Is it a Ducatisti thing? Most Duc riders I see wear full leathers when riding. I have a full leather suit, another leather jacket, textile jacket, and perforated jacket. I usually don't wear the suit unless I'm on a track or going on an advanced ride. In town, I usually just wear one of the jackets and some cargo pants and riding boots. Is it some sort of Duc thing to always wear leather pants even when riding around town? Seriously, 8 out of 10 Duc riders I've seen tooling around have full leathers on.
Quote from: cgos4r on September 28, 2008, 08:31:11 AM
Is it a Ducatisti thing? Most Duc riders I see wear full leathers when riding. I have a full leather suit, another leather jacket, textile jacket, and perforated jacket. I usually don't wear the suit unless I'm on a track or going on an advanced ride. In town, I usually just wear one of the jackets and some cargo pants and riding boots. Is it some sort of Duc thing to always wear leather pants even when riding around town? Seriously, 8 out of 10 Duc riders I've seen tooling around have full leathers on.
i wear riding pants because i have seen pictures of peeps that have gone down wearing jeans,
not because i ride a ducati ;)
road rash aint pretty....
I got mesh gear for the summer and I don't even push the bike without my jacket and high boots on.
Pants just take time but I mean...the legs is what your bike will fall on...grinding flesh on asphalt smells bad.
Yes...leather or Mesh or Cordura 500 if you like your skin...always...
if you are on the ubersquids who ride without helmet, don't bother.
I agree with Ducatini. I had a very slow speed low side and my jeans didn't last a second. Since then I wear the leathers almost all of the time. I think that the perception of Ducati riders wearing their leathers stems from the fact that most of us are experienced riders that have either experienced road rash or seen it first hand.
Quote from: metallimonster on September 28, 2008, 09:40:45 AM
I agree with Ducatini. I had a very slow speed low side and my jeans didn't last a second. Since then I wear the leathers almost all of the time. I think that the perception of Ducati riders wearing their leathers stems from the fact that most of us are experienced riders that have either experienced road rash or seen it first hand.
I've been riding motorcycles for 25 years, and know all too well about the injuries associated with crashing; but really, wearing leather pants in the summer just to go to the cafe? C'mon. Again, I'm not talking about a dedicated, fast ride through the twisties, I'm talking about a cruise to the cafe or through town. Road rash or passing out in the summer time from heat exhaustion, hmmmm, I think I'll take the risk unless I'm on a full-on ride. :P
Quote from: cgos4r on September 28, 2008, 10:02:24 AM
I've been riding motorcycles for 25 years, and know all too well about the injuries associated with crashing; but really, wearing leather pants in the summer just to go to the cafe? C'mon. Again, I'm not talking about a dedicated, fast ride through the twisties, I'm talking about a cruise to the cafe or through town. Road rash or passing out in the summer time from heat exhaustion, hmmmm, I think I'll take the risk unless I'm on a full-on ride. :P
I wear full gear every time.
Do a quick search on who here has crashed in the last four months. Plenty enough have been in the city, on a short jaunt. It's a terrific place to get hit by a car.
If the ride is that short and inconsequential, I would take the car.
I agree with what's been said above.
I even sold my Joe Rocket mesh jacket earlier this year - partly because I had three jackets, mostly because I didn't feel comfortable/safe in it.
I will occasionally wear jeans (with boots, jacket, gloves, lid), if I'm headed out on a short ride, however.
Quote from: cgos4r on September 28, 2008, 08:31:11 AM
Is it a Ducatisti thing?
I think for the most part, yes. I know alot of BMW owners who are just as (smart) as Ducati owners, but I rarely see them in leather, short ride or not. I remember way back when I was a youngster, the only riders I ever saw (noticed) in leathers were on a Ducati. [popcorn]
+1 on the Joe Rocket mesh jacket. It sure was nice in the summer because it vents like crazy. It provided elbow, shoulder and back pads, but I just couldn't see the material holding up to any type of slide. If the material fails, the pads aren't gonna stay where they are supposed to. My Spidi seems solid, but a hell of a lot hotter.
Helmet, jacket, gloves, and boots are a must for me, but I am slack on the pants. Usually jeans or cargos.
