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Title: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: Lukey on October 30, 2008, 02:05:29 PM
Brit mags are written by the English who, unlike writers in American mags, know how to use the ENGLISH freakin' language...imagine that!

Brits really are more passionate about bikes.

Brits have tremendously clever wit and prefer self-abasing humor which sure beats American pedantic-poopie-pants humor.

Brit mags are expensive partly because of shipping but also because they have next to no advertising, which is a real plus.

That said...I haven't been able to find BIKE magazine at Barnes and Noble or Borders for a couple of months...is this just local or is there a problem with the mag?
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: Manx on October 30, 2008, 02:10:57 PM
Bike mag is still being churned out here in the UK.
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: thejsnide on October 30, 2008, 02:43:58 PM
hmmm... I just picked up the latest copy of BIKE @ a South Carolina B & N yesterday.  It took me about 15 minutes to find though because it was concealed way in the back row... which is crazy for a $10 mag.
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: Monster on October 30, 2008, 02:53:31 PM
Have always like BIKE magazine.  They take a more unbiased view towards motoring.  Might have somethin to do with the lower advert $.
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: Jarvicious on October 30, 2008, 02:57:20 PM
It's been a couple of weeks, but I definitely just read a copy of Bike at B & N.  Keep digging.
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: Jetbrett on October 30, 2008, 03:07:35 PM
+1.  I love the Brit mags.   [thumbsup] Great articles, good information, etc.  Plus, adds a the back of Superbike (I think that's the name) are a riot.  I've got to ask, what is the deal with the Brits and the whole dirty grandma thing? [beer]
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: m1moto on October 30, 2008, 05:03:30 PM

Another one of my favorite Brit mags is PB. http://www.performancebikes.co.uk/ (http://www.performancebikes.co.uk/)
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: AndrewNS on October 30, 2008, 05:19:18 PM
or T.W.O.
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: JohnnyDucati on October 30, 2008, 05:36:18 PM
Quote from: Lukey on October 30, 2008, 02:05:29 PM
Brit mags are written by the English who, unlike writers in American mags, know how to use the ENGLISH freakin' language...imagine that!

Brits really are more passionate about bikes.

Brits have tremendously clever wit and prefer self-abasing humor which sure beats American pedantic-poopie-pants humor.

Brit mags are expensive partly because of shipping but also because they have next to no advertising, which is a real plus.

That said...I haven't been able to find BIKE magazine at Barnes and Noble or Borders for a couple of months...is this just local or is there a problem with the mag?

I think it's a local thing, depending on which mags the bookstore chooses to carry.  Try another bookstore if you can.

Hate to admit, but I'm a free loader - I go to the local book shop once a month or so and read through the current issue of Bike etc. and have a cup of joe.  I at least try to keep the coffee drips off the pages and I do put the magazine back on the rack when I'm done!   ;D

For sure, the Brits know and love their bikes and riding & mostly have pretty good street cred IMO.

Oh, and +1 on the humor thing.  After living in the UK for 3 years, I came to the realization that 'Monty Python' was actually a factual documentary series  [laugh].

J

Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: RodeoClown on October 30, 2008, 06:19:09 PM
http://www.superbike.co.uk/ (http://www.superbike.co.uk/)

Haven't read it in a while but I use to have a subscription. These guys were hilarious! The photos were great too, esp. the one in the center ;D
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: Rufus120 on October 30, 2008, 06:26:47 PM
They aren't scared to show boobies either  ;D
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: flanman on October 31, 2008, 03:48:25 PM
I'm trying to figure out between TWO, PB and BiKE which i like best i find myself buying all three and figure a subscription to one although pricey would be worth it.
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: lawbreaker on October 31, 2008, 08:37:08 PM
Since theres no price break for subscriptions to the Brit mags, I find myself doing the review before purchase thingy at the newsstands near my work before buying... ALL of them anyway!

Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: Capo on October 31, 2008, 09:45:10 PM
Interesting.
I don't think they are half as good as the 'old' days, the standard of 'English' has deteriorated somewhat.
Cycle World (or was it Cycle) in the days of Kevin Cameron was good.
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: zarn02 on October 31, 2008, 10:05:22 PM
i found that after i picked up T.W.O. and read a copy, i started buying it, and stopped by american rags.

it's so much better that it makes it somewhat irksome to read the stateside publications.
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: scoprire on November 01, 2008, 02:55:01 PM
So it's not just me then; I pick up BIKE and TWO.  Sometimes PB if something looks good.  one US mag I get is when a friend trades me his CycleWorld for my read Brit mags.  The Brits aren't as worried about pissing off the companies that advertise w/ them; if something sucks... they say it sucks.

the local bookstore rarely gets the Brit mags by the 1st of the month; usually takes till at least the 3rd or 4th day of the month to be on the shelf.  In Oct, they didn't get TWO till about the 3rd WEEK of the month.  And my BIKE subscription was delivered till about then.  I'm guessing some kind of shipping/customs slowdown, but they are still making it here.
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: Greg on November 01, 2008, 03:04:56 PM
Does Bike magazine still have OGRI in the back?
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: AndrewNS on November 01, 2008, 04:28:35 PM
Last Issue I bought it still did (back in either August or September).
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: flanman on November 02, 2008, 03:53:38 AM
Quote from: SA_S2R on November 01, 2008, 03:04:56 PM
Does Bike magazine still have OGRI in the back?
Yeah they still have it, a couple issues back they had a story inside about it.
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: Greg on November 02, 2008, 05:03:27 AM
Quote from: flanman on November 02, 2008, 03:53:38 AM
Yeah they still have it, a couple issues back they had a story inside about it.

