Why do most helmet manufacturers helmet paint schemes look like shit?
I want something that doesn't scream I'm playing World of Warcraft later, follow me!
(http://www.cyclegear.com/images/StreetHelmets/arai_rx7_hopkins_monster_MD.jpg)
(http://www.cyclegear.com/images/StreetHelmets/arai_profile_sinister_blu_MD.jpg)
(http://www.cyclegear.com/images/StreetHelmets/arai_profile_okada_dragon_MD.jpg)
LOL. I agree. It's almost like they go look at a tattoo parlor's walls before releasing the next years designs.
How many skulls, iron crosses, witches, dragons, 70's fantasy women in Dungeon Dragons garb, can one industry take?
Ironically, the biggest market for tribal art is also the least likey to wear a helmet: 20-something squids.
(Yes, that is scientific fact.)
Finally, i thought I was the only one.
And they get away with charging more money for a helmet that looks like you got ambushed by a florescent paintball team.
I just bought an Arai today and I was complaining about the same thing. What's up with all the graphics? It seems like they are trying to apeal to the 13 year old si-fi geek rather than the average rider. Please tell me the average rider is not a 13 year old si-fi geek.
At the end of the day I got a glossy black helmet. No graphics.
Has anyone seen a MONSTER Arai helmet outside of a track on a person? I see them discounted all the time. Arai's aren't cheep you would think that they would choose something less polarizing
got an arai profile with Phil reed graphic's classy and understated for that reason most graphics are'nt right!
The AGV GP Tech Rossi Dreamtime is neat only the price isnt so neat. It seems that the major brands seem to have the most tacky graphics.
Well, I think the folks that gravitate towards those helmets usually buy them to 'match' the crappy graphics on their bikes. So it goes without saying, and this especially applies to most of the folks on this forum, LESS IS MORE. Hence, we ride stripped down machines that don't need all sorts of crazy paint schemes and graphics to make them look badass....Ducati's just ARE badass. [thumbsup]
While I do like some graphic helmets very much (including my Kagayama replica) some are certainly way overdone. It was hard to find something with no barbed wire, no flames, no goofy monsters and yet still interesting looking.
Quote from: Munch on October 23, 2008, 03:36:07 PM
Why do most helmet manufacturers helmet paint schemes look like shit?
I want something that doesn't scream I'm playing World of Warcraft later, follow me!
(http://www.cyclegear.com/images/StreetHelmets/arai_rx7_hopkins_monster_MD.jpg)
(http://www.cyclegear.com/images/StreetHelmets/arai_profile_sinister_blu_MD.jpg)
(http://www.cyclegear.com/images/StreetHelmets/arai_profile_okada_dragon_MD.jpg)
They look like shit because you don't like them.
The guys they built them for...or their sponsors, do.
Simple...no? ;D
I don't even know where to start with "They look like shit because you don't like them." Your right, I think that's the point of the tread. I'm sure somebody likes them, but in my opinion they do not mirror the sophistication of my monster. I just wish they had some designs that did not look like they were produced by a video game designer. Also, I make the assumption that a percentage of those spending $750 on a helmet may have the same opinion.
Quote from: Fox on October 23, 2008, 05:08:14 PM
I don't even know where to start with "They look like shit because you don't like them." Your right, I think that's the point of the tread. I'm sure somebody likes them, but in my opinion they do not mirror the sophistication of my monster. I just wish they had some designs that did not look like they were produced by a video game designer. Also, I make the assumption that a percentage of those spending $750 on a helmet may have the same opinion.
So buy a white one ...
and pay an artist a grand to come up with a custom design.
Don't like it...
don't make the beast with two backsing buy it.
simple...
no?
Quote from: ducpainter on October 23, 2008, 05:11:05 PM
So buy a white one ...
and pay an artist a grand to come up with a custom design.
Don't like it...
don't make the beast with two backsing buy it.
simple...
no?
Why are you critical of the folks don't like the designs provided by Arai? Where were you when people were complaining about the 696? Did you have have same reaction? Don't f'n buy it? People have opinions on moto related stuff and they use the board to express them. I don't get your strong reaction.
I buy Arai's because they fit my head the best. I have a black one and a white one and I wish I could find one with a design I liked.
Quote from: ducpainter on October 23, 2008, 05:11:05 PM
So buy a white one ...
and pay an artist a grand to come up with a custom design.
Don't like it...
don't make the beast with two backsing buy it.
simple...
no?
Very true. Every helmet manufacturer has options. And just like everything else, if the there aren't enough provided, you can do something custom. But it would be nice to have a selection that meet halfway between "over the top" and one color. But at least for me, I like things simple and clean. So I have plenty of options...black ;D
Some guys get it right.
http://helmetguy.com/gallery/motorcycle (http://helmetguy.com/gallery/motorcycle)
(http://www.helmetguy.com/gallery/albums/Sweet-tooth-the-clown/Sweets_the_clown_helmet_front.jpg)
Quote from: dutchy73 on October 23, 2008, 05:23:40 PM
Very true. Every helmet manufacturer has options. And just like everything else, if the their aren't enough provided, you can do something custom. But it would be nice to have a selection that meet halfway between "over the top" and one color. But at least for me, I like things simple and clean. So I have plenty of options...black ;D
ya know....
there are as many opinions as assholes...
and i'm not saying that about you.... ;)
The helmet designs of the 'racers' are derived from advertising dollars...
if you can't wear it....don't.