For the most part, my friends are the same. If we plan a ride (most of them are on sportbikes) and one or two show up in full leathers, I know that me and my little S2R800 are in for a very rough, ass puckering, day.
It might be stereotyping a little, but I tend to judge people in full leathers by the look of their equipment. If their leathers are worn, knee sliders are worn, bike isn't glistening, and tires have wear to the edge, wear whatever you want because you need it. It's the guys with the shiny bikes, complete matching leather suit, matching helmet, and chicken strips that are bigger then mine that I tend to snicker at. I am just waiting on Karma to find me.
Quote from: cgos4r on September 28, 2008, 10:02:24 AM
wearing leather pants in the summer just to go to the cafe? C'mon. Again, I'm not talking about a dedicated, fast ride through the twisties, I'm talking about a cruise to the cafe or through town.
How do you know what that persons ride entails? I ride Angeles Crest Highway every weekend. In doing so, I have to ride through Pasadena in full leathers. To a casual observer, it looks like I'm suited up in the middle of town for no reason, but unbenounced to them, I will be in the twisties in 15 minutes. And occasionally I will stop by a cafe for a quick cup of coffee in the morning.
If your not following the rider from their house all day long, don't assume they are just putting around town. Seeing as we ride Ducati's a lot of people would be going from their homes to the canyons. They are, after all, sport bikes.
And mind you own business while your at it - this kind of stigma that is attached to wearing gear is the reason why a lot of people don't wear it. [bang]
Quote from: psycledelic on September 28, 2008, 11:22:38 AM
It's the guys with the shiny bikes, complete matching leather suit, matching helmet, and chicken strips that are bigger then mine that I tend to snicker at. I am just waiting on Karma to find me.
I've got chicken strips and still wear full leathers - what does that have to do with anything? If I go around a corner in the canyons and hit a patch of gravel, it doesn't matter if I've got those strips or if my tires look like I just ran the TT, I'm still going down.
Accidents don't discreminate! Wheter your riding fast or slow, or wheter your an expert or beginner, if you go down you will benefit by wearing leather - simple as that.
I went to the track to get rid of the chicken strip...seems there is still 1cm unused rubber left and right.
I did that in my touring pants and the full face leather fetish guys were just looking dazzled.
Two weeks i scored some Dainese Firefly pants for 23 Bucks on ebay...looking brand new.
Never ever without em.
Quote from: kopfjager on September 28, 2008, 11:17:48 AM
I think for the most part, yes. I know alot of BMW owners who are just as (smart) as Ducati owners, but I rarely see them in leather, short ride or not.
that's cause the bmw guys wear aerostitch.
commuted for many years in Florida allways in leather pants and jacket and never found it to be a huge problem. Long before I had a Duc.
Your post sounds like you aren't asking why lots of Duc riders wear so much gear as it is stating you think they're silly for doing so. You've been riding long enough to know arguments on each side. I know this site can be pretty preachy when it comes to gear, but it does surprise me to hear experienced riders giving anyone a hard time for being overdressed for any ride.
Now if you don't show up at rhodeside some evening riding in shorts I will be greatly disappointed. ;D
Leather pants literally saved my ass once. Now for me, it's ATGATT.
My accident happened less than a mile from my house.
I'm currently in the process of replacing most of my gear, pants are on the list, although I'm not sure I'll use them for commuting.
Quote from: sert duc on September 28, 2008, 11:29:31 AM
How do you know what that persons ride entails? I ride Angeles Crest Highway every weekend. In doing so, I have to ride through Pasadena in full leathers. To a casual observer, it looks like I'm suited up in the middle of town for no reason, but unbenounced to them, I will be in the twisties in 15 minutes. And occasionally I will stop by a cafe for a quick cup of coffee in the morning.
If your not following the rider from their house all day long, don't assume they are just putting around town. Seeing as we ride Ducati's a lot of people would be going from their homes to the canyons. They are, after all, sport bikes.
