I just heard news that Girlrider (Maria) was hit by a car that blew a red light today shortly after leaving AMS Dallas.
She may/may not be critical: Unknown
The bike is totaled.
I think Cher is digging for more info as I write this.
If anyone else has any other info please keep the DFW-MF'ers updated.
Thanks.
Yep, just got off the phone with Rosa at AMS-D: Maria is in stable condition at Parkland. No other details available. Anyone know what Maria's last name is?
EDIT: Maria's last name is Sproul. I was thinking of calling the hospital to see if she's been moved to a room, or if I could maybe get more details n her condition but then I remembered hospitals can't tell you anything. Which is O.K. but...
I'm pretty sure all of Maria's folks are out of state so if anyone else around her gets some pertinent info, please make sure and post.
Gahh! that sucks. Peter at MotoLiberty knows her as does Keith (IZ_keith). They might have her info.
Thanks for posting that info Rich. After the other mornings exchange of words, that's good of you. [thumbsup]
dammit - Hope Maria will be OK - thanks for the update Lisa - please let us know what else you find out and if there is anything we can do to help.
:'( Wow this is terrible !! I ride in that area almost every day because my studio is over there.
Poor kid - to be blindsided like that - if anyone finds out a way to help or comfort Maria I would like to contribute to that effort. Guess all you can do now is make whatever cosmic appeal you deem appropriate - think I'll say a prayer ! :'(
Quote from: Cher on November 08, 2008, 11:16:11 AM
Yep, just got off the phone with Rosa at AMS-D: Maria is in stable condition at Parkland. No other details available. Anyone know what Maria's last name is?
EDIT: Maria's last name is Sproul. I was thinking of calling the hospital to see if she's been moved to a room, or if I could maybe get more details n her condition but then I remembered hospitals can't tell you anything. Which is O.K. but...
I'm pretty sure all of Maria's folks are out of state so if anyone else around her gets some pertinent info, please make sure and post.
hope she pulls through and recovers fully, my well wishes.
if there's anything I can do please let me know as I work from home during the week if I'm not traveling.
Our prayers are with her!! Please keep updating this thread, so we can track her progress!
You know, more than anything this pisses me off!! If they can catch someone running a light on yellow and have that hand out in three days for you to cough up $150.00 to the state coffiers, then why the hell can the state not put into effect a system that detects someone running a light and causing.an accident like this?
At the same time making an avoidance system for us.!
Got carried away I suppose, but I just hate to see people as defenseless as MC riders have no consideration. Truely it was an accident but I'd like to see some technology come out that could help us.
Really sorry this happened Maria and all my hopes and prayers are with you for a fast and full recovery. Hope to meet you soon!
Any updates?
d@mn.... no bueno :(
maria get well and we all hope to see you again.
that's bad!! :-\
This is a terrible thing. Wish there were something I could do. Wishing her the speediest of recoveries.
DAmn that sucks... I hope that she gets better...
She left in an ambulance about the time that Scott from AMS/D got to the scene. An AMS customer had been at AMS when she was there and came upon the accident scene and called AMS. The f#@kers that ran the red light luckily stopped but they had no insurance... gee, what a surprise! She apparently had a hurt wrist, that was the only thing obvious so far according to what Scott found out at the scene.
Now the shitty part. The only reason she was there was to pick up my CRG mirrors and bar end adapters that I posted up for sale. We were going to meet on bikes at AMS, do the swap and maybe ride to lunch afterwards. Yesterday I had to bow out because I forgot that I had promised to split a cord of firewood with a friend and today at lunch was the only time this weekend he could do it. I dropped off the mirrors yesterday with Scott for him to give them to Maria today. :P Major bummer. Really messed up karma going on here.
I'll stay posted for more details. Thanks for all the info so far. I know she's a good friend of Keith so maybe she will get in touch with him and he will let us know something. She has my email and cell # but I bet she's a little busy right now! Lisa already found out her last name... that would be about all I could contribute at this time. I assume Scott somehow took care of her bike and got it back to AMS.
Be careful out there folks! Dumbass drivers by the 1000s that want to kill us all. Thank goodness she's not seriously hurt... hopefully.
Sure sounds like no serious injuries :) Get well soon.
Since I have been around, Whitecat has gotten the worst is up a walking [clap] Could be a lot worse.
Wishing Maria the best! heal fast girl! Sorry about your bike!