The helmet is the same thing in black...or white.
...or you could become a motogp or wsbk rider...
and ARAI will certainly build a helmet for you, ;D
Quote from: somebastid on October 23, 2008, 05:33:26 PM
Some guys get it right.
http://helmetguy.com/gallery/motorcycle (http://helmetguy.com/gallery/motorcycle)
(http://www.helmetguy.com/gallery/albums/Sweet-tooth-the-clown/Sweets_the_clown_helmet_front.jpg)
whoa. The Boba Fett and Iron Man helmet's are particularly crazy.
Quote from: ducpainter on October 23, 2008, 05:36:58 PM
ya know....
there are as many opinions as assholes...
and i'm not saying that about you.... ;)
The helmet designs of the 'racers' are derived from advertising dollars...
if you can't wear it....don't.
The helmet is the same thing in black...or white.
...or you could become a motogp or wsbk rider...
and ARAI will certainly build a helmet for you, ;D
Nah, I get it. I was actually kind of agreeing with you. It's not right for me, so I won't/didn't buy a helmet with graphics. But let's face it, some of the helmets out there aren't tied to teams or sponsors. And they are just bad. But overall, there are plenty of options out there for folks. If you don't like graphics, don't buy a bucket with them. So I'm with you on this, trust me.
Quote from: Fox on October 23, 2008, 05:08:14 PM
I don't even know where to start with "They look like shit because you don't like them." Your right, I think that's the point of the tread. I'm sure somebody likes them, but in my opinion they do not mirror the sophistication of my monster. I just wish they had some designs that did not look like they were produced by a video game designer. Also, I make the assumption that a percentage of those spending $750 on a helmet may have the same opinion.
As a game developer I take offense to the insinuation that our work looks anything like those helmets.
Quote from: yotogi on October 23, 2008, 05:49:26 PM
As a game developer I take offense to the insinuation that our work looks anything like those helmets.
fair...i retract my statement
Quote from: dutchy73 on October 23, 2008, 05:46:06 PM
Nah, I get it. I was actually kind of agreeing with you. It's not right for me, so I won't/didn't buy a helmet with graphics. But let's face it, some of the helmets out there aren't tied to teams or sponsors. And they are just bad. But overall, there are plenty of options out there for folks. If you don't like graphics, don't buy a bucket with them. So I'm with you on this, trust me.
Thas cool. [thumbsup]
I think I'll go with this...
(http://www.motowheels.com/italian/images/lg196659533.jpg)
Just before I drive the bike off a cliff...
Flames, flowers? WTF?
That's why I paid Nate to do this to my helmet....
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j135/JoshFan1980a/New%20Ducati/DSC01765.jpg)
Mine is a pretty lame tribal deal. But I got it off craigslist for cheap. It was brand new. Arai Quantum Edwards f
(http://di1.shopping.com/images1/pi/c9/3d/ac/44831840-177x150-0-0.jpg)
Quote from: NAKID on October 23, 2008, 07:20:25 PM
That's why I paid Nate to do this to my helmet....
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j135/JoshFan1980a/New%20Ducati/DSC01765.jpg)
Nice
Yeah I agree, most of the graphics on the major brands are "questionable" as to whether or not they jive w/ our likes. I personally just bought a new Shoei RF1000 w/ some graphics that I wasn't crazy about, but I was going more for the protection/weight/features angle than looks. Plus the $$$ was too good to pass up and I needed a second helmet for 2 up. Oh well, at least I'm set for when I get that extended swingarm Busa w/ custom paint. [laugh] My helmet will fit right in. [thumbsup]
Later
Quote from: somebastid on October 23, 2008, 05:33:26 PM
Some guys get it right.
http://helmetguy.com/gallery/motorcycle (http://helmetguy.com/gallery/motorcycle)
(http://www.helmetguy.com/gallery/albums/Sweet-tooth-the-clown/Sweets_the_clown_helmet_front.jpg)
Sorry.... have to say it..... 8 pages of
douche. Cheesy ;D
Quote from: supakpow2 on October 23, 2008, 07:57:48 PM
Sorry.... have to say it..... 8 pages of douche. ???
I don't see you offering a better alternative. G'wan-define "cool"-give three examples.
I'm not real wild about the newer paint schemes. But I really like the old yellow/silver/black "Squadra" paint scheme on my 8 year old Arai. I need to replace it, but they no longer offer this paint job. I guess I will have to buy a solid silver helmet.
