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Title: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: svoloch on October 02, 2008, 02:55:37 PM
started this up so the weak-constitutioned folks out there don't get offended as tommy, myself, and other strong willed folks talk out the controversial issues that I am so right about...
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: bryant8 on October 02, 2008, 02:59:10 PM
Ice cream is not murder!

discuss...
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: pipeliner1978 on October 02, 2008, 06:12:12 PM
eeesshh............she started off like a robot with memorized lines
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: Slag on October 02, 2008, 06:18:58 PM
I dare not watch. I am in a foul mood already. This would just drive me to drinking  [bang]
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: svoloch on October 02, 2008, 06:22:18 PM
SLAM!!!  healthcare bridge to nowhere!!!
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: dallas2r on October 02, 2008, 06:35:56 PM
"Drill we must!"

ummm...  ;D
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: cdc on October 02, 2008, 06:45:59 PM
This could be funny if it weren't so sad.

Oh, Happy Birthday.

cdc

Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: pipeliner1978 on October 02, 2008, 07:02:52 PM
Quote from: ?? dallas2r ?? on October 02, 2008, 06:35:56 PM
"Drill we must!"

ummm...  ;D
correction, drill baby drill.....and I agree
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: fastwin on October 02, 2008, 07:07:30 PM
Quote from: cdc on October 02, 2008, 06:45:59 PM
Oh, Happy Birthday.



Yes, indeed. I'd like to second that Happy Birthday wish!! It may be a day early but what the heck!! Are you going to spend the day tomorrow test riding bikes again?? [thumbsup] [moto] [drink]
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: bryant8 on October 02, 2008, 08:38:08 PM
Debate Bingo was quite fun  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: Kevin848 on October 03, 2008, 03:56:39 AM
If eating animals is murder... why are they so damn tasty?

I think you need to start an "Ask the Svoloch" thread... you know somewhere we can go to get the answers to life the universe and everything.
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: Cyclone on October 03, 2008, 05:59:09 AM
 [drink] Loved the debate last night - every time she said " you betcha " I took a drink of scotch & was drunk for the second hour !!

Happy Birthday Svoloch  !!  You know about, and are right about government & politics but this is America dude, cute & personable trumps smart & knowledgeable every time !!!  It dosen't have to BE good it just has to LOOK good!
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: pipeliner1978 on October 03, 2008, 06:42:21 AM
Quote from: Cyclone on October 03, 2008, 05:59:09 AM
[drink] Loved the debate last night - every time she said " you betcha " I took a drink of scotch & was drunk for the second hour !!

Happy Birthday Svoloch  !!  You know about, and are right about government & politics but this is America dude, cute & personable trumps smart & knowledgeable every time !!!  It dosen't have to BE good it just has to LOOK good!
He is smart, I know I can't compete!  Man, to think the founding fathers had it all wrong.......maybe we should be "fair" and dive into socialism.  It's not like we've ever fought wars to keep from doing so.  You are right, this is America, the land of the free, but that doesn't mean everything from healthcare to retirement.  It's the land of the free, where you have the ability to work hard and and make smart decisions and have a good life.  It's not the land of the free hand out (although it's definitely moving that way).  It's the land of opportunity, where you can make your own decisions and become wealthy.  You can choose to sell cars for a living, be in a union, work for government, etc... your "class level" whether upper, middle or lower is from the decisions that you made in life.  There are people in this country who started with nothing, and are extremely wealthy, and there are people in this country who started life extremely wealthy, who have nothing now.  It's all in the choices that we make...........but what sets us apart from other countries, and why people come to this great land of opportunity, is that we have the choice. 


PS..... drill baby drill


oh, and the "gosh darns" and the "you betcha's" are extremely annoying........
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: caffeinejunkee on October 03, 2008, 07:00:09 AM
Quote from: pipeliner1978 on October 03, 2008, 06:42:21 AM
It's all in the choices that we make...........but what sets us apart from other countries, and why people come to this great land of opportunity, is that we have the choice. 

I would agree with what you say entirely if it were not for the fact that it's been clear throughout our history and to this day that the playing field for "choices" is not the same for everyone, the rules are simply different. We cannot, with a straight face, claim that everyone has the same choices and opportunity given the same level of motivation for a particular goal; it's just not so.
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: Cyclone on October 03, 2008, 07:11:31 AM
 ;D Also we have have fought wars against Monarchs, Fascists, & Communists BUT Socialists ( & Communists in WW2 ) were our allies - oops ! 

I guess this is why politics is proscribed on the Forum - everyone has a right to get this wrong !!  [laugh]
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: Kevin848 on October 03, 2008, 07:21:28 AM
Quote from: caffeinejunkee on October 03, 2008, 07:00:09 AM
I would agree with what you say entirely if it were not for the fact that it's been clear throughout our history and to this day that the playing field for "choices" is not the same for everyone, the rules are simply different. We cannot, with a straight face, claim that everyone has the same choices and opportunity given the same level of motivation for a particular goal; it's just not so.