Maria, I'm so sad to hear about this but we're thinking about you and wishing you a speedy recovery! (Stoopid cage driver... I hope you came up swinging [evil] )
Does anyone know for a fact that she went to Parkland? A real, confirmed hospital location would be a great start.
Quote from: fastwin on November 08, 2008, 04:27:00 PM
Does anyone know for a fact that she went to Parkland? A real, confirmed hospital location would be a great start.
When I called Rosa at AMS-D at 1:00 this afternoon, she said Maria "was at Parkland and in stable condition."
Quote from: Cher on November 08, 2008, 04:45:44 PM
When I called Rosa at AMS-D at 1:00 this afternoon, she said Maria "was at Parkland and in stable condition."
Wow I feel for her, this sux - thanks for keeping information coming !
OK, great news!! All is well, sort of. I PM'd Keith for him to call me if he knew anything and 2 minutes later he called from Maria's house. She is OK, her wrist hurts like hell but she has movement. They x-rayed it but due to swelling they could not tell if it was cracked. Certainly not severely broken. She is to go back in a week after the swelling subsides for more x-rays to make sure.
She remembers the car turning in front of her and hitting it and doing a "Flying Wallenda" trapeze act over the hood of the car and doing a tuck and roll onto the ground. Apparently the man driving and his family got out and were very concerned about her and were very upset at his mistake. Nice to hear for a change.
The bike is totaled. Major frame crack up near the head tubes and lots of other big dollar damage. Main thing is she is at home, no worse for wear, proud to take a beating and keep on ticking and in good spirits!! All very good news. I'll let her tell the rest! Whew, another close one! Be careful out there. [thumbsup]
Holy crap!
I just caught up on this thread. I'm glad to hear that Maria isn't hurt too bad.
Thanks for the update Brian. Glad to hear things are relatively ok. Nothing worse than hearing about a motorcyclist going down, let alone one of your own.
Hope you're wrist starts feeling better soon Maria. Outlook good! [thumbsup]
Really glad you are mostly OK - Maria [thumbsup] - so sorry about the bike though. :'(
Sorry for the crash, heres to a speedy recovery!!
Glad to hear Maria will be fine. On the bright side, now is a great time to be shopping for a new Monster [thumbsup] with the end of year clearance deals or maybe an SBK?? Heal up quick Maria and get back in the saddle.
Awesome news, Brian. Thanks for the update. Glad she's at home at least [thumbsup]
Hope you're well enough to post soon, Maria. Hang in there [thumbsup]
Quote from: Cher on November 08, 2008, 05:54:20 PM
Awesome news, Brian. Thanks for the update. Glad she's at home at least [thumbsup]
Hope you're well enough to post soon, Maria. Hang in there [thumbsup]
+1 [thumbsup] [moto]
I am seriously glad to be sharing good news. Very worried, as you all were. We have all been very lucky, very lucky. Me, Maria, Rich, Bryant, Alan, Cory, Marquess,... the list goes on too damn long. Not even counting the track day nonsense. Enough is enough. It is a f#@king combat zone out there, even without the autos! Can we please start putting together some big and small group rides without incidents? I am really tired of my friends going down and buggering up their bikes. The odds are someone will eventually get hurt real bad, much worse than me, and I just don't want to see that.
I guess it's the protective old fart coming out in me. But it's all based on good intentions. Please, please be careful. Track day, city street, country ride or not. The odds seem to against us and I would seriously like to change that. [thumbsup] [moto] Heads up folks, please!
Quote from: fastwin on November 08, 2008, 06:37:30 PM
I am seriously glad to be sharing good news. Very worried, as you all were. We have all been very lucky, very lucky. Me, Maria, Rich, Bryant, Alan, Cory, Marquess,... the list goes on too damn long. Not even counting the track day nonsense. Enough is enough. It is a f#@king combat zone out there, even without the autos! Can we please start putting together some big and small group rides without incidents? I am really tired of my friends going down and buggering up their bikes. The odds are someone will eventually get hurt real bad, much worse than me, and I just don't want to see that.
I guess it's the protective old fart coming out in me. But it's all based on good intentions. Please, please be careful. Track day, city street, country ride or not. The odds seem to against us and I would seriously like to change that. [thumbsup] [moto] Heads up folks, please!