(http://www.starcycle.com/street/sgt_squadra_yellow.jpg)
Quote from: dutchy73 on October 23, 2008, 04:17:45 PM
Well, I think the folks that gravitate towards those helmets usually buy them to 'match' the crappy graphics on their bikes. So it goes without saying, and this especially applies to most of the folks on this forum, LESS IS MORE. Hence, we ride stripped down machines that don't need all sorts of crazy paint schemes and graphics to make them look badass....Ducati's just ARE badass. [thumbsup]
not when it comes to the tri-color ducatis.. then ducati enthusiasts really show how little taste they have.. sorry but the tricolor paint jobs look hideous on any ducati, thank heaven that they didnt' put it on the d16..
but i have to agree with some posters here. i personally liked a lot of the rf-1000 designs but they don't put those on the x-11 helmets so got the nicest x-11 patern i could go for.. coincidently its a motogp replica, go figure.
hey different designs for everyone that is in teh market for a helmet. that is cool, more choices equals more dollars for the manufacturers.
the designs i think are ugly i wont' buy, but someone else will, but so far everyone seems to liek the vermuelen 3 yellow helmet in any store i walk in with it, people always are thinking it must be a "custom paint" on it. I get a kick out of that. At least everyone doesn't have that helmet, so its all good.
I think this is the best one. I couldn't stop laughing when I saw Rossi using it on the race.
I also don't like the color schemes and figures of bike's helmets, most of the times.
But I have to say Rossi have the best ones.
(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll39/monstro76/valentino_rossi_helmet_02.jpg?t=1224820133)
Quote from: Monstro on October 23, 2008, 08:59:47 PM
I think this is the best one. I couldn't stop laughing when I saw Rossi using it on the race.
I also don't like the color schemes and figures of bike's helmets, most of the times.
But I have to say Rossi have the best ones.
(http://i284.photobucket.com/albums/ll39/monstro76/valentino_rossi_helmet_02.jpg?t=1224820133)
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] That's funny as all get out! Here are my helmets:
(http://img521.imageshack.us/img521/4458/titechindustriale3qrighxx3.jpg) (http://assets0-rr.egoragroup.com/images/P/03-300_1_lg.jpg)
Suomy used to make good graphics but failed in 08. I read somewhere that bright colored helmets makes you more visible to cagers. You can always go all black...
(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2325/img6167sb3.jpg)
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7151/img6163bu3.jpg)
(http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/7649/img6185jn8.jpg)
Quote from: asado on October 23, 2008, 11:14:58 PM
Suomy used to make good graphics but failed in 08. I read somewhere that bright colored helmets makes you more visible to cagers. You can always go all black...
(http://img90.imageshack.us/img90/2325/img6167sb3.jpg)
(http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/7151/img6163bu3.jpg)
(http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/7649/img6185jn8.jpg)
For looks, you can't go wrong with black and a tinted visor. Might be lacking in visibility.
Asado, what kind of helmet is that black one? Hop off your Monster and into your F-16 much? Very cool!
HJC has this full carbon fiber helmet that looks kick ass... till you flip to the front and see the GIANT HJC sticker that they clear coated over so that you can not remove it. HJC is a lower end helmet but I still would have bought it, had it not had the big sticker ruining the effect of the carbon coolness.
I opt for a full face Arai, but if I ever reconsidered, Ruby would be the top of my list for style.
http://www.ateliersruby.com/ (http://www.ateliersruby.com/)
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/lukevn/ruby3.jpg)
Quote from: LUKE on October 24, 2008, 08:35:40 AM
I opt for a full face Arai, but if I ever reconsidered, Ruby would be the top of my list for style.
http://www.ateliersruby.com/ (http://www.ateliersruby.com/)
(http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/mm98/lukevn/ruby3.jpg)
I dig the helmet on the right. Very cool.
Quote from: LUKE on October 24, 2008, 08:35:40 AM
I opt for a full face Arai, but if I ever reconsidered, Ruby would be the top of my list for style.
http://www.ateliersruby.com/ (http://www.ateliersruby.com/)
Dang... if they did full face... that would be kick ass.
Asado, I absolutley LOVE that "Roof". I've looked for these types of helmets online, but couldn't find them. Maybe now that I have the name "roof", I'll have better luck.
I understand what the original post is saying. I used to hate all brightly colored graphic helmets, but now that I'm into racing, I dig the ones that are actual race replicas. If it's not a race replica, it needs to be subtle, IMO.
I have this helmet, but haven't worn it on the bike yet!
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk233/mitchesc/helmet.jpg)
Quote from: Smitch on October 24, 2008, 09:04:37 AM
Asado, I absolutley LOVE that "Roof". I've looked for these types of helmets online, but couldn't find them. Maybe now that I have the name "roof", I'll have better luck.
I understand what the original post is saying. I used to hate all brightly colored graphic helmets, but now that I'm into racing, I dig the ones that are actual race replicas. If it's not a race replica, it needs to be subtle, IMO.
I have this helmet, but haven't worn it on the bike yet!
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk233/mitchesc/helmet.jpg)
Wow it comes with a neck guard and everything! If it was mine I would dip the tip of the "horns" in red.