And mind you own business while your at it - this kind of stigma that is attached to wearing gear is the reason why a lot of people don't wear it. [bang]
First of all, chill out Dude! I never mentioned anything about other people nor did I make assumptions about their ride. The main point of my post was to discuss opinions. My comments were in response to the "Full leathers, all the time!" remarks. I just can't see sweating to death to putt down to the local cafe or to Rhodeside for that matter Statler.
As I stated previously, I have full leathers and a ton of other safety gear. I never ride without some sort of jacket, riding boots, gloves, and helmet. I rarely ride with leather pants though. That's all I'm saying. Now, for those of you (typical of forums) who like to jump to conclusions and get on your soap box, don't preach to me about how you think I'm trying to speak negatively about safety and/or gear. I was simply asking a question. That's great if you wear leathers all the time! I can't stand the squids who ride around in flip flops, shorts, and a t-shirt. It is my preference not to wear leather pants unless I'm actually going on a ride.
everyone can make their own choices,
but i think the point most are trying to make is,
riding through town is just as dangerous as tearing up the twisties.
Quote from: cgos4r on September 28, 2008, 10:02:24 AM
snip..... but really, wearing leather pants in the summer just to go to the cafe? C'mon. ...snip
of course you were talking about other people...how is your comment above not doing just that? ...your thread even started with how come so many Duc riders where so much gear... how could you not expect the full gear crowd to get their feathers ruffled? The AGATT crowd is a very sensitive type of bird. it's my thin skin that the leather protects after all. ;)
I will say so far everyone has been very nice to folks who have gone down so far on the forum. Not one I told you so yet for jeans that disintegrated. which is the way it should be...we're all adults.
Quote from: derby on September 28, 2008, 02:09:57 PM
that's cause the bmw guys wear aerostitch.
Most of which is not Leather.
Quote from: kopfjager on September 28, 2008, 03:58:47 PM
Most of which is not Leather.
true. but this is really a discussion about riders wearing full protective gear or not. it's not leather, but the aerostitch riders are still fully geared.
Personally...
I dress for the crash...
not the ride...because I do crash...not often, but often enough to have that mentality.
If I don't feel like wearing gear...
I take the cage.
Quote from: derby on September 28, 2008, 04:27:42 PM
true. but this is really a discussion about riders wearing full protective gear or not. it's not leather, but the aerostitch riders are still fully geared.
The op spoke mainly about leather. Which brings me to a thought. Do you think pro racers wear full leathers when they go for a ride? We all have seen the pics of Shumacher on his Monster in jeans an running shoes.
"true. but this is really a discussion about riders wearing full protective gear or not. it's not leather, but the aerostitch riders are still fully geared."
No Derby, this is not a discussion about riders wearing full protective gear or not. This discussion is about FULL LEATHERS as the title indicates.
You know, I didn't want to start a flaming contest. I was simply curious about why the majority of Duc riders I've seen wear full leathers, not full gear, full leathers. The other groups I've been apart of rarely wore leather pants. Everything else, just not the pants. Maybe that's becuase Ducati riders usually have the money to buy the full leather gear. Maybe it's because they are serious, responsible, adult riders (mostly). Just curious.
As you can see by the pic, yes, I do wear full leathers when I'm seriously riding. If I crash going down the road to my favorite cafe, so be it, my textile pants, riding jeans, or cargo pants will have to do the job.
Peace, I'm out.
(http://i198.photobucket.com/albums/aa66/cgocifer/100_2407.jpg)
I always wear full gear when there is a Buell in the vicinity. F'n Buells. >:( [bang]
[cheeky] [laugh]
maybe that it's because most riders who are on ducatis tend to have a little more cash flow and can usually afford full leathers.
it feels so good to ride in a t shirt and jeans, its like ahhhhhhh real nice
Motto - full gear all the time ..
That includes full face helmet, leather gloves, leather jacket with armour, boots and jeans (ardimid knees) or riding pants; Pants - leather for the track or an aggressive ride, or textiles with armour & rain zip out option.
... that being said ... if i slide I know I'll be bruised but not so scratched;
.... if i hit anything in that slide I know I'll be broken or worse.
I hope to god that I never hit anything on a bike or slide ... once was enough... with only slight damage to the bike and body.