+1
Heal up, Maria. Hope they aren't too stingy with the painkillers.
glad to hear there is minimal trauma [thumbsup] Stay safe all!
So sorry that you were in an accident and about the bike being wrecked. Glad you're at home and not more seriously injured. Heal up quick and hope we'll see you soon.
cdc
Heal up Maria, glad you were able to walk away. [thumbsup]
So sorry to hear this.. hope you feel better Maria. Please let me know if I can do anything..
If they gave you a splint or brace to wear on your wrist, make sure to keep it on. The cursed navicular bone may not show it is fractured for days after an accident. It is a poorly healing little bone in the wrist part of the hand. You want to keep the joint immobilized as much as possible until a final determination has been made about whether it is broken or not. Don't ask me how I know and how I got a second chance to know. Glad you are OK overall.
Just noticed this thread... Maria, I hope you heal fully and quickly.
Just saw this also, while maria is recovering, with he injured wrist, it would be helpful to get a cadre of attractive men to assist with sponge baths and the like. Sadly, my wife will not allow me to participate....
Who's stepping up to help an injured rider? Please pm photos to maria for pre-screening...
Quote from: The Svoloch on November 09, 2008, 11:47:49 AM
Just saw this also, while maria is recovering, with he injured wrist, it would be helpful to get a cadre of attractive men to assist with sponge baths and the like. Sadly, my wife will not allow me to participate....
Who's stepping up to help an injured rider? Please pm photos to maria for pre-screening...
:'( :'( :'( unattractive mangs have needs too you know.. :'( :'( :'(
cdc
Quote from: cdc on November 09, 2008, 01:47:54 PM
:'( :'( :'( unattractive mangs have needs too you know.. :'( :'( :'(
cdc
jiffy
Quote from: The Svoloch on November 09, 2008, 11:47:49 AM
Just saw this also, while maria is recovering, with he injured wrist, it would be helpful to get a cadre of attractive men to assist with sponge baths and the like. Sadly, my wife will not allow me to participate....
Who's stepping up to help an injured rider? Please pm photos to maria for pre-screening...
I'm engaged, does that count as not married yet?
All kidding aside Maria, get well soon. We need another Tangerine and Black Duc in town. If you get another one and Kevin fixes his we'll be three [cheeky]
Get well Maria! I hate to see this kind of thing happen. At least she's mobile and in decent shape!
I've told the lady, that I swear darn near everyone in this group has totaled their bike, or been down in the past year or so. Those that I have met anyhow. I keep wondering when its gonna be my turn. I'm not sure how this stuff goes, but we have seriously got to quit dumping our bikes and getting hurt... at fault, or not at fault. Every new person that goes down makes the lady want to take away my keys more and more. :-\
wow...this is not cool at all. very sorry to hear about this, maria. sounds like you must have tucked and rolled very expertly to have come out of this with just wrist soreness (not that that doesn't suck ass). but let us know if you need anything... next meal at the old monk is on us [thumbsup]
heal up soon!
Sad to hear about the wreck. Happy to hear you came out ok.
Rest up and heal up.
J
Wow! :o I've been so busy studying that I haven't been reading the boards. [bang]
So sorry to hear about this incident, but at the same time, I'm very happy that Girlrider is doing fine. Heal well Girlrider! Let me know when you decide to purchase another bike. I planning another purchase sometime in the next few months. :) Let's go shopping when you feel better. [moto] Did you read about the new Monster 1100? ;D
Hey everyone and thanks for all of the prayers for Maria. Sorry I haven't been able to post up sooner, but I know she is very sore but in good (and thankful) spirits. The emergency crew, witnesses, AMS-D, Parkland staff deserve kudos for their outstanding attention and care. Also, Kudos for Maria's riding skill and gear. Although we all know she was being watched over from above, gear made the difference between getting home by 5pm after walking out on her own and who knows what else. She braked significantly and let go of the handle bars upon impact, which I am sure saved her from more broken bones.
A witness I spoke to Saturday night said she landed flat on her back and apparently the impact to the back of the helmet was enough to make the chin vent on her Arai pop out and of course, one of those damn side pods came off, but they are the achilles heel of the Arai line anyway. A noted Arai expert (aka Pete at Motoliberty) said it would take a pretty good hit to make the chin out. The bike, well I wouldn't say the frame is cracked, more like broken as there is a half inch gap between the two tubes and the stem tube and the front fender is dented where it hit the oil cooler.
