel shop, first or a moto shop second, they can straighten a lot of them.
I recommend a big F"N hammer. [evil]
BFH is tempting... but i'm not sure if i'll stop when the wheel is done... i may take out the whole machine...
hahaha!! i'll try a wheel shop. *crosses fingers*
Actually Los... Kingbaby isn't entirely joking... at least I don't thing he is. I've used the BFH technique before but two things you want to consider.1) The surface under the rim... I recommend a clean sheet of plywood. Clean cause you don't want rocks or pebbles embedding themselves in the powder coat.2) Don't strike the rim itself with the hammer, a piece of wood struck vertically with the grain works well. A short piece of 2X2 or 4X4 works well. If you are aim challenged though have it done, it would suck to wang a hammer blow off your rim.
I was absolutely 100% joking.
Quote from: kingbaby on October 08, 2008, 02:04:34 PM
I was absolutely 100% joking.
Oh well, backyard mechanic says sometimes you gotta do what you gotta due.... ;)
haha! good 'ol shade tree mechanic... not something i'm entirely used to, i'm spoiled by working for BMW group... at least im a tech though. [thumbsup] i had a friend look at it, and he seems to think that i should just put a new tire on it, and re-balance it. it is still holding air... lol!!
i got my clip-on's in the mail today!! woot woot!
uh, I dont mind a little redneck engineering... what do we call that kingbaby? CUSTOM!
But...
holding air and holding air while you are doing 80 in a corner are two different things. I'd fix it right or get a new one personally...
good thinkin' lincoln'!! haha! i think i'm gonna get a new one from chris and motored-sports.
Quote from: ducducgooseme on October 08, 2008, 04:05:07 PM
uh, I dont mind a little redneck engineering... what do we call that kingbaby? CUSTOM!
But...
holding air and holding air while you are doing 80 in a corner are two different things. I'd fix it right or get a new one personally...
Sing with me DDGM! "Round tire on a square wheel". CUSTOM BABY !!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YWwQZp7r_8 (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1YWwQZp7r_8)
Gdamn you kingbaby...coffee all over the keyboard now. snarf! [laugh]
[coffee] that video was perfect to see first thing this morning at work! That... Was... AWESOME!!!!
Just a quick something about the bike... I had a new front brake line made yesterday here in town at a place called PECO (plant equipment company [i believe]). i had it made while i waited! and for $35 (for steele braided line) it cant be beat! if anyone needs any sort of hydraulic line, i would recommend them to this company.
focker out.
holy cow holy cow... ok. i'm making headway on the bike finally. but i am having some trouble bleeding my front brakes. i have been bleeding them for like 2+ hours... maybe im retarded, but i am an ase master certified mechanic, that does turn wrenches for a living. anyway, the clip-ons are almost done, gages mounted below the top triiple clamp, headlight lowering brackets are done with the dual headlights ready to plug, and bollt in, the wheel was fixed (by me) and i got a new front tire mounted. i got the "new" leo pipes mounted, and the new rearsets are on. i just pulled off the carbs, i'm gonna take them to work tomorrow to install the dyno-jet jet kit. i'm looking around to see what k&n filters i need, but am having some trouble. can anyone help with my brake and k&n issues?!
Call mike at PJ's.
Quote from: TheLos on April 28, 2009, 08:18:38 PM
i am having some trouble bleeding my front brakes. i have been bleeding them for like 2+ hours...
On most Ducatis the banjo fitting at the master cylinder holds an air bubble that you have to bleed. Just pressurize the system by pulling the lever, break the banjo joint with a wrench, then retighten the joint. Repeat a few times if required.
You'll want to wrap the joint in rags to keep the brake fluid off of the painted surfaces.
The alternative to this is to dismount the master cylinder and turn it so the reservoir is above the banjo fitting (fitting down) and pump it a few times. This will usually bleed the bubble into the reservoir.
This has been an issue on every Duc I've owned, and this solution has worked every time I've encountered it.