I view the gear as part of the bike; on occasion I've riden without a peice and I feel odd and out of place on the bike.
Quote from: cgos4r on September 28, 2008, 03:29:00 PM
It is my preference not to wear leather pants unless I'm actually going on a ride.
IMO....if you're on the bike.....you're going for a ride.
Quote from: Raux on September 28, 2008, 08:01:10 PM
maybe that it's because most riders who are on ducatis tend to have a little more cash flow and can usually afford full leathers.
Speak for yourself.
I'm flat out affording even the cheapest leathers. [roll]
Quote from: Super T.I.B on September 28, 2008, 09:30:23 PM
Speak for yourself.
I'm flat out affording even the cheapest leathers. [roll]
should have explained my case, i dont have leathers. wish i did, but i do have fabric armor jacket and pants, boots, decent helmet and gloves. did i go cheap. yes, but with CE approved armor, DOT helmet and boots with hard protectors.
what i meant by most... well some of the guys on here have 2 or 3 bikes or more, one i saw has a beautiful porsche in the garage with his bike... so ducati tends to be a more affluent buyer. not all, but more.
whereas the japanese crowd, tends to draw the bargain, let's get more HP than we need but can afford it crowd and then dont have the cash flow or knowledge to buy protective stuff, let alone wear it.
i live in oklahoma. and i generalized a bit, but i see 1 out of 50 riders maybe wearing helmets. most not wearing armor. only guys riding onto the military base wear the gear because it's required. even then it's just long sleeve pants and shirts, not armor.
+1 to super tib. im super broke and i wish i could afford leather bottoms. I keep budgeting to buy shit like PCIII, or a slave clutch, but somehow that spare $400 i have sitting around ends up going to bills.
I want a 1pc leather. im waiting for the celtic suit to go on sale @ sportbike track gear for the next season.
Quote from: He Man on September 28, 2008, 09:59:39 PM
+1 to super tib. im super broke and i wish i could afford leather bottoms. I keep budgeting to buy shit like PCIII, or a slave clutch, but somehow that spare $400 i have sitting around ends up going to bills.
I want a 1pc leather. im waiting for the celtic suit to go on sale @ sportbike track gear for the next season.
I'm thinking I will have to go hunting and shoot me some kangaroos.
How many roo's would I need to make a one or two piece suit. To keep costs down, I will tell the tannery to only treat the inside of the skin and leave the fur on. ;)
used to have a kangaroo pelt in the house as a kid. kinda wierd fur, soft in one direction, prickly in the other. wonder how'd that feel if it were on the inside of the suit [roll]
Quote from: cgos4r on September 28, 2008, 08:31:11 AM
Is it a Ducatisti thing? Most Duc riders I see wear full leathers when riding. .............
Possible reasons :
1. Ducatistis have more money or richer
2. Rich Ducatistis usually has a softer skin, therefore needs more protection
Quote from: Super T.I.B on September 28, 2008, 10:05:19 PM
I'm thinking I will have to go hunting and shoot me some kangaroos.
How many roo's would I need to make a one or two piece suit.
Just shoot one bigger than you, empty out the insides, and wear it. You won't even need a tankbag if you keep the little pouch.
Quote from: Raux on September 28, 2008, 10:07:55 PM
used to have a kangaroo pelt in the house as a kid. kinda wierd fur, soft in one direction, prickly in the other. wonder how'd that feel if it were on the inside of the suit [roll]
All the MotoGP riders use kangaroo skin for their suits.
Derby could confirm?
Quote from: someguy on September 28, 2008, 10:10:17 PM
Just shoot one bigger than you, empty out the insides, and wear it. You won't even need a tankbag if you keep the little pouch.
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Quote from: Super T.I.B on September 28, 2008, 10:12:01 PM
All the MotoGP riders use kangaroo skin for their suits.
Yes coz its stronger & much lighter ...... but it will also make your piggy bank very much lighter ;D
They should have kangaroo fights to see who has the stronger skin.
I wear jeans around town and jeans when I hit the canyons. I have leather pants and a full leather suit. I have been thinking about getting a set of mesh pants for the local canyons, still thinking. I don't wear full leathers 100% of the time, I just don't.