From what I've seen, the helmets come in 'badass kid" or plain. What about cool?
and if I had to go plain, I'd never choose black - summer's hot here in PA!!
Gear and helmets need to be revamped. Light colors for the summer and visibility (screw hiding dirt!).
Excellent Idea!!! Dip those horns in red!!!
Quote from: Smitch on October 24, 2008, 09:04:37 AM
Asado, I absolutley LOVE that "Roof". I've looked for these types of helmets online, but couldn't find them. Maybe now that I have the name "roof", I'll have better luck.
I understand what the original post is saying. I used to hate all brightly colored graphic helmets, but now that I'm into racing, I dig the ones that are actual race replicas. If it's not a race replica, it needs to be subtle, IMO.
I have this helmet, but haven't worn it on the bike yet!
(http://i281.photobucket.com/albums/kk233/mitchesc/helmet.jpg)
Is that DOT and SNELL approved?
Quote from: NAKID on October 23, 2008, 07:20:25 PM
That's why I paid Nate to do this to my helmet....
(http://i79.photobucket.com/albums/j135/JoshFan1980a/New%20Ducati/DSC01765.jpg)
That's a great looking helmet. What did it run you to paint?
Quote from: Ducatiloo on October 24, 2008, 09:13:00 AM
Wow it comes with a neck guard and everything! If it was mine I would dip the tip of the "horns" in red.
HA! Actually the 'horns' represent a cresent moon. In feudal Japan, the message was, "You're reaching too high."
Definitely not Snell and DOT approved.
You'd have to ask ducpainter what he would charge you
Quote from: ryandalling on October 24, 2008, 08:08:14 AM
HJC has this full carbon fiber helmet that looks kick ass... till you flip to the front and see the GIANT HJC sticker that they clear coated over so that you can not remove it. HJC is a lower end helmet but I still would have bought it, had it not had the big sticker ruining the effect of the carbon coolness.
i have the hjc carbon and its a great helmet. they actually make one that has a bit of a pattern to it that looks pretty good too. as for the hjc sticker, you can always find something to put over it, or just be proud of what youre wearing.
web pic of the solid carbon
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/struhall/the%20car%20and%20bike/ac12carbon.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/struhall/the%20car%20and%20bike/ac12carbonrear.jpg)
same, but with graphics
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/struhall/the%20car%20and%20bike/ac12vaderside.jpg)
(http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y119/struhall/the%20car%20and%20bike/ac12vaderback.jpg)
Quote from: lauramonster on October 24, 2008, 09:14:52 AM
From what I've seen, the helmets come in 'badass kid" or plain. What about cool?
and if I had to go plain, I'd never choose black - summer's hot here in PA!!
Gear and helmets need to be revamped. Light colors for the summer and visibility (screw hiding dirt!).
as someone that grew up in texas, and wears a black helmet year round, i dont think you have anything to worry about getting too hot up there in PA .
Quote from: Munch on October 23, 2008, 03:36:07 PM
I want something that doesn't scream I'm playing World of Warcraft later, follow me!
But you DO play World of Warcraft...
Quote from: Fox on October 24, 2008, 09:25:32 AM
That's a great looking helmet. What did it run you to paint?
Here's a link to the Troy Lee Designs pricing with explanations.
I've had 3 quotes on painting my X-11 to match my RF-1000 Zemke Replica (Yellow). They've all been within 50.00 of the TLD price and the descriptions are consistent with the prices I've been quoted. Even adding your name or numbers can be pricey as hell depending on the font, paint, number of colors or metal leaf chosen.
(BTW - not pushing TLD here they just happened to have the best descriptions re price points with pics for reference. prices as i said have actually been pretty consistent across the board re my quotes. Personally I'm not willing to spend the price of my helmet to have it painted.)
http://troyleedesigns.com/paint/pricing.php (http://troyleedesigns.com/paint/pricing.php)
Basic Graphics
Simple designs, few colors, straight-line graphics. May incorporate lettering, numbers and pin striping at additional charge.
Pricing starts at $400
Average to Detailed Graphics
Can include multiple colors, flames, chrome base designs, candy colors, lettering, numbers or pin striping.
Price ranging from $700 - $1500
Detailed Graphics
Can include anything from character work, theme designs, lettering, numbers, pin striping, or any combination of detailed airbrush work.
Pricing starts at $1200
Quote from: COWBOY on October 24, 2008, 10:12:46 AM
Here's a link to the Troy Lee Designs pricing with explanations.
I've had 3 quotes on painting my X-11 to match my RF-1000 Zemke Replica (Yellow). They've all been within 50.00 of the TLD price and the descriptions are consistent with the prices I've been quoted. Even adding your name or numbers can be pricey as hell depending on the font, paint, number of colors or metal leaf chosen.
(BTW - not pushing TLD here they just happened to have the best descriptions re price points with pics for reference. prices as i said have actually been pretty consistent across the board re my quotes. Personally I'm not willing to spend the price of my helmet to have it painted.)
http://troyleedesigns.com/paint/pricing.php (http://troyleedesigns.com/paint/pricing.php)
Basic Graphics
Simple designs, few colors, straight-line graphics. May incorporate lettering, numbers and pin striping at additional charge.