My 2 cents worth,
Cloner
ABQ, NM
Quote from: Cloner on April 28, 2009, 10:04:46 PM
On most Ducatis the banjo fitting at the master cylinder holds an air bubble that you have to bleed. Just pressurize the system by pulling the lever, break the banjo joint with a wrench, then retighten the joint. Repeat a few times if required.
You'll want to wrap the joint in rags to keep the brake fluid off of the painted surfaces.
The alternative to this is to dismount the master cylinder and turn it so the reservoir is above the banjo fitting (fitting down) and pump it a few times. This will usually bleed the bubble into the reservoir.
This has been an issue on every Duc I've owned, and this solution has worked every time I've encountered it.
My 2 cents worth,
Cloner
ABQ, NM
Yeah I had the same dealio with mine. I finally got tired of opening and closing the bleeder valve and just began to pump the lever vigorously [evil] whatever it worked and seemed to push the bubble through. No problems since.
sweet! thanks guys! i'll have to check out that top banjo bolt air bubble trick(s). unfortunately, i work 14 hour days the next three days, and i'm racing my shifter kart both days at the swms event this coming weekend... so it may be a bit before i can try any of this. i'll update before that with the re-jet situation. [thumbsup]
ok, quick update. i re-jetted the carbs, thanks to dyno jet, and got the k&n filters (pn: RU1750) but they seem to be too big. the tank wont go down all the way. i need to try it again, moving the location of the filters... but have not had the time as of yet.
Quote from: TheLos on May 08, 2009, 06:07:05 PM
ok, quick update. i re-jetted the carbs, thanks to dyno jet, and got the k&n filters (pn: RU1750) but they seem to be too big. the tank wont go down all the way. i need to try it again, moving the location of the filters... but have not had the time as of yet.
OK I give up. Of course they don't fit. Hell the cone filters "they" say fit (if anyone ever meets 'em let me know) barely, at best, will fit & flow like crap.
My recomendation (I feel like 2cent) [laugh]: If fitting the K&N's are your goal via two indipendent pods, just bend them. Or as Dusty says "field adjust". Your motor still hates them.
I dig your sense of adventure. Any of you that know me, know I have tried some combos that people said wouldn't work. Some did. Some, let's just call them life experiences.
I will tell you there will be no performance gains here...but I still think it's cool.
Quote from: kingbaby on May 08, 2009, 09:51:32 PM
OK I give up. Of course they don't fit. Hell the cone filters "they" say fit (if anyone ever meets 'em let me know) barely, at best, will fit & flow like crap.
My recomendation (I feel like 2cent) [laugh]: If fitting the K&N's are your goal via two indipendent pods, just bend them. Or as Dusty says "field adjust". Your motor still hates them.
I dig your sense of adventure. Any of you that know me, know I have tried some combos that people said wouldn't work. Some did. Some, let's just call them life experiences.
I will tell you there will be no performance gains here...but I still think it's cool.
well, if no performance gains, at least it'll be easier to tune the carbs w/o that HUGE p.o.s. airbox in the way... btw, "filed adjust"- thats awesome! i'm a (car) technician by trade, i'm going to have to use that at work for sure!! [clap]
lifes a garden, DIG IT!! <--- random, i know...
Quote from: TheLos on May 09, 2009, 09:17:06 AM
well, if no performance gains, at least it'll be easier to tune the carbs w/o that HUGE p.o.s. airbox in the way... btw, "filed adjust"- thats awesome! i'm a (car) technician by trade, i'm going to have to use that at work for sure!! [clap]
lifes a garden, DIG IT!! <--- random, i know...
That's for sure, it is a huge chunk of plastic.
Dusty said that's the phrase they would use at Intel when working on equipment & the" by the book way" just didn't cut it. Next thing ya' know "field adjust"
Nothing like taking a hammer to a 10 million dollar piece of equipment. Sounds fun [evil]
I'm actually glad I read this, I was thinking about the pods too as they look cleaner.