Quote from: Raux on September 28, 2008, 10:07:55 PM
kinda wierd fur, soft in one direction, prickly in the other.
Totally off topic, but how exactly is that weird?
The vast majority of animals have hair that grows like that.
That's why snakes swallow their prey head first.
I am embarassed to say that I use Dragin Kevlar Jeans with Armor.
All my other gear is top notch though.
I really need to invest in something better for my pants.
Quote from: Rameses on September 29, 2008, 12:18:58 AM
Totally off topic, but how exactly is that weird?
The vast majority of animals have hair that grows like that.
That's why snakes swallow their prey head first.
well i guess, mind you i didn't really get to play outside with animals much as a kid. mom was a bit protective [bang]
I dunno, it takes about the same time to warm my bike up as it does to full gear on..
I wear Draggins, Leather jacket, boots and gloves if I'm just going to work or commuting. Add leather pants and back protector if I know there will be spirited riding involved..
Quote from: Super T.I.B on September 28, 2008, 10:05:19 PM
I'm thinking I will have to go hunting and shoot me some kangaroos.
How many roo's would I need to make a one or two piece suit. To keep costs down, I will tell the tannery to only treat the inside of the skin and leave the fur on. ;)
lol superTIB, flying the flag as always :)
Quote from: ROBsS4R on September 29, 2008, 03:06:53 AM
I am embarassed to say that I use Dragin Kevlar Jeans with Armor.
All my other gear is top notch though.
I really need to invest in something better for my pants.
No need to be embarassed. I wear the same or lesser pants if I'm going to a restaurant or to a cafe. I don't like walking into a place looking like a leather-clad power ranger.
As to those looking for leathers, a nice option is a two-piece suit. The jacket and pants zip together (race legal), but it leaves you the option to wear the jacket only.
Hey, that Buell was probably the most fun motorcycle I've ever owned! Once the suspension was set, it handled like an absolute dream! With some simple mods, that thing was pushing 102 hp at the rear wheels and over 85 ft/lbs of torque. I never had the fear of crashing it either because all of the components were cheap to replace and easily protected by a few crash pucks and bobbins. No maintenance either with the exception of oil/filter/brakes, that's it! Due to the low RPMs, that motor will go 100,000 miles easy. Do I wish I still had that vs. my current S4R? Sometimes, yes (when I think about the cost and time of maintenance especially), but I'd like to have both.
Yep, I'm with the "everything.. except pants" crew. I generally just wear jeans for pants, though with the weather getting colder and wetter I finally bought some textile armored pants, so I've been wearing those.
For me it's partially a cash flow problem but mostly it's a fitment problem. It's hard to find pants that fit a short skinny guy.
Quote from: Raux on September 28, 2008, 10:07:55 PM
used to have a kangaroo pelt in the house as a kid. kinda wierd fur, soft in one direction, prickly in the other. wonder how'd that feel if it were on the inside of the suit [roll]
The fur should be on the outside ;D
Quote from: optiato on September 29, 2008, 10:17:52 AM
Yep, I'm with the "everything.. except pants" crew. I generally just wear jeans for pants, though with the weather getting colder and wetter I finally bought some textile armored pants, so I've been wearing those.
For me it's partially a cash flow problem but mostly it's a fitment problem. It's hard to find pants that fit a short skinny guy.
One cheap solution is to wear knee padding, like T-Pro or Alpinestars, underneath or on top of jeans. They provide abrasion resistance to the covered areas when your jeans rip and a lot of impact protection. For example, here's the T-Pro Forcefield MX.
(http://www.johnsonleather.com/images/MTB.jpg)
^ not my legs
I've looked into things like that.. but it's a similar problem of finding some that fit well. :|
I'm not saying I can't find leathers, it's just that the companies that make the ones that fit... tend to be the very expensive ones. My textile pants work for now, I guess.
Quote from: Raux on September 28, 2008, 10:07:55 PM
used to have a kangaroo pelt in the house as a kid. kinda wierd fur, soft in one direction, prickly in the other. wonder how'd that feel if it were on the inside of the suit [roll]
I used to have one as a kid too (someone gave it as a gift to my dad). Really soft fur.
