"Dani Pedrosa's manager Alberto Puig has launched a stinging attack on the Spaniard's departing Repsol Honda team-mate Nicky Hayden - saying that the American used to 'copy' Pedrosa's settings because he can't set-up a bike himself, was never a rival to Pedrosa and is a 'hypocrite' for claiming that he doesn't have a problem with Dani."
Even if you assume all of that is completely true, at least have the decency to wait until the season is over before you pick a fight with your protégé's teammate. Nicky could probably still kick Puig in the head through that damn divider, and I hope he does as soon as the last round it over.
Full article:
http://www.crash.net/motorsport/motogp/news/170163-0/puig_blasts_hayden.html (http://www.crash.net/motorsport/motogp/news/170163-0/puig_blasts_hayden.html)
Wow! What a supreme ass.
If Dani doesn't deliver the goods next year, Honda will drop him like a hot dog turd and move on to their next prospect. THAT's how "loyal" they are.
Quote from: tufty on October 08, 2008, 07:45:10 AM
Wow! What a supreme ass.
If Dani doesn't deliver the goods next year, Honda will drop him like a hot dog turd and move on to their next prospect. THAT's how "loyal" they are.
he'll have
someone to blame when Dani doesn't deliver and he's looking for work. ;)
Maybe that will be Nickys' fault too.
well...lets see for a minute..even if Nicky did copy Dani's settings...Dani crashed out last round and Nicky was where?...and in the second half of the season Nicky has finished where in comparo to Dani?...
Dani just hasn't been the same since his crash in the rain in Germany and Nicky has finally started getting parts and chassis's and so forth that he can work with on a bike that wasn't designed for him in the 1st place and he is getting better as the season progresses to the end here....Puig is just trying to smoke screen this whole thing to take the spotlight off of Dani after he stuck his foot in his mouth to get himself on Bridgestones since Nicky is leaving and Nicky has done nothing out of line to bash anyone when he totally and wholly has the right to do so...shows how classy he is in comparo to his counterparts!
MotoGP Championships
Nicky Hayden: 1
Dani Pedrosa: 0
Gee, thanks for the settings and parts during 2006 Dani. We always knew you'd put Nicky over the top :P
Yeah...The Midget and his manager are whiny little pregnant doges.
that whole copied settings thing is particularly funny.. so they roll out the '07 bike and nicky's first reaction is, "are they kidding?" it looks like a pit bike. or something that would fit dani. same ground-up 100% brand new bike, same tires, same garage. yeah, they'll probably talk about baseline settings.
but if you watch they way each guy rides, and listen to nicky's greatly differing view on TC, it's pretty obvious that they bikes are nowhere near set up the same. pete benson has said the same thing.
who has the better record lately? who did all that testing while someone else sat, injured?
whatever. par for the course with Puig.
Seriously? what a fairy...
I can't wait to see his face net year when Nicky whoops the midget on the duc. ;D
Quote from: tufty on October 08, 2008, 07:45:10 AM
Wow! What a supreme ass.
If Dani doesn't deliver the goods next year, Honda will drop him like a hot dog turd and move on to their next prospect. THAT's how "loyal" they are.
don't underestimate the power of a spanish sponsor's desire to have a spanish rider.
Quote from: derby on October 08, 2008, 09:40:10 AM
don't underestimate the power of a spanish sponsor's desire to have a spanish rider.
Yeah, Puig/Pedrosa aren't going anywhere. Puig is in REALLY good with Repsol and since they write the big checks every years, he'll be there. And frankly, he deserves to be. I don't like him much as a human (and Puig even less), but he gets results. He's a very talented rider/racer and he has a legitimate shot at the title the next few years, HRC would be stupid to get rid of him (unless they can somehow manage to get Lorenzo).
What a dick.
Seeing as Hayden's only about 40 pounds heavier than Pedrosa, I'm sure Dani's settings would work perfectly. [roll]
Next thing we'll be hearing is that Hayden was secretly switching his bodywork onto Dani's bikes.
Quote from: derby on October 08, 2008, 09:40:10 AM
don't underestimate the power of a spanish sponsor's desire to have a spanish rider.
Possibly, but given the "loyalty" of Honda and Repsol I can think of 3 Spanish riders who have to be making Pedrobot nervous;
Lorenzo, Bautista and Barbera.
I'll bet here and now that if Dani isn't in the top 3 next year then he's gone... or at the very least riding the "B" bike. [evil]
Quote from: Speeddog on October 08, 2008, 10:37:12 AM
Seeing as Hayden's only about 40 pounds heavier than Pedrosa, I'm sure Dani's settings would work perfectly. [roll]
Next thing we'll be hearing is that Hayden was secretly switching his bodywork onto Dani's bikes.
No, but he was secretly farting in Dani's helmet ;D
So glad I found this thread :) I read that article and wanted to scream!! What an ass!
I really hope Dani loses often to Hayden next year! F that whole team! [laugh]
With such a great attitude like that from Puig -- it makes me want to run over to the local Honda store and buy a Repsol branded Honda.... NOT!