Pricing starts at $400
Average to Detailed Graphics
Can include multiple colors, flames, chrome base designs, candy colors, lettering, numbers or pin striping.
Price ranging from $700 - $1500
Detailed Graphics
Can include anything from character work, theme designs, lettering, numbers, pin striping, or any combination of detailed airbrush work.
Pricing starts at $1200
For those prices I'll suffer with the manus graphics. ;D
Quote from: Munch on October 23, 2008, 03:36:07 PM
I want something that doesn't scream I'm playing World of Warcraft later, follow me!
I would be worried about Harry Potter Groupies when I stopped for gas. Seriously though I've noted HP fans liked the helmets your talking about. So there is a market.
I'm more or less stuck with the one-color-fits-all because I need 3XL. I would love graphics to a degree, but couldn't find any in my size.
The stripes are meant to go on fenders - cut the middle stripe down to fit within the air vents. Cheap and OK?
(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l394/stopintime/Stickermodsonhelmet.jpg)
I agree most graphics suck. AGV seems to have the best but they don't fit my head...Arai does. Arai is Japanese, so I'm guessing their inspiration comes from their cartoons.
This was the coolest Arai Vector that I could find...so I bought it. ;D
(http://www.araiamericas.com/helmets/images/helmets/vector/vector_read_f_290x290.jpg)
Quote from: Triple J on October 24, 2008, 11:23:23 AM
I agree most graphics suck. AGV seems to have the best but they don't fit my head...Arai does. Arai is Japanese, so I'm guessing their inspiration comes from their cartoons.
This was the coolest Arai Vector that I could find...so I bought it. ;D
(http://www.araiamericas.com/helmets/images/helmets/vector/vector_read_f_290x290.jpg)
I picked up the same helmet. The Phil Read rep is classy, and was cheaper than the same helmet in solid colors (or cruddy graphics) for some reason. Did have to cover up the union Jack.
The only racer now I have seen with a relatively okay/simple design is Simoncelli's AGV design, which apparently does not exist in US stores.
Quote from: Fox on October 24, 2008, 09:25:32 AM
That's a great looking helmet. What did it run you to paint?
Not being able to speak for how Nakid had his lid done, you can do the same thing with a fresh silver helmet (or whatever color) and some sheet vinyl that will run you no more than 10 bucks. It does have a little bit of a raised look for it and wouldn't have any kind of clear coat over top, but I helped a buddy with his and it ended up looking really good, even up close. I personally prefer a very understated helmet, or at the most something like Nakid's. It's the bike I want people to look at, not my big-ass head. Now if we could only get helmet manufacturers to put the decals OUTSIDE the clearcoat......
Quote from: Jarvicious on October 24, 2008, 12:22:41 PM
Not being able to speak for how Nakid had his lid done, you can do the same thing with a fresh silver helmet (or whatever color) and some sheet vinyl that will run you no more than 10 bucks. It does have a little bit of a raised look for it and wouldn't have any kind of clear coat over top, but I helped a buddy with his and it ended up looking really good, even up close. I personally prefer a very understated helmet, or at the most something like Nakid's. It's the bike I want people to look at, not my big-ass head. Now if we could only get helmet manufacturers to put the decals OUTSIDE the clearcoat......
I may give that a shot because I'm not going to pay a grrrr to have it painted.
Quote from: ducpainter on October 24, 2008, 10:18:21 AM
For those prices I'll suffer with the manus graphics. ;D
That's the point TOP was making.
Some would like a non solid helmet that wouldn't have to be "suffered". Hell I wouldn't spend a coin on a helmet I had to suffer with let alone the $500-700 that they retail for.
Seems like these days the lower end lids have some of the best graphic designs. I especially like some of the SPARX helmets. They also get excellent reviews and the specs are impressive for a low cost helmet:
5 year limited warranty against manufacturer defects.
Crashed helmet program. (They replace it for free!!)
Meets or exceeds both DOT and ECE2205 standards.
Integrated ear plug storage straps.
Lightweight thermocomposite shell construction.
In-visor Anti-fog ventilation system.
From fitted contour cheek pads.
True ventilation channels for optimum circulation around face.
Quick release tool-less ratchet system.
Really like the "retro" style ones:
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3051/2969444417_5d5e79a4e8_o.jpg)
Not a bad deal for under $120.00 IMHO
Different strokes...
I love my over-the-top, anime-inspired, super-flashy helmet. You can all keep your subtle boring paint schemes [laugh]
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/0703/aprilmaybe/gear/deathfromabovejsp.jpg)
I also hate having the same helmet as everyone else, so the more variety the better. I would totally wear the white Suomy with the flames and flowers that someone dissed upthread. It was actually on my list but the Spec 1R isn't the best fit for me.
Quote from: COWBOY on October 24, 2008, 01:45:27 PM
That's the point TOP was making.