I have roo in my gloves and in my suit...... very soft leather [thumbsup]
Quote from: Spidey on September 29, 2008, 12:11:22 PM
One cheap solution is to wear knee padding, like T-Pro or Alpinestars, underneath or on top of jeans. They provide abrasion resistance to the covered areas when your jeans rip and a lot of impact protection. For example, here's the T-Pro Forcefield MX.
(http://www.johnsonleather.com/images/MTB.jpg)
Those are some fugly feet! They look like they belong to this guy:
(http://umtailgate.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2007/10/goonies_sloth_1024.jpg)
I think a Back protector is as important as wearing a Helmet.
I always have one in my leather jacket no matter where I am going [thumbsup]
They are Cheap and can be very comfortable. I actually prefere the feel with one since it supports my back on rides.
+1 on the back protector. I have a dainese that I put into my perf leather jacket. It helps with ventilation quite a bit as it keeps the jacket off my back and allows airflow. It flows almost as good as a cycle gear mesh jacket I have. I never wear the mesh jacket because it feels so flimsy. I am comfortable in my leather one as long as I am moving even in the hottest of Texas days.
Wearing full leather gear is for me like wearing my seatbelt in the car. I don't drive without my seatbelt on.
I wear an Armored , leather Jacket , either a BMW Back Protector or Dainese Wave V Safety jacket under the leather jacket . A pair of Dainese Pro Shorts under a pair of Dainese SP perfed ( in warm weather ) leather pants or Dainese Firefly or Mekong leather pants , Racing Boots and Racing long Gauntlet Gloves
Typicially my rides are 100-150 miles. But evevn if I was just going for a 10 mile ride , I would wear the same gear. Accidents can happen at any time . That's why they are called ...accidents. Dolph
I wear some sort of protective pants when I ride 99.9% of the time and always wear a jacket(along with gloves and boots), For those concerned about the Joe Rocket mesh jacket holding up I can tell you at 35 mph in a slide it did it's thing as did my mesh pants. I always ask people when you fall where do you hit first, almost every time the answer is your hands, your knees, and your face. Motorcycles are a bit different but all the same when I went down that is where I sustained a lot of damage to my gear along with my right shoulder of the mesh jacket. I preach the gospel of protective gear from experience but simply put wearing gear is a personal choice and you shouldn't judge a rider by how much or how little he elects to wear.
you really wear ALL that stuff just to ride say 2 miles to the gym and then 2 miles back?
I dont. sweats, t shirt, and helmet. if im going on a ride ride i wear boots jeans dainese jacket and helmet and gloves
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on September 30, 2008, 09:29:17 PM
you really wear ALL that stuff just to ride say 2 miles to the gym and then 2 miles back?
I dont. sweats, t shirt, and helmet. if im going on a ride ride i wear boots jeans dainese jacket and helmet and gloves
When was the last time you fell off?
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on September 30, 2008, 09:29:17 PM
you really wear ALL that stuff just to ride say 2 miles to the gym and then 2 miles back?
I dont. sweats, t shirt, and helmet. if im going on a ride ride i wear boots jeans dainese jacket and helmet and gloves
because accidents never happen 2 miles from the house [roll]
Older brothers are an awesome resource.
Inexperienced squid that he was, he borrows his friends dirt bike one summer day, wearing a t-shirt, cut-off jeans, and flip-flops (hey, you know, it gets hotter than shit in Missouri in the summer). No helmet. It was just a little "jaunt" down the road.
You guessed it - he wrecks. On the asphalt. Broken arm. 1 cracked vertebra. Good bonk on the head. Major road rash.
I got to visit him in the hospital in between my sophomore & junior year in high school. Got to see the skin grafting process (it's kind of cool, in a gross way, when it isn't you lol). He came out of it ok, thankfully, with some 'cool' scars.
He learned his lesson. I chose to learn from it, too.
