Hey guys,
I'm new here... so hi!
I'm in the process of saving up some money to buy my first Ducati. I'm mainly interested in the 696, but may end up getting the 1100.
On AMS website, they have the MSRP prices listed. How do these related to OTD prices? Is it reasonable to expect that I can get the bike for that price (OTD), or will it cost even more after TTL? Any deals to be had in the ducati world (besides buying used)?
thanks,
Corey
Welcome [thumbsup]
Doubtful on deals with the 696, and no way on the 1100. You will probably have to pay full retail and ttl. The 696 is too new and easy to sell, and the 1100 isn't even available yet.
hmm...interesting that AMS has the M1100 for 11,995, or the S2R1000 for 11,495... i would think that price would be coming down much lower, more than it is right now for sure
retail + TTL and don't forget about the $1k for freight and assembly, or whatever the hell they call it. Welcome to group! My only suggestion, do your research! There's a huge difference between a 696 and the new 1100. The 1100 looks to be a torquey untamed monster. Know what you are buying before you buy it. I mean that about the 696 and the 1100. If $$ was a slight concern, the s2r1000 IMO is the best bang for your buck. Find a used one with a few mods for a lot less than new. A decent exhaust will cost $2500. But not if its already on a used bike.....
No deals to be had on new models. The OTD price on my 848 was unmovable when it came to signing papers. You may be able to score some gear instead of a deal on the bike.
Oh yeah, welcome to the DFWM. Whichever bike you get we'll need pics [thumbsup]
Welcome and good luck on the new buy. However as others have said you are not going to be dealing them down on the price. It will be Retail + TTL + Assembly. You may be able to get them to throw in your first service or a track day.... its worth the try anyway. [thumbsup]
Yep, welcome to the wonderfull world of Ducati [thumbsup] Best deals on a new bike will be on the 08's they need to move for the 09's comming in. I got my 07 S2R1K in December of last year and ended up paying 10.5 OTD!
Benvenuto, to you. I too am a new (experienced) Duc rider and a newbie to this gracious, kind select bunch of smart, good-looking, hard working, trend-setting and fashionably conscious group of enthusiastic riders. Take the advise of these hallowed peeps for they have insight that far extends beyond the commoners comprehension. Research, ride, inspect, compare, read in depth before buying one. Understand that you buying a 2-wheeled Ferarri and will need to give it the utmost attention at all times when you are riding and stay on top of it. It will not treat you well if you take your eyes off the road for one second while at speed. (re: White Cat down thread). If this is your first bike you may want to consider a starter bike of another brand and lower cc's rather than an 1100cc Duc. Who knows you may be able to handle corners as well as Casey. I hope I'm not out of line in saying these things but after riding bikes for most of my life this is one bike that is easy to ride but will get away from you if you don't respect it. All that said I highly recommend one. I myself started out with the secondhand one at left and plan on getting into something more likely to kill me quicker as soon as possible. Great to have you post and can't wait to meet you. Stay tuned to this channel for further updates.
Thanks for all the comments guys. Really appreciate the time.
You aren't out of line at all redulator. This will be my first personal bike, but I'm not inexperienced. My father (who lives very close) has three bikes. I've grown up (and have access to) with a '73 honda cb175 and an '83 honda CB1100F. I've been enjoying riding them, but feel I should get one of my own and stop mooching of pops.
I'm still several months away from the purchase, as I do not want to finance. Sometime over the winter is when I plan on making the purchase, so by next season I'll be set to go.
Just doing some research on what I should expect, as I've never bought a new bike before.
Again, thanks for the help guys.
-Corey
Much-O Welcome-O!
Keep us posted on the bike quest, & let us know if we can help [thumbsup]
welcome and go ride the 696 if you get a chance. if it is like my 695 or even better it may be the one you want.
I'm pretty sure it is.
I'm not a super big guy (5'9'' ; 175lbs (presently, still trying to lose some more)), and I probably won't really use the extra top end of the 1100. i want a light, quick (not necessarily fast) bike. The only thing about the 1100 that entices me is the extra torque.
I'll just have to ride them both at some point ;D
Quote from: coreybox on October 10, 2008, 05:50:06 PM
I'm not a super big guy (5'9'' ; 175lbs (presently, still trying to lose some more)),
fatass [roll]
Quote from: coreybox on October 10, 2008, 05:50:06 PM
and I probably won't really use the extra top end of the 1100.
I doubt there is a lot more topend, I think its all balls from what I read.....
Quote from: coreybox on October 10, 2008, 05:50:06 PM
. i want a light, quick (not necessarily fast) bike.