I'd love to see the cool t-shirts and animated figures that would appear if Hayden on a Ducati beats Pedrosa/Puig...
I couldn't believe that when it popped up this morning, and I'm glad Nicky is going to be riding bike proven to kick ass next year. Pedrosa and Puig can suck it.
I'd love to see a nice mid-season shunt between the two, where Dani tries the same pass as 2006. Only this time maybe Nicky would just kick Pedrosa's whiny ass in the gravel trap and get back in the race!
For the record, I'm not a fan of Pedrobot nor do I like Puig at all. That being said:
Hayden sure is getting a lot of love lately with everyone assuming he's going to get on the Ducati and start winning races. Hayden never did win many races... even during his championship season. He's consistant, but not a race winner per se. Injuries aside, Pedrosa is a much better rider than Nicky in general and on most days will smoke his ass. Don't let the love affair with the good ol' boy cloud your vision of what's really going on in motogp. GP is really just a three to five horse race, and I'm not sure Nicky fits in that allotment of riders. Rossi, Stoner, Pedro, Lorenzo, and the outside looking in will most likely be Hayden or Dovi.
I think Nicky will do well next year, but I don't expect him to start running circles around Pedro, or any other front runner either. Puig ran his mouth, but unfortunately most of it is probably true. Hayden isn't a rival of Dani, b/c he IS always behind, neither is he a rival of any of the front runners at this point and time.
I don't agree with the whole setting up the bike crap, but I do assume he uses Dani's bike for data reference ( or did before the split ). Anyway, my 2cp for now.
i also can't wait to see him on the duc. i think it's a great move for both parties, and i hope everyone's assumption about the rideability of that bike complimenting nicky's style/background is correct. but let's not forget that in the 800cc era, so far 1 in 7 riders who have tried can ride that thing worth a crap. or maybe 1.3 if you give elias a little bit of recent credit. point is, with an 86% FAIL rate, the odds are against nicky.
doesn't mean puig aint a turd tho.
I wasnt a race fan when Puig was racing. Was he a Brian W then too?
Puig is a fliippin' ASS HAT.
I'm glad Nicky is leaving Honda for whatever reason. Wish he had done it a long time ago.
He is a good man and I have high hopes for him on the Ducati next year. [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
LA
Quote from: JesterDFW on October 08, 2008, 10:56:58 PM
For the record, I'm not a fan of Pedrobot nor do I like Puig at all. That being said:
Hayden sure is getting a lot of love lately with everyone assuming he's going to get on the Ducati and start winning races. Hayden never did win many races... even during his championship season. He's consistant, but not a race winner per se. Injuries aside, Pedrosa is a much better rider than Nicky in general and on most days will smoke his ass. Don't let the love affair with the good ol' boy cloud your vision of what's really going on in motogp. GP is really just a three to five horse race, and I'm not sure Nicky fits in that allotment of riders. Rossi, Stoner, Pedro, Lorenzo, and the outside looking in will most likely be Hayden or Dovi.
I think Nicky will do well next year, but I don't expect him to start running circles around Pedro, or any other front runner either. Puig ran his mouth, but unfortunately most of it is probably true. Hayden isn't a rival of Dani, b/c he IS always behind, neither is he a rival of any of the front runners at this point and time.
I don't agree with the whole setting up the bike crap, but I do assume he uses Dani's bike for data reference ( or did before the split ). Anyway, my 2cp for now.
WOW!! Word for word I agree. [clap]
Quote from: darylbowden on October 08, 2008, 09:51:59 AM
Yeah, Puig/Pedrosa aren't going anywhere. Puig is in REALLY good with Repsol and since they write the big checks every years, he'll be there. And frankly, he deserves to be. I don't like him much as a human (and Puig even less), but he gets results. He's a very talented rider/racer and he has a legitimate shot at the title the next few years, HRC would be stupid to get rid of him (unless they can somehow manage to get Lorenzo).
Quote from: derby on October 08, 2008, 09:40:10 AM
don't underestimate the power of a spanish sponsor's desire to have a spanish rider.
I totally agree. Irregardless of attitude and statements, Dani is a fantastic rider and I'm sure Repsol loves having him on board. Notice the number of runaway wins he's had? Earlier, I actually expected him to win the championship before Hayden or Stoner. I know that may be blasphemy on this board, but face it, the dude can ride.
i don't think anyone doubts he's faster than flaming goose poop. his racecraft is a little meh.. but it's getting better. i don't really even mind (or care about, more like) his apparent/alleged attitude. but he certainly doesn't seem to be out to Win Friends and Influence People.
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Oct/081010ajl.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2008/Oct/081010ajl.htm)
excellent commentary on the whole ordeal!!!
"Reading the Puig interview, the questions come off as decidedly "lead in", leaving the door wide open to take shots at Nicky. MotoGP.com's interviews aren't typically controversial or gossipyâ€" conspiracy theorists might do the sums as follows: Spanish Manager of Spanish Rider Interviewed by Website of Spanish Series = unchecked slagfest."