I wear my gear, all the time.
part of the fun in motorcycle riding is the thrill of it. You dont see everyone wearing all this leather when riding, if you get hit by a bus I doubt that leather will protect you anyway, I wear most of my gear anyway but im not getting into moto gp gear just to go to the gym sorry thats not me. do mountain climbers wear full leathers when climbing? nope. actually some do it with no rope at all! its all part of the rush the adrenaline rush. I think most people that wear a ton of moto gp gear just to go get some coffee are posing, trust me.if your gonna wear body armour and all that gear just drive in the car instead seriously and wear your seat belt!!!
what's the difference between going down at 40 mph on a tight twisty road while your riding hard and going down at 40mph in town?
When G took the MSF course, since she had been riding pillion for many years she had lots of her own gear, and had two complete sets of leather with her. Due to peer pressure (including the instructor..booo), she wore jeans and one of her jackets. She still got shit for her "race gloves"
sure enough, she dropped the bike at a complete standstill. on her knee. right where the cupped knee armor is on the leathers which were in her truck. Knee blew up like a grapefruit and had very bad abrasions.
Now you manly men might not care about such a minor injury and that's where the trade-off comes in ...personal decision and all. G had a hell of a time with her next couple 12 hour shifts in the ER.
I think the ones who are posing are the ones who don't want to 'look' a certain way while riding. But that's fine...I'm the one who has no problem if guys just ride down to Starbucks if it's what makes them happy...not my ride.
Almost all accidents are avoidable...we can look back and see what we did wrong or what we could have done differently. Almost all double vehicle accidents are the technically the car's fault too....which is convenient...it gives us someone to blame for everything that happened to us.
Quote from: someguy on September 30, 2008, 09:33:35 PM
When was the last time you fell off?
That's a tough question to get answered around here.... ;D
My first bike so I don't have much of gear yet in the first year of my riding.. cost was a major factor so I have got this setup for now:
Alpinestars knee guards
(http://indysuperbike.com/img/Alpinestars/bkneeguards.jpg)
EVS body armour shirt with protection for back, chest, elbows, shoulders and kidney belt - covered with regular leather jacket
(http://www.mxmegastore.com/v/vspfiles/photos/EVS-BJ22-Ballistic-Jersey-2T.jpg)
Some regular motorcycle gloves and an IXS helmet.
Would like to buy a two peace leather suit next season but I am not sure if it is going to have as much protection as the body armour has for impact.
Quote from: semyhr on October 01, 2008, 06:32:00 AM
My first bike so I don't have much of gear yet in the first year of my riding.. cost was a major factor so I have got this setup for now:
Alpinestars knee guards
(http://indysuperbike.com/img/Alpinestars/bkneeguards.jpg)
EVS body armour shirt with protection for back, chest, elbows, shoulders and kidney belt - covered with regular leather jacket
(http://www.mxmegastore.com/v/vspfiles/photos/EVS-BJ22-Ballistic-Jersey-2T.jpg)
Some regular motorcycle gloves and an IXS helmet.
Would like to buy a two peace leather suit next season but I am not sure if it is going to have as much protection as the body armour has for impact.
The suit won't have the chest and back protection, most likely, but it will cover all the other areas.
Studies show that car accidents are more likely to happen close to home, I would imagine it is probably similar for motorcycle accidents.
Progressive Insurance study (2001) (http://www.chase.com/cm/cig/advice-and-planning/page/june02caraccidents.html)
QuoteProgressive asked 11,000 of its auto insurance policyholders who reported accidents in 2001 how close to home they were when the accident happened. Fifty-two percent reported they were 5 miles or less from home, and an astounding 77 percent reported they were within 15 miles of home.
Progressive says the majority of people do most of their driving near home, so if you live in an accident-prone area, insurers will assume your risk is higher.
Miles from home Percentage of accidents
1 mile or less 23 percent
2 to 5 miles 29 percent
6 to 10 miles 17 percent
11 to 15 miles 8 percent
16 to 20 miles 6 percent
More than 20 miles 17 percent
In addition:
* Accidents were more than twice as likely to take place 1 mile from home compared to 20 miles from home.
* Only 1 percent of reported accidents took place 50 miles or more from home.
* The region with the highest percentage of reported accidents occurring less than 5 miles from home was the Northeast, followed by the Midwest, West, Great Plains, Gulf, and Mid-Atlantic.