Some would like a non solid helmet that wouldn't have to be "suffered". Hell I wouldn't spend a coin on a helmet I had to suffer with let alone the $500-700 that they retail for.
I guess the big smiley at the end didn't convey my sarcasm well enough.
I like my flashy helmet.
I was commenting on the prices quoted in the previous post for repaints.
Beauty is in the eye of the beholder ;D
+1 to the Sparx.
I'm really not into the busy-looking helmets and they've got some nice uncluttered designs. Of course they've got one with a giant bumble bee on the side, too.
Their "crashed helmet policy" is pretty sweet, too. I crashed wearing a Retro Classic.
(http://www.kneedraggers.com/image_storage/e/6c/e6ce28c04981779b5278c719b653a10e_refined.jpg)
I boxed it up, sent it and a copy of the police report in, wrote them a note asking to ship me a Retro Corsa,
(http://www.kneedraggers.com/image_storage/d/53/d53a6f3f577a6c5efd47fd0103fa2cde_refined.jpg)
and 2 weeks later one showed up in the mail. I didn't even have to pay for shipping on the new helmet. [thumbsup]
If they fit your head, and they fit mine really well, they're a decent helmet and the company stands by their product.
Quote from: ducpainter on October 24, 2008, 03:16:24 PM
I guess the big smiley at the end didn't convey my sarcasm well enough.
I like my flashy helmet.
I was commenting on the prices quoted in the previous post for repaints.
We agree that spending 500-1000 to paint your own helmet is too much.
We also agree on flashy helmets. I only have one solid (my black x-11). my others are both reps (Shoei Zemke yellow and a Shark Foggy Legend). 3 others I liked and couldn't find at a good enough price point were the Duhammel white Rep, Arai Pedrosa and Shoei Rainey x-11 rep.
I guess we only disagree on the number of options the manus offer us.
Cheers.
Just read through the discussion on helmet designs.
I have to agree that for the most part the graphics look a little like tech-no-colour [puke]
I don't really like the graphics of my Arai, it was bought at a very good price and they just fit my head shape.
Currently I am waiting for this one to hit our shores.
(http://www.spaciobiker.com/tienda/images/MOMO%20DEVIL1.jpg)
(http://hellforleathermagazine.com/images/Momo-Devil.jpg)
I realize that this is a topic on helmet paint schemes (and everyones opinions on them), but you can just as easily fugly up a helmet with a bad choice of liner. I tore the cheek pad out of my black Scorpion with dark tinted visor and had to take what the local Scorpion dealer had to fit for a short period of time a.k.a. Leopard print. I tried to convince myself that it screamed Italian pron star and the world would see me as such, but the week I waited for my grey replacements to be mailed sure was long. Maybe if I would have added a pink mohawk.
Quote from: aprilmaybe on October 24, 2008, 02:42:59 PM
Different strokes...
I love my over-the-top, anime-inspired, super-flashy helmet. You can all keep your subtle boring paint schemes [laugh]
I also hate having the same helmet as everyone else, so the more variety the better. I would totally wear the white Suomy with the flames and flowers that someone dissed upthread. It was actually on my list but the Spec 1R isn't the best fit for me.
+1
i happen to LoVe my helmet,
and don't really care who likes it or not.
but i do get a lot of compliments ;)
(http://i239.photobucket.com/albums/ff194/hires_melissa_photos/dimby/DSCN0081.jpg)
Quote from: mattyvas on October 25, 2008, 03:45:06 AM
Just read through the discussion on helmet designs.
I have to agree that for the most part the graphics look a little like tech-no-colour [puke]
I don't really like the graphics of my Arai, it was bought at a very good price and they just fit my head shape.
Currently I am waiting for this one to hit our shores.
(http://www.spaciobiker.com/tienda/images/MOMO%20DEVIL1.jpg)
(http://hellforleathermagazine.com/images/Momo-Devil.jpg)
Who makes that?
^^^^^ It's made by Momo
http://www.designerhelmets.com/prodlist.php?cat=Momo&prod=Devil (http://www.designerhelmets.com/prodlist.php?cat=Momo&prod=Devil)
Drooltastic stuff
Quote from: mattyvas on October 25, 2008, 03:45:06 AM
(http://www.spaciobiker.com/tienda/images/MOMO%20DEVIL1.jpg)
WANT
Quote from: Obsessed? on October 25, 2008, 02:31:58 PM
WANT
Right up to the point when this POS splits into parts as your head/face hits something [bang] NOT that I hope it does [thumbsup]
Even open face helmets get safety approvals - that's basically what this is, just with some face bling added [roll]
Just my 0.02 (and I agree on the fact that they look cool)
You raise a good point.
If they made the chin-bar an integral piece of the shell, it would be worth serious consideration.
Hmmm... Letter campaign? ??? ;)
I do agree, so I'm waiting until I can see one in shop.
The chin bar does seem to attach better than most of these style of helmets.
I do so love the way it looks though, that visor looks like it goes down past the chin bar and creates the entire front of the lid.