If you have a way to run a tube forward where there is an air chamber after the filter they tend to flow a bit better, and may give you some room. Over the years they have changed tanks, air boxes & wiring so many times I can't keep up with which models this works with.
Quote from: kingbaby on May 09, 2009, 12:32:38 PM
If you have a way to run a tube forward where there is an air chamber after the filter they tend to flow a bit better, and may give you some room. Over the years they have changed tanks, air boxes & wiring so many times I can't keep up with which models this works with.
you got any pics of this? sounds interesting...
Quote from: Scottish on May 09, 2009, 12:06:24 PM
I'm actually glad I read this, I was thinking about the pods too as they look cleaner.
There are significant advantages and disadvantages to using pod filters on most modern (rubber band era) Ducatis.
Advantages: They're smaller if you have a space problem, sometimes they flow more than stock filters (sometimes not), They're usually easier to get at for cleaning
Disadvantages: They're louder, they make the bike run like CRAP if they get wet (and if it rains they get wet), they have a smaller filter area so they blind more quickly
To me, the loudness issue is a matter of personal preference. I've put off installing a larger tank on my MH just because I like the quiet stock sound, but that's just me. However, as a practical matter, the wet issue can be a big deal. My SS misbehaves sometimes in heavy rain with a K&N filter and open airbox top, but nowhere near as badly as a friend's DB4 with pods. When the pods on the DB4 get wet it's time to pull over, because the bike refuses to run. That may not be a huge deal out here in Albuquerque, but back in Tennessee where summer afternoon storms are a season long occurrence it can be really annoying to be stranded on the roadside for a few hours unnecessarily.
Just as a refresher, what bike are you modifying?
Quote from: Cloner on May 11, 2009, 08:32:03 AM
There are significant advantages and disadvantages to using pod filters on most modern (rubber band era) Ducatis.
Advantages: They're smaller if you have a space problem, sometimes they flow more than stock filters (sometimes not), They're usually easier to get at for cleaning
Disadvantages: They're louder, they make the bike run like CRAP if they get wet (and if it rains they get wet), they have a smaller filter area so they blind more quickly
To me, the loudness issue is a matter of personal preference. I've put off installing a larger tank on my MH just because I like the quiet stock sound, but that's just me. However, as a practical matter, the wet issue can be a big deal. My SS misbehaves sometimes in heavy rain with a K&N filter and open airbox top, but nowhere near as badly as a friend's DB4 with pods. When the pods on the DB4 get wet it's time to pull over, because the bike refuses to run. That may not be a huge deal out here in Albuquerque, but back in Tennessee where summer afternoon storms are a season long occurrence it can be really annoying to be stranded on the roadside for a few hours unnecessarily.
Just as a refresher, what bike are you modifying?
I'm just always lookin' for way to spruce up my lil 695. If the pods are junk when wet I'll probably stay away from them. As much as I ride I've found myself in the rain quite often... matter of fact I enjoy riding in the rain as long as there isn't electricity in the air(lightening I don't do).
There are several discussions of the pods and their latest incarnation, the velocity stacks at Ducati.ms. Might provide some good model-specific information.
well, i flipped the position of the pod filters, and the tank now goes down all the way! (i just had to remove the little insulator on the bottom of the tank) anyway, i'm stickin to the pod filters, im not a fan of riding in the rain anyway... haha! I'm sure there will be a power gain, the stock airbox had 2 inlets that are like an inch in diameter, and since i'm not a total performance noob, i got some leo vince pipes too. more in---> more out... should be sweet. one of the motorcycle techs at the dealership i work at said that with a re-jet, pod filters (or open airbox), and pipes, that he would get about 10-15hp gain at the wheel! i'm hoping for like 5-10hp... my little M750 needs all it can get. [thumbsup]
I had a 750 with pods and arrows and I got 10 with new jets (dont do dynojet) and a pcIII mapping. Good for you!
Good luck