On a lighter note - there was a slight breeze on Saturday and if it hadn't been for that, she would have landed on her feet for the "tada" moment. I think watching back to back Dirty Harry movies Saturday night helped her feel a bit better, but I know she was visited by the achy bruise monster yesterday and could always use 3 or 4 men around the house to help out. :D
Quote from: fastwin on November 08, 2008, 02:53:06 PM
The only reason she was there was to pick up my CRG mirrors and bar end adapters
but she was delayed at my yard sale, otherwise she would have been home an hour earlier! The CRG's made it through without a scratch -she had them in the front of her jacket, which is why she made every effort to land on her feet or back [cheeky] I believe they are back on the market and they command a higher price because they now have a story behind them!
Yep, those mirrors have just gone up in price due to their notoriety and current fame!! [laugh] Let's see what Maria gets next, she still might be able to use them. [moto] [clap]
Ouch, Maria, I just realized I never responded to your email about the police report! S#@t! Sorry, I'll look into tomorrow if you still need me to. In my best Italian mob accent, "I knowz a guy who knowz a guy". [wine]
Hi - typing one handed so forgive the mistakes. Wow - what an outpouring of concern and affection! Thank you all for your love. Every day is better - although today I realize my pretty teeth are sore bc I must have chomped down hard at some point! I was pretty freaked out in the trauma ward bc I kept asking "how bad am I?" and the doctors all huddle and whisper on the side corners but they would run tests and turn and say "its okay honey that was good test". Also numerous male nurses and a chief of staff that all ride motorcycles kept coming in to hold my hand (I might have been crying) and tellme and everyone else "she was wearing gear, she was wearing gear."
Keith found me a few hours into the examination and stayed with me through discharge. I cannot tell you how sweet the air smelled when I got out of Parkland. Pete and Susan Gould then got to my hp\ouse and they all babied me and didnt leave until past midnight - I kept asking them if "I was going to die in my sleep?" and didnt want to fall asleep - I'm not ki'ddi'ng it was such a close call.
I'm on with Foremos Insurance and they will get with AMS today.
All my love - ps - personal email is maria.a.sproul@verizonbusiness.com
Good to hear you are okay and great to see you are able to post.
Here's to a speedy recovery.
Good Lord, I have missed some important happenings.
Maria, I'm glad to hear that you're OK. The world would definitely be a darker place without your humor. Get well soon.
Joseph
Thank you all - I spent the day doing the Doctor rounds and now have a manageable splint on my right wrist so typing is not as tragic! Interesting things I have learned:
1. The insurance investigator asks "do you have an MC on your license?" and I answer "If you mean am I licensed to pilot a Motorcycle, YES, and I do hope that Foremost is asking these questions out of concern for me and not your pocketbook." In effect, my analysis is that they would not pay off on anything if I wasn't officially licensed!
2. I always wondered why my policy seemed so high compared to others when swapping insurance information with friends. Well, come to find out I am covered up the Whazoo. I have Uninsured coverage to $100k for all out of pocket and pain and suffering, and I also have a neat clause where because I bought the bike new, had it insured with them from day one, and am original owner under 24 months (I got it in Feb 2007) well guess what? They have to replace the bike - yessiree, all of it. They have to give me a brand new S2R 800 - oh wait guess what they don't make that anymore! So, it will be interesting to see what they come up with, but at the least I do not have to settle for blue book values with depreciation.
So to all my smart Ducatisti friends on this board, let my hard earned lessons help you make solid decisions. And oh yes, thank god for Arai helmets that are worn correctly and constantly because I wouldn't be making any sense right now if it wasn't for that baby.
Love,
M
Glad to hear you are ok and doing better. :)
Outstanding news that you are fine and getting a new bike through your insurance! So, when are we all going shopping for a new toy?
Are you planning to go to the Motorcycle show this weekend? I'll be taking the Dart rail from the Parker station if anyone else is comming from Plano. PM me if interested and we can ride there together via rail. :)
Awesome news Maria! [moto]
Maria, that is really great news about you and your bike. Thanks for the update! It is also really cool you plan on still riding a street bike - getting right back on the $&#@ing thing, in fact.