The 696 sounds like it's exactly what you need. For your size, it will feel torquey and be capable of bouncing 125 on the speedo
If the M1100 is anything like my S4R1000, it's a torque monster, almost hard to ride in town.......sometimes frustrating......it needs to be abused.(by someone capable of doing so)
anyway, good luck with your decision......and I still stand by my original thought, if it's your first Duc and Monster.....S2R1000(used) best bang for your buck.
Quote from: coreybox on October 10, 2008, 05:50:06 PM
I'm pretty sure it is.
Hi Corey,
I have a 696 and it is every thing I need in a bike. It is my first Ducati and my first bike since my NSR 125 when I was 17 in England, I'm a little older now but probably no more mature [roll]. I used to ride around on rented a GSXR 600 a few times a year after I sold the NSR but had not ridden for 10 years until I bought the 696. Well to be honest I had to take the MSF course to get my TX licence so I rode around a car park the weekend before getting it.
Well anyway it is more than enough bike for me at the moment, great fun to ride and perfect to hone your skills on. I went out for a ride with this bunch on Sunday with my Fiancée on the back and there was no issue keeping within sight of them and there was plenty of torque, having just had the 600 mile service done I still need to keep the revs down but there was still plenty of it when I came out of the corners.
If you have any questions or want to see the bike just let me know. [thumbsup]
Quote from: andym on October 10, 2008, 08:26:42 PM
having just had the 600 mile service done I still need to keep the revs down but there was still plenty of it when I came out of the corners.
I bought a new Duc from AMS and asked Stuart how I should break it in......his answer was however you plan on riding it. I think he knows his stuff too. Alot of peeps will tell you to break it in hard........I didn't want to let them down. It worked fine for me. When it comes to [moto] never be afraid to ride it. Why else did you buy it? To show it off at the CC to your friends, or to get your rocks off?
FYI......I get my rocks off everytime I ride. unfortunately, I think McKraut got his off on my wifes bike.... Still trying to figure out if it was the bike, the tank pad or other... for some reason she didn't want to wash it. :o [popcorn] I need to quit typing when I'm drinking after a BS week.....
Quote from: andym on October 10, 2008, 08:26:42 PM
... my first bike since my NSR 125 when I was 17 in England ....
Oh man those are F'n sweet! Ive always wanted one of those... one of the "R" models. Im guessing yours was kitted for street riding? I DO have an NSR50R though and it is tons of fun, going to race it in the MiniMotoGP next year [thumbsup]
Quote from: Kevin848 on October 11, 2008, 05:31:49 AM
Oh man those are F'n sweet! Ive always wanted one of those... one of the "R" models. Im guessing yours was kitted for street riding? I DO have an NSR50R though and it is tons of fun, going to race it in the MiniMotoGP next year [thumbsup]
Sure you dont mean the 250? NSR125 was mostly begginer bikes nothing like the Aprilia RS125 or Cagiva Mito 125...
here is my 250SE proarm from back in the day, FUN bike and very advanced, didnt have a key i had to use a small credit card to start it.... [thumbsup]
(http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2007/12/06/bikepics-1107885-full.jpg)
(http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008/06/15/bikepics-1321151-800.jpg)
very cool!
Quote from: giannis on October 11, 2008, 08:53:35 AM
Sure you dont mean the 250? NSR125 was mostly begginer bikes nothing like the Aprilia RS125 or Cagiva Mito 125...
It was a beginner bike, it's what I learnt to ride on. In the UK, if you are under 21 you have to learn on a 125 with power restrictions (16.6bhp), once you pass your test you can ride any bike restricted to 33 bhp, if you are older that 21 you can learn on bigger bikes but these need to be restricted to 47bhp.
Quote from: andym on October 11, 2008, 10:18:40 AM
It was a beginner bike, it's what I learnt to ride on. In the UK, if you are under 21 you have to learn on a 125 with power restrictions (16.6bhp), once you pass your test you can ride any bike restricted to 33 bhp, if you are older that 21 you can learn on bigger bikes but these need to be restricted to 47bhp.
i know that in Greece where i come from you ride 125cc bikes or up to 33hp or 43hp dont remeber exactly till 21yold then unlimited
when i got my lisence back in 1992 we didnt have size or horsepower restrictions... but my first bike was a Honda CB400Superfour and the NSR pictured...
Andy just said it all. Given what you said about your experience and skill level (too say nothing of more $$$ for the bigger bike) I think Andy and Chris are right on target with Tommy's suggestion of a used S2R1000 (or S2R800!) being a real close second. [thumbsup] Way too many people out there limping around with steel plates in their legs who "bought over" their skill levels. Absolutley no shame or insult to your manhood (or womanhood... is that a word?) by starting with a 600+cc bike. Makes tons of real world sense. Hell, Jacob could out ride all of us on a stock 695 with deflated tires!!! [moto] [clap]
Good luck with the bike search. Join us at a get together bike or not and get to know us... if you dare!! [drink] [thumbsup]