Recanting my post as I dont think I really want to get involved with this one.
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: Cyclone on October 03, 2008, 07:28:26 AM
Quote from: Kevin848 on October 03, 2008, 07:21:28 AM
Recanting my post as I dont think I really want to get involved with this one. 

[clap]  Wisdom of the highest order !!  [clap]
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: Kevin848 on October 03, 2008, 07:32:08 AM
Quote from: Cyclone on October 03, 2008, 07:28:26 AM
[clap]  Wisdom of the highest order !!  [clap]

Thank you... thank you

You are all welcome to pencil me in on your presidential ballots.
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: Duc L'Smart on October 03, 2008, 08:06:56 AM
Quote from: Cyclone on October 03, 2008, 05:59:09 AM
[drink] Loved the debate last night - every time she said " you betcha " I took a drink of scotch & was drunk for the second hour !!

Are you sure you weren't watching "Fargo"?!?
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: ducnut on October 03, 2008, 08:28:53 AM
I didn't see a wood chipper on the stage
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: pipeliner1978 on October 03, 2008, 08:56:26 AM
Quote from: ducnut on October 03, 2008, 08:28:53 AM
I didn't see a wood chipper on the stage
I don't understand, elaborate.
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: dallas2r on October 03, 2008, 08:59:09 AM
Quote from: pipeliner1978 on October 03, 2008, 08:56:26 AM
I don't understand, elaborate.

(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v467/BankyE/fargo4.jpg)
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: pipeliner1978 on October 03, 2008, 09:07:02 AM
I know what a chipper is, but still don't get the quote
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: ducnut on October 03, 2008, 09:49:40 AM
Near the end of the movie Fargo, some thugs are seen to be sticking a human into a big wood chipping machine.  Great scene.
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: cdc on October 03, 2008, 09:53:43 AM
This is boring. Yawn!

Everyone is right and everyone is wrong. There's too much chatter.

It's like who among us is the better driver.  I am.  At least I used to be.

I call this BS (blessedly symphonic). Go vote on November 4, Whoever you want to vote for. do your civic duty.

I don't really care mind how anyone thinks politically as long as it's not being forced down my throat.  Que sera sera or something like that.  That's better. ;D

cdc

Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: Cyclone on October 03, 2008, 10:24:50 AM
OK, so on to RELIGION!!  :o

edit:  [laugh] CDC left a "what she said " that was just too easy - couldn't do it - well kinda !   [laugh]
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: ducnut on October 03, 2008, 12:02:01 PM
? talk bad about someone's momma?
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: dallas2r on October 03, 2008, 12:57:24 PM
Quote from: ducnut on October 03, 2008, 12:02:01 PM
? talk bad about someone's momma?

oh no you did'n! 
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: pipeliner1978 on October 03, 2008, 06:30:57 PM
***Disclaimer***


I 100% believe that my next post will be political and maybe even cross some peoples religious beliefs.........
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: pipeliner1978 on October 03, 2008, 06:38:39 PM
Quote from: pipeliner1978 on October 03, 2008, 06:30:57 PM
***Disclaimer***


I 100% believe that my next post will be political and maybe even cross some peoples religious beliefs.........
(http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL363/7371556/19880304/337172877.jpg)


Introducing the 2009 YZF-R1, the first ever production motorcycle with a crossplane crankshaft. Crossplane technology, first pioneered in MotoGP racing with the M1, puts each connecting rod 90° from the next, with an uneven firing interval of 270°- 180°- 90°- 180°. This all but eliminates undesirable inertial crankshaft torque, which allows the engine’s compression torque to build smoothly and provide a very linear power delivery out of the corners. It’s a feeling that’s simply unmatched, like having two engines in one: the low-rpm torquey feel of a twin with the raw, high-rpm power of an inline 4.

The R1 features Yamaha D-MODE (or drive mode) with rider-selectable throttle control maps to program YCC-T performance characteristics for riding conditions. The standard map is designed for optimum overall performance. The “A” mode lets the rider enjoy sportier engine response in the low- to mid-speed range, and the “B” mode offers response that is somewhat less sharp response for riding situations that require especially sensitive throttle operation.

The rear frame is now lightweight CF die-cast magnesium, contributing the optimum mass centralization. Suspension includes new SOQI front forks which use one of the tricks developed for our winning MotoGP bikes: independent damping. The left fork handles compression damping and the right side handles the rebound damping. And the rear shock adopts new bottom linkage for optimum suspension characteristics.

Completely new, the new model has a more serious, less busy look. The side fairing is smoother for a sleeker appearance. And, instead of the usual four bulb headlight design, the ’09 model now has only two projector-type bulbs mounted closer to the nose of the bike. This positions ram air ducts closer in for a more compact, smooth look. In addition, the rounded lenses are new and unique to the supersport industry.

Discuss.....


Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: caffeinejunkee on October 03, 2008, 06:45:00 PM
Quote from: pipeliner1978 on October 03, 2008, 06:30:57 PM

I 100% believe that my next post will be political and maybe even cross some peoples religious beliefs.........

No argument here: I do believe a ride around the track on that baby would indeed be a religious experience.  ;D  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: cdc on October 03, 2008, 07:28:15 PM
Quote from: cdc on October 03, 2008, 09:53:43 AM
This is boring. Yawn!

Everyone is right and everyone is wrong. There's too much chatter.

It's like who among us is the better driver.  I am.  At least I used to be.

I call this BS (blessedly symphonic). Go vote on November 4, Whoever you want to vote for. do your civic duty.

I don't really care mind how anyone thinks politically as long as it's not being forced down my throat.  Que sera sera or something like that.  That's better. ;D

cdc



Fixed it. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: never2loud on October 03, 2008, 07:57:42 PM
Quote from: pipeliner1978 on October 03, 2008, 06:38:39 PM
(http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL363/7371556/19880304/337172877.jpg)


Introducing the 2009 YZF-R1, the first ever production motorcycle with a crossplane crankshaft. Crossplane technology, first pioneered in MotoGP racing with the M1, puts each connecting rod 90° from the next, with an uneven firing interval of 270°- 180°- 90°- 180°. This all but eliminates undesirable inertial crankshaft torque, which allows the engine’s compression torque to build smoothly and provide a very linear power delivery out of the corners. It’s a feeling that’s simply unmatched, like having two engines in one: the low-rpm torquey feel of a twin with the raw, high-rpm power of an inline 4.

The R1 features Yamaha D-MODE (or drive mode) with rider-selectable throttle control maps to program YCC-T performance characteristics for riding conditions. The standard map is designed for optimum overall performance. The “A” mode lets the rider enjoy sportier engine response in the low- to mid-speed range, and the “B” mode offers response that is somewhat less sharp response for riding situations that require especially sensitive throttle operation.

The rear frame is now lightweight CF die-cast magnesium, contributing the optimum mass centralization. Suspension includes new SOQI front forks which use one of the tricks developed for our winning MotoGP bikes: independent damping. The left fork handles compression damping and the right side handles the rebound damping. And the rear shock adopts new bottom linkage for optimum suspension characteristics.

Completely new, the new model has a more serious, less busy look. The side fairing is smoother for a sleeker appearance. And, instead of the usual four bulb headlight design, the ’09 model now has only two projector-type bulbs mounted closer to the nose of the bike. This positions ram air ducts closer in for a more compact, smooth look. In addition, the rounded lenses are new and unique to the supersport industry.

Discuss.....



I'm impressed.  I could see myself one day buying an R1/R6 with this technology.  I like the crankshaft/engine design (it's obviously worked well enough for Rossi  [laugh] ) and I especially like the rider-selected throttle mapping.  My main complaint with most modern Japanese bikes has been the overly busy styling and graphics; this bike looks more refined.

Wonder if I could get one in solid red or yellow - I'd hate to have a bike that didn't match my gear  <wink> 
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: fastwin on October 03, 2008, 07:59:10 PM
You know, yes, I'm an old fart. But do you know how freaking awesome all the trickle down technology is for us on the street? That new R1 sounds fabulous. The amount of improvements in street (and dirt bike) technology from the late 60s and early 70s until now is awesome!!! You have no idea. I'm sure it's equal to the incredible improvement in hyperspace/wireless technology but to a lesser degree. I come from the stone axe tech era, it's like someone showed me how to start a fire. It's a shame if you can't appreciate the awesome, unbelievable advances that I have witnessed. Jeez, for you and me it just keeps getting better and better. I hope there is no end in sight.... until we run out of gas. :P Somehow electric Ducatis just wouldn't sound the same on decel. [moto]

Ooops, this is the politics, religion, etc thread... sorry.
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: Kevin848 on October 04, 2008, 01:03:56 PM
Quote from: pipeliner1978 on October 03, 2008, 06:38:39 PM
(http://pic40.picturetrail.com/VOL363/7371556/19880304/337172877.jpg)

Thats hot!
Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: fastwin on October 27, 2008, 04:43:27 PM
OK, back to politics. Read it and weep. These guns will be worth more than a '74 750SS if certain people have their way. There, I said it. Please prove me wrong... but I doubt it. Just hope they don't come after our bikes like Senator Danforth did in the 80s. At least he came to his senses and realized he was being bullshited and controlled by lies from the Insurance Institute for Highway Safety and Brian O'Neil. They were/are the anti-sportbike/motorcycle equal to Sarah Brady and Handgun Control.

http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa081027-mo_gunsales.154ffc009.html (http://www.wfaa.com/sharedcontent/dws/wfaa/latestnews/stories/wfaa081027-mo_gunsales.154ffc009.html)


Title: Re: Politics, Religion, and other things that I am right about
Post by: LYD on October 28, 2008, 01:52:30 AM
God bless me!!   ;D