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Title: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: erichan8757 on September 29, 2008, 05:21:01 PM
i was just trying to start the monster,
i first start it and when the instrument is led i shut it off like right away,
cuz i was just gonna see something
then i started it again, this time it wont start now,
is it that the wire somehow burnt?
prior to that i bent the key , then i bent it back

and i use this key to start.
would it be something related to the immobilizer?

however i still hear the little sound, as you turn the key from off to on,
it'd normally have a sound,

the immobilizer light is still blinking, and i just finished riding for an hour of so,
so the battery is definitely good.

thanks for all views and replies,
i would be greatly appreciated it.
it's an emergency

thanks,
eric
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: jdubbs32584 on September 29, 2008, 05:30:14 PM
I'm really not sure of your timeline of events.

Have you tried turning hte bike all the way off (key turned all to the off position) and then turned it back on? Do the guages still sweep? Kill switch off? Tried the other key?
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on September 29, 2008, 05:48:36 PM
Do us a favor and try a different key-I'm suspicious of the bending.
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: erichan8757 on September 29, 2008, 06:37:42 PM
i went home from school, i rode for about an hour,
then i was putting on the rack system from ventura,
then i accidentally bent my key cuz the rack doesnt fit well at the seat lock position
so i kinda twist my key there, and i twist is back then i wanna see if the key is working
so i put it in the ignition , then i turn it to on position then the cluster light went on and everything seen fine
then i shut it off and try to turn on again, cuz if seems to me that i cant turn the key freely as usual,
then the bike just die, however the immobizer light is still flashing, so i assum the battery is still good.


i also try the spare black key and the red key, it's still, not starting

thanks for the reply,
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: jdubbs32584 on September 29, 2008, 06:38:35 PM
did the guages sweep when you used the spare key?
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: erichan8757 on September 29, 2008, 06:42:27 PM
NOt at all the gauge light doesnt even light up as usual
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: superjohn on September 29, 2008, 06:52:28 PM
I wonder if you triggered the immobilizer. Have you tried to go through the procedure in the manual to disable it?
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: erichan8757 on September 29, 2008, 06:57:09 PM

well i just go chek the bike and the immobilizer light is not even blinking now.
what should i do
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: superjohn on September 29, 2008, 07:18:11 PM
Drat, couldn't log on for a sec. Also, check your fuses if nothing is coming on at all.
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: erichan8757 on September 29, 2008, 07:19:47 PM
what kinda fuses>?? you mean under the fuel tank?
i am kinda new to this machanic stuff.
dun know where do start,
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: erichan8757 on September 30, 2008, 04:35:08 PM
please help me here
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: jdubbs32584 on September 30, 2008, 04:48:38 PM
Ok, to summarize, cause I'm still having a hard time understanding.

Guages are no longer sweeping.
You've tried all three keys.
You've tried resetting it with the red key and the steps outlined in your user manual.
You're still hearing something when you turn the key to on.

Are all of these correct?
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: erichan8757 on September 30, 2008, 05:02:42 PM
i heard something when the first few time trying to restart it,
but after 3 4 time attempts it disappeared,
the ducati ny told me to reprogram all the keys ,
and it didnt work too,
now the immobilizer light is not flashing and i dont hear any sound as usual
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: jdubbs32584 on September 30, 2008, 05:24:28 PM
Did you try reprogramming again?
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: superjohn on September 30, 2008, 06:25:36 PM
Did you check your fuses? right hand side below the battery? I blew a fuse when I changed out my tail light and it wouldn't start.
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: erichan8757 on September 30, 2008, 07:17:09 PM
i tried the way ducati ny told me,
red key-black key 1- black key- thing,
it's not working.
they said this should reprogram all the keys .


which fuse>? and how do i know if it's blown?

i notice there's a fuse under the tank and it's connected to the tank from both side and combine into one
this one is open-ended. i am not sure what's this though?

thanks again for all the help, you have no idea how much i appreciate it.
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: jdubbs32584 on September 30, 2008, 07:24:10 PM
Quote from: erichan8757 on September 30, 2008, 07:17:09 PM
i tried the way ducati ny told me,
red key-black key 1- black key- thing,
it's not working.
they said this should reprogram all the keys .


which fuse>? and how do i know if it's blown?

i notice there's a fuse under the tank and it's connected to the tank from both side and combine into one
this one is open-ended. i am not sure what's this though?

thanks again for all the help, you have no idea how much i appreciate it.