Girl, you rock [bow_down]
Now, when are we shopping for new gear and bikes? [evil]
Quote from: Girlrider on November 13, 2008, 06:27:43 AM
So to all my smart Ducatisti friends on this board, let my hard earned lessons help you make solid decisions. And oh yes, thank god for Arai helmets that are worn correctly and constantly because I wouldn't be making any sense right now if it wasn't for that baby.
whoa...wait. you've made sense in the past? where was i??
jk...glad to hear you're already starting to heal up... sore wrists are never fun i hear.... :o
and i'll be anxiously awaiting the outcome of your new ride!
Quote from: Girlrider on November 13, 2008, 06:27:43 AM
They have to give me a brand new S2R 800 - oh wait guess what they don't make that anymore! So, it will be interesting to see what they come up with, but at the least I do not have to settle for blue book values with depreciation.
I'm sure Jeff will help you build a case that a Monster 1100 or that last S4RS Tricolore with a full Arrow or Termi system is the "next closest thing" to the 800. [moto]
Maria, just take it easy and relax! Plenty of time to get a new ride!! I am just sooooo happy you are okay!!!
Quote from: IZ_keith on November 13, 2008, 08:03:58 AM
I'm sure Jeff will help you build a case that a Monster 1100 or that last S4RS Tricolore with a full Arrow or Termi system is the "next closest thing" to the 800. [moto]
great to see things progressing well and in your favor!
what about a new streetfighter??? ;D that's about the same right?
That Streetfighter is gorgeous, I have been glued to the video since sent to me by IZ_ Keith. It hits in March 09.
Everyone,
Another good nights sleep, but interestingly a different part of my body was registering complaints that I didn't know was hurt! So I am sure there will be a few more hiccups before I am 100%.
To all of this - Thank you for your love and concern. I will see you at Il Fratellis for lunch and Ducati Dallas for the fashion show.
Let's enjoy another beautiful fall day in Dallas.
Warmest regards,
Maria :-*
glad to see u r doing good Maria [thumbsup]
Mark at AMS just finished the damage estimate... drumroll please...
The worlds most expensive 2006 S2R 800...
$22,500.00
There isn't a part on the bike that wasn't destroyed, including the cylinder head.
Boy oh Boy, when I do something, I really really do something. [roll]
:o $22,500?!?! Damn, that's a LOT of new motorcyle [thumbsup]
Quote from: Girlrider on November 19, 2008, 03:27:43 PM
Mark at AMS just finished the damage estimate... drumroll please...
The worlds most expensive 2006 S2R 800...
$22,500.00
There isn't a part on the bike that wasn't destroyed, including the cylinder head.
Boy oh Boy, when I do something, I really really do something. [roll]
Damn! That's a hell of an insurance payoff.
That's cool though, that's the same price as the new 1198s with traction control that's coming out. *wink, wink*
Oh Contrare, That in no way is the insurance coverage. That number of $22.5k is the total amount of damage to the S2R. Given that is over 2X the amount to purchase a Monster, I think that the insurance company will consider my bike a total and discussions will commence on the policy coverage terms and conditions.
I take a slight bit of pride in having survived a crash that pretty much left every part of my bike crushed.
Ta Da,
M
Quote from: Girlrider on November 19, 2008, 06:46:55 PM
Oh Contrare, That in no way is the insurance coverage. That number of $22.5k is the total amount of damage to the S2R. Given that is over 2X the amount to purchase a Monster, I think that the insurance company will consider my bike a total and discussions will commence on the policy coverage terms and conditions.
I take a slight bit of pride in having survived a crash that pretty much left every part of my bike crushed.
Ta Da,
M
oh shit.. nevermind then....
Well crap, I feel stupid now...
how's the purple wrist coming along?
I believe there is something philosophical here.....if we value each and every one of our individual strengths, we soon realize that we are more than just another person or group posting on a forum...we are something much greater...yet it takes a major hit to cause us to pick apart what we have and assess the value of the individual parts.
Or is it my bad head cold that is making me think that? Some people make a living taking loosely based metaphors and applying them to everyday familiar situations...perhaps I have found my niche.
Quote from: IZ_keith on November 20, 2008, 08:49:13 AM
...we are something much greater...
We are a motorcycle gang.... and woe unto those who run before our business, for they will feel the full wrath of the espresso drinking, italian motorcycle driving, import beer drinking, 60$ ducati t-shirt wearing badasses that we are...
consider yourselves warned, evil-doers!!!!
[coffee]