Glad you all appreciate it also.
I keep wondering about the aerodynamics of that helmet. It looks like it has the profile of a blade. What would happen if you turn your head at 120km/h (or more)? Momo helmets are mostly for scooters not sportbikes.
I like my Arai Retro Corsa Quantum II. I'll keep using it as long as possible. I have the $$$ to get a new one, but just can't find one I like.
(http://assets0.saferacer.com/images/P/81-5550_1_lg.gif)
(http://www.surfsidepowersports.com/acatalog/81-5560L.JPG)
Wish they had a street version [thumbsup]
(http://hellforleathermagazine.com/images/Fox_360SE_Explosion_helmet.jpg)
GAH! MY EYES! IT BURNS!
Quote from: DarkStaR on October 26, 2008, 05:09:23 PM
I like my Arai Retro Corsa Quantum II. I'll keep using it as long as possible. I have the $$$ to get a new one, but just can't find one I like.
(http://assets0.saferacer.com/images/P/81-5550_1_lg.gif)
(http://www.surfsidepowersports.com/acatalog/81-5560L.JPG)
That's a great looking Arai, I wish we had that graphic here.
There is something similar but it is a little darker than this version.
I had a Icon Mainframe matte black but was never happy with the comfort
Then I got a shoei rf-1000 Diabolic 1
Not too crazy but my wife was following me home from San Diego and she really liked the visibility of of the graphics
The brighter helmets catch the eye and seem a safer choice for me
Any advantage I can get on the road I'll take!
I couldnt find anything either, so I bought a joe Rocket, sanded off the paint job and painted it myself. Actually pretty proud of it for the first one ive done. Whuch you guy think? I cant take credit for the theme obviously, but for a simple design it gets a lot of comments.
(http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/984/img6188mc8.th.jpg) (http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6188mc8.jpg)(http://img381.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
(http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/5805/img6186ds7.th.jpg) (http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6186ds7.jpg)(http://img381.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
(http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/1872/img6185uw7.th.jpg) (http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6185uw7.jpg)(http://img381.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
(http://img88.imageshack.us/img88/1989/img6189wp3.th.jpg) (http://img88.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img6189wp3.jpg)(http://img88.imageshack.us/images/thpix.gif) (http://g.imageshack.us/thpix.php)
what can I say, I'm a sucker for the Ducati swag
(http://www.advancedmotorsports.com/v/vspfiles/photos/98291900-2.jpg)
I like some of Arai's simpler graphics, but then they put their badge on the helmet in 54 places! Jeez.
Quote from: R!cH on October 27, 2008, 03:32:47 PM
Wish they had a street version [thumbsup]
(http://hellforleathermagazine.com/images/Fox_360SE_Explosion_helmet.jpg)
You could find some 80's ski jacket and be dope [thumbsup]
(http://www.heatworld.com/img/upload/500x400/1000038011.jpg)
mitt
I cnat ssee yhe kevoardf annymorw...
:o [laugh]
Quote from: alfisti on October 27, 2008, 06:55:38 PM
I cnat ssee yhe kevoardf annymorw...
:o [laugh]
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
[clap]
Quote from: mattyvas on October 25, 2008, 03:45:06 AM
(http://www.spaciobiker.com/tienda/images/MOMO%20DEVIL1.jpg)
(http://www.soundtrackcollector.com/images/movie/large/Battle_of_the_Planets.jpg)
I was thinking more along the lines of...
(http://www.z3btr0n.com/images/blogger/cobra_commander.jpg)
Quote from: Obsessed? on October 28, 2008, 07:40:08 AM
I was thinking more along the lines of...
(http://www.z3btr0n.com/images/blogger/cobra_commander.jpg)
Do you think that's an anti-fog visor? I don't see any vents either.
stickers from here would be cool. I'd sand the new helmet, tastefully apply a sticker or two, and paint checkerboard for drama. Clear coat it, and it's done. When's the board bling coming so we can do this?
Quote from: lauramonster on October 28, 2008, 11:01:19 AM
stickers from here would be cool. I'd sand the new helmet, tastefully apply a sticker or two, and paint checkerboard for drama. Clear coat it, and it's done. When's the board bling coming so we can do this?
T-shirts are ordered....
still waiting on pricing on decals from a second source.
This is what I want....monsters all over!! [thumbsup] But alas, only the under 12 set can wear this helmet, youth sizes only. :(
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk65/mcgalinmd/e044_1.jpg)
Quote from: mcgalinmd on October 28, 2008, 01:24:58 PM
This is what I want....monsters all over!! [thumbsup] But alas, only the under 12 set can wear this helmet, youth sizes only. :(
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk65/mcgalinmd/e044_1.jpg)
I wonder why [roll]
I think the differences in Japanese styled helmets are because they are thousands of miles away and their likes and dislikes have evolved differently from here in the U.S.. I also dislike their type of style and graphic designs which also carries over into their bike finishes. I own a plain black Arai rx-7 helmet.