Amazing - I think the last issue of Bike I read was when I was in College 28 years ago in England. Glad to see Ogri and Malcom are still around.
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: ducatiz on November 02, 2008, 07:05:25 AM
Part of the problem is the bike companies' US offices.

They will pull advertising if a US mag writes a shitty review of a bike. 

Superbike UK is awesome.  They will actually say "it sucks" when a bike sucks.  They lost HD's advertising when they did a negative review of HD's bike.  THey say "who cares?! you're a bunch of make the beast with two backswits!"

Bike companies need to suck it up and realize that they are going to get negative reviews now and then.  Maybe if they listen to the reviews they'll make better bikes.

Also, the US magazine market is much bigger than the UK, so an advertiser can dump one mag for another.  Or someone will start a new one.  It makes hte magazines so bland -- they appeal to the lowest common denominator.

Outlaw Biker is my favorite US mag.  Only because of the attitude.

Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: Lukey on November 02, 2008, 02:48:28 PM
Quote from: zarn02 on October 31, 2008, 10:05:22 PM
i found that after i picked up T.W.O. and read a copy, i started buying it, and stopped by american rags.

it's so much better that it makes it somewhat irksome to read the stateside publications.

Amen to that...I still grab an American mag now and then, based solely on the bike on the cover, but I usually can't read through a whole article...the writing's just too mediocre.

After the Brit publishers bought the American mags, I noticed the locals trying to add some wit and some tongue-in-cheek irreverance to sound more British.  Sadly, much like pigs in lipsick, they weren't able to pull it off.
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: lemond on November 03, 2008, 10:19:11 AM
http://www.ccgdata.com/10sh-6.html (http://www.ccgdata.com/10sh-6.html), 20% off for PB and 30% off for Bike.
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: geoffduc on November 04, 2008, 09:05:31 AM
hi guys,
          over here in jolly old england the bike mags most of the time tell it as it is.i personally have a good look at the cover to see what write ups are inside before i buy.in april 2008 ride magazine there was a 10 page article on ducati monsters which i found very good and worth trying to get a back issue of.the one mag that i subscribe to is cycle world,peter egan and kevin cameron are worth the price of subscription on their own and WOW what a deal the price of subscription is.a magazine that i really enjoyed was italianbike but it went pop after just 9 issue's so i don't what happened there. [coffee]
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: Lukey on November 04, 2008, 12:00:37 PM
One of the mags, I'm pretty sure it's BIKE, gave a bad review to the stock (as opposed to S version) 1098, saying it wasn't nearly as good as the S.  The next issue, they reported that Ducati punished them for it by withdrawing all advertising, but that the mag stood by its review.  That's worth the price of admission.  And it just makes Ducati look like fools.
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: ducatiz on November 04, 2008, 01:42:27 PM
Quote from: Lukey on November 04, 2008, 12:00:37 PM
One of the mags, I'm pretty sure it's BIKE, gave a bad review to the stock (as opposed to S version) 1098, saying it wasn't nearly as good as the S.  The next issue, they reported that Ducati attempted to punish them for it by withdrawing all advertising, but that the mag stood by its review.  That's worth the price of admission.  And it just makes Ducati look like fools.

That would be Ducati NA, not Ducati MH. 

That is how American companies work, it's pathetic.  Ducati NA hasn't really shown they aren't above being dickheads now and then.
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: tufty on November 04, 2008, 01:59:24 PM
Quote from: Lukey on October 30, 2008, 02:05:29 PM
Brit mags are written by the English who, unlike writers in American mags, know how to use the ENGLISH freakin' language...imagine that!

Brits really are more passionate about bikes.

Brits have tremendously clever wit and prefer self-abasing humor which sure beats American pedantic-poopie-pants humor.

Brit mags are expensive partly because of shipping but also because they have next to no advertising, which is a real plus.

That said...I haven't been able to find BIKE magazine at Barnes and Noble or Borders for a couple of months...is this just local or is there a problem with the mag?

They're also universally biased towards jap 4 bangers and horsepower. Not as bad as Kent Kunitsugu (sp), but still pretty one sided.
T.W.O. or Bike are the best IMO.

P.S. I'm a limey so I'm allowed. ;D
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: flanman on November 07, 2008, 02:11:56 PM
Off topic but I picked up a copy of Robb Report Motorcycling. Usually i flip through it because they have some interesting customs and higher end bikes. The content never really is any good but this last issue took bad to a whole new level. They are focusing even more on the ritzy rich aspect and are way too upper crust orrientated. they had a story (not just an add) on designer jewlery as a fasion statement followed by a review of a custom vehicle to haul all your bike stuff.
Title: Re: On the subject of British motorcycle magazines
Post by: Lukey on November 07, 2008, 11:05:07 PM
Proving that fools and their money...fill in the blank.