Churchill Car Insurance study (2005) (http://www.churchill.co.uk/pressReleases/13062005.htm)
QuoteA report released today revealed that a third (32 per cent) of all car accidents happen within a mile of the driver's home and a further third within five miles.
The Churchill Car Insurance* poll revealed that drivers experienced a 'switching off' syndrome on familiar roads which is a common cause of car accidents.
Journeys within a five mile radius of the home are typically made up of short trips to work, the weekly supermarket shop and taking the kids to school. The report shows that during these trips, drivers' minds are wandering, thinking about work, family or home chores.
Almost three quarters of respondents (72 per cent) admitted to paying less attention on local roads and 60 per cent said that their driving became lazy when they neared their home. Despite recognising that their driving was becoming more relaxed and erratic, a quarter of drivers believed they were unlikely to have an accident close to their neighbourhood.
I believe this is appropriate here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBgdMb3ATCc
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on September 30, 2008, 09:29:17 PM
you really wear ALL that stuff just to ride say 2 miles to the gym and then 2 miles back?
I dont. sweats, t shirt, and helmet. if im going on a ride ride i wear boots jeans dainese jacket and helmet and gloves
By the way, I agree, it seems silly to gear up to go 2 miles to the gym. I wouldn't bother either.
I'd either jog or ride a bicycle. ;)
Quote from: someguy on October 01, 2008, 07:28:21 AM
I believe this is appropriate here.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBgdMb3ATCc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z-SxHxW5xcQ&feature=related
this one makes me think, and it has a duc in it :)
Quote from: msincredible on October 01, 2008, 08:07:53 AM
By the way, I agree, it seems silly to gear up to go 2 miles to the gym. I wouldn't bother either.
I'd either jog or ride a bicycle. ;)
and all the college kids that ride vespa's all over town, should they wear moto gp gear as well? come on now.
I went down at around 35 mph 2 years ago i had my hooded sweater on jeans gloves boots and helmet
If the question was directed towards me do I wear all that to go two miles the answer is yes. If you are going to the gym you have to change pants anyway right? I wear arborwear pants with knee armor from aerostitch when I am going somewhere and don't want the heavy duty motorcycle look. But pants, gloves, jacket and a helmet take no time to put on, especially if the pants are such they don't look the power ranger part. Icon, Aerostitch, Fieldsheer, Draggin Jeans, etc all offer pants that are better than jeans, I wear the ballistic if I know I am riding all day and not going anywhere else.
Quote from: Henecton on October 02, 2008, 03:21:46 PM
If the question was directed towards me do I wear all that to go two miles the answer is yes. If you are going to the gym you have to change pants anyway right? I wear arborwear pants with knee armor from aerostitch when I am going somewhere and don't want the heavy duty motorcycle look. But pants, gloves, jacket and a helmet take no time to put on, especially if the pants are such they don't look the power ranger part. Icon, Aerostitch, Fieldsheer, Draggin Jeans, etc all offer pants that are better than jeans, I wear the ballistic if I know I am riding all day and not going anywhere else.
What is so dificult to understand folks? This whole thing was about full leathers... LEATHERS!!!! Not riding pants, not armor, etc. etc. LEATHER!!!!
Quote from: cgos4r on October 02, 2008, 08:49:21 PM
What is so dificult to understand folks? This whole thing was about full leathers... LEATHERS!!!! Not riding pants, not armor, etc. etc. LEATHER!!!!
just lock the thread if you don't want people misunderstanding the question.
Quote from: That Nice Guy Beck! on September 30, 2008, 09:29:17 PM
you really wear ALL that stuff just to ride say 2 miles to the gym and then 2 miles back?
I dont. sweats, t shirt, and helmet. if im going on a ride ride i wear boots jeans dainese jacket and helmet and gloves
It's only two miles, why bother with the helmet? [roll]
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on October 02, 2008, 08:57:50 PM
just lock the thread if you don't want people misunderstanding the question.
Thanks, didn't know I could do that! [clap]
This thing is old news and blown out of proportion, so I locked it. Maybe now it will disolve into the past. Thanks for the replies... sort of.