Like most of you I have noticed an increase in graphic design helmets and can imagine the helmet companies soon using a U.S. based design team like the Japanese car makers use. Toyota is designing in So. California and to me their cars are looking less plain and more of what U.S. buyers are wanting.
just my .02
Dan
Here's one for Capo! ;D
(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn327/supakpow/fire20helmets20019.jpg)
Race replica helmets don't have to be so messy. Take a look at some of the designs from the eighties like Freddie Spencer's, Eddie Lawson's Marlboro Bell lid, Schwantz's original, Joey Dunlop's magnificent yellow design, Wayne Gardner's Shoei, even a Wes Cooley would be a refreshing change. Randy Mamaola's AGV design has been ruined by Arai. Until they stop doing designs that look like my son has been let loose with a set of crayons, I'll stick with my titanium RX7RR.
Quote from: supakpow2 on October 28, 2008, 05:53:36 PM
Here's one for Capo! ;D
(http://i320.photobucket.com/albums/nn327/supakpow/fire20helmets20019.jpg)
Thats it, been thinking about a design for my helmet ;D
thanks ducpainter for the update!! Didn't mean to sound testy - the people doing the work want the bling just as bad as we do. Maybe I'll leave room on the helmet and finish it after the stickers come in.
danaid - that's a good point!! cultural differences do translate!
Quote from: lauramonster on October 29, 2008, 10:02:38 AM
thanks ducpainter for the update!! Didn't mean to sound testy - the people doing the work want the bling just as bad as we do. Maybe I'll leave room on the helmet and finish it after the stickers come in.
Didn't come across, nor did I take it as testy. ;)
Since Capo didn't seeming like the monster helmet (we ride monsters, right?), i've got a few more that are pretty neat. If you ever get a change go look at Shark's european line, FM helmets from England or Vemar helmets european line. All their helmet graphics don't make it here - and what a shame. I've included some below. If I had unlimited Euros at my disposal, i'd have some or all of these to either wear or display. The europeans are a little more lighthearted it seems?? [thumbsup]
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk65/mcgalinmd/vdjpg_jpg1_g.jpg)
for the gals in the group
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk65/mcgalinmd/Vemar_VSREV_Italy.jpg)
us italian lovers
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk65/mcgalinmd/rrback.jpg)
roadrunner and coyote always a favorite
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk65/mcgalinmd/w10taz2.jpg)
tazmanian devil - remember the cartoons of the 70's and 80's?
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk65/mcgalinmd/e6d5_1.jpg)
my ALL TIME FAVORITE :)
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk65/mcgalinmd/Features_12-Features_30_ove.gif)
tweety and sylvester
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk65/mcgalinmd/Airsmiley.jpg)
for yellow duc lovers or when I had my TL or honda 599
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk65/mcgalinmd/Features_12-Features_11_ove.gif)
tom and jerry - the pool table episode is the best!
(http://i277.photobucket.com/albums/kk65/mcgalinmd/big_w10_tombraider2.gif)
tomb raider fans?
Enjoy!! [moto]
There's a local place here that designs & paints helmets. The designs are pretty loud, but I kind of like them.
http://www.censportgfx.com/gallery.html (http://www.censportgfx.com/gallery.html)
The red/white "BWHIP" was looking very good IMO [moto]
+1 those censport helmets looked good. If only I had an extra 1000 laying around....
Quote from: COWBOY on October 29, 2008, 04:57:33 PM
+1 those censport helmets looked good. If only I had an extra 1000 laying around....
My head isn't worth $1700
Quote from: stopintime on October 29, 2008, 03:44:21 PM
The red/white "BWHIP" was looking very good IMO [moto]
Bwhip's bike was painted by the same guy: http://forums.13x.com/showthread.php?t=192026
Quote from: ducpainter on October 29, 2008, 05:01:44 PM
My head isn't worth $1700
So he uses that "magic" paint that makes the helmet collision proof. I'd pay an extra grand for that.
;D
Nate, do you ride with a custom painted helmet?
See, helmets are good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqoHdabyp9g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqoHdabyp9g)
Wait until he dad goes to take the bike out for a ride [laugh]
Quote from: 804monster on October 29, 2008, 08:50:06 PM
Nate, do you ride with a custom painted helmet?
No...
I wear an Arai RX7-RR.
Youichi Ui replica.
I need a new one.
I've been trying helmets and it still seems the Arai fits best.
Quote from: Munch on October 29, 2008, 08:52:06 PM
See, helmets are good:
Apparently sometimes Darwin needs a little help.
Quote from: Munch on October 29, 2008, 08:52:06 PM
See, helmets are good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqoHdabyp9g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqoHdabyp9g)
can I take a swing?
Quote from: ducpainter on October 30, 2008, 05:46:11 AM
can I take a swing?
pssssst..... the line is over here ;D
Quote from: Munch on October 29, 2008, 08:52:06 PM
See, helmets are good:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqoHdabyp9g (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqoHdabyp9g)
why did he wait until the end to tell us there's no point to the video? Guess I shoulda guessed...