Ok, first of all, we don't know what Ducati NY told you. What did they tell you to do as far as reprogramming?

Second of all, do you have an owner's manual?
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: superjohn on September 30, 2008, 07:27:46 PM
Quote from: JBubble on September 30, 2008, 07:24:10 PM
Ok, first of all, we don't know what Ducati NY told you. What did they tell you to do as far as reprogramming?

Second of all, do you have an owner's manual?

Yeah, I'm really sorry. It's tough to diagnose these things just from forum posts.

One other idea is to post in you local club section and see if there's anyone local that does more hands on bike work that may come by your place and help you out in person. I know there are several guys here locally that I rely on when I'm having issues. Local contacts are some of the best things to come out of this board.
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: jdubbs32584 on September 30, 2008, 07:36:54 PM
Just wanna clarify that I'm not trying to be snappy, just trying to get a firm grasp of what's been done.

If you have an owners manual, it gives you a pic of the blown fuse as well as where the fuses are.

Quote
The main fuse box is located on the left of the battery. The fuses are accessed by removing the cover, which shows the ampere ratings and mounting locations.

Thats from my 07 S2R manual.
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: Howie on September 30, 2008, 10:12:28 PM
Start with the basics, fuses and battery.
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: erichan8757 on September 30, 2008, 11:10:42 PM
thanks guys, i will check all the fuses and battery as well,
but if the battery is dead where is the best place to purchase one that's suitable for monster 620?
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: Howie on October 01, 2008, 04:40:32 AM
Before buying a battery the old one would need to be charged and tested.  Then the charging system would need to be checked out, since, if the charging system is not working correctly you will be back to where you are now.  Do you own a multi meter or a volt meter?  Also, keep in mind, if the key is in the ignition switch for more than 15 seconds the bike won't start.

If you need to buy a proper battery and you want to buy it right away in NYC your options are limited.  Ducati NY will have them in stock, but it won't be cheap.  You could try local Yamaha dealers since some R6s use the same battery.  The Yuasa YT12B-BS AGM battery is the replacement.  Other brands are fine as long as they are AGM and spec the same.  You can also buy the battery here:
http://www.ca-cycleworks.com/shop/catalog/ducati/elec.html
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: erichan8757 on October 01, 2008, 08:00:20 AM
i went to check the fuses this morning and , i realized i burnt two fuses,
the 30 master one and the 15 pilot light , NO,tail light one,
then i replace them back up, after i 've done so,
the immobilizer light when on and start flashing,
theni try to start the engine,
but it wont start still and i went to ckek all the fuses,
this time, the 15 tali light and pilot light fuse is busted again,
then i replace it again, then it's busted onece, again.

it's constantly happening,
anyone knows what happen?
i did put a ventura rack sysytem on my bike and one of the parts that's right up against the
tail light assembly, i have the alternative all in one taillight.
thanks,
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: erichan8757 on October 01, 2008, 08:39:06 AM
-=====problem fixed=====

thanks everyone, i am so happy now,
and so glad the so many of you help me
it turn out to be the fuses that i blew
i blew two fuses and then i found out the the reason the
taillight one is busting constantly is because
when i screw the mudgauard i acccidentally squeezed the wires
and the electric current is rejected , therefore the fuse is busting

thanks superjohn,
thanks all of you
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: Howie on October 01, 2008, 10:23:23 AM
Glad to hear your bike is running again..
Title: Re: HELP,06 monster 620 wont start after turned on and off quicky
Post by: superjohn on October 01, 2008, 03:07:45 PM
very cool. I'm glad you're back out riding.

If you want to learn more about basic upkeep and whatnot, I would highly recommend the Haynes Manual for our particular bikes. You can pick it up from Amazon and they're definitely worth the money.

http://www.amazon.com/Ducati-2-valve-V-Twins-Haynes-Service/dp/1844252779/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1222898792&sr=8-3