"One has to wonder if Dani Pedrosa's legendary soggy-diaper demeanor is the true nature of his personality, or if under Puig's Palpatine-esque tutelage, his Pampers have gotten leakier."
[laugh]
the quote that got me in that article was in regards to the whole disputing point by point on Hayden stealing setting info from Dani what went "...Lastly, Hayden is physically heavier and larger than the tiny Pedrosa, who could "represent the Lollipop Guild" if taken by tornado to Oz...."
Quote from: gm2 on October 10, 2008, 12:34:40 PM
"One has to wonder if Dani Pedrosa's legendary soggy-diaper demeanor is the true nature of his personality, or if under Puig's Palpatine-esque tutelage, his Pampers have gotten leakier."
We all know what happened to young Vader...
Puig's main contribution to MGP will always be comic relief.
No champions, just a good laugh now and then.
He's not an idiot, he just suffers from lack of oxygen due to having his sphincter so tight around his neck.
Quote from: gm2 on October 09, 2008, 07:01:29 AM
i also can't wait to see him on the duc. i think it's a great move for both parties, and i hope everyone's assumption about the rideability of that bike complimenting nicky's style/background is correct. but let's not forget that in the 800cc era, so far 1 in 7 riders who have tried can ride that thing worth a crap. or maybe 1.3 if you give elias a little bit of recent credit. point is, with an 86% FAIL rate, the odds are against nicky.
doesn't mean puig aint a turd tho.
That is true, BUT the one thing I'm hoping for is that when you watch stoner ride the bike is just all over the place and he is comfortable with that, and I don't think most other riders are fine with that. Nicky and Casey both come from a dirt track background and maybe that is why stoner is so quick on the bike and HOPEFULLY why Nicky will be that fast too.....
After reading that article, I'm troubled that they didn't include the following disclaimer
"Mr. Puig's comments are all translated as best as possible as it was difficult to understand his speech what with Pedrosa's cock in his mouth the whole time."
Quote from: superjohn on October 12, 2008, 07:34:07 PM
After reading that article, I'm troubled that they didn't include the following disclaimer
"Mr. Puig's comments are all translated as best as possible as it was difficult to understand his speech what with Pedrosa's cock in his mouth the whole time."
[roll] [laugh]
why would that make a difference, most people can talk with a toothpick in with no problem...
Pooooge is such a cock.
It's no secret that I'm not a huge Hayden fan but Puig has been an ass much longer than this incident. He was the one claiming Hayden was responsible for Pedrosa's crash that took them both out (Portugal?). The sooner he's not around the better.
I think that Hayden doesn't really compare with the other top line riders but on a new bike that suits his style, we may well see a new rider. Look at Stoner's form on the Honda, certainly a bit of change up once he got on the Duc. It would be nice to see an American rider doing well in GP (again) but to be honest, I'd prefer Edwards over Hayden, even Hopkins...
Yeah, yeah, he won the title but let's face it, it wasn't the most convincing. Regarding Pedrobot, he may not have won in GP yet but he *dominated* 250s which is no mean feat. I don't think we've heard the last of Dani, he'll get his shit together and be a threat again as long as he actually knows how to set up a bike or (apparently) how to steal a setup from his team mate.
Was Dani always a cock or did Spooge make him into one?
Foot in mouth disease springs to mind [thumbsup]
hayden responds:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71428 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/71428)
>"I haven't seen his data for a long time and the truth is he sees everybody's data, so be clear about that. So if it's me going fastest or Dovizioso going fastest, he (Pedrosa) sees everything."<
If this is true and Dani does see all Honda riders data, then that is dirty pool imo.
They don't seem to be the most morale boosting builder to ride for unless you're top dog.
We are talking about Honda here, don't be surprised. :-\
http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/71738
Quote from: gm2 on October 27, 2008, 11:31:31 AM
http://www.autosport.com/news/grapevine.php/id/71738
Funny. [laugh]
I wouldn't be surprised if Pedrosa dominates 2nd or 3rd place his whole career and never wins a championship. He seems powered by his own hype machine.
Quote from: sh on October 28, 2008, 09:20:53 PM
I wouldn't be surprised if Pedrosa dominates 2nd or 3rd place his whole career and never wins a championship. He seems powered by his own hype machine.
gee....sounds like shades of the past re-occurring....remember Max Biaggi in the GP class?
yeah, i dunno. there are plenty of times where pedro takes off and no one sees him 'til parc fermé. he could have a 2nd place career but a championship is certainly within his level of ability, if all the stars align.
no one starts like him, incidentally.
Quote from: gm2 on October 29, 2008, 08:48:29 AM
no one starts like him, incidentally.
No one weighs in like him...incidentally ;D
...toni elias.
...tinkerbell
Quote from: FatguyRacer on October 09, 2008, 08:04:12 AM
I wasnt a race fan when Puig was racing. Was he a Brian W then too?
Yes.
Can't Understand Normal Thinking still applies.