i've seen/heard several clips that tried to demonstrate the sound of this new uneven firing order R1
...this one makes me want one (ok, more than i already did)
http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=35140 (http://roadracingworld.com/news/article/?article=35140)
That thing sounds sick...like it only has two cylinders. Wouldn't it have been a lot easier to just put a twin in there? ;D
It's a very interesting piece of kit and I actually really like it. If I were in the market for a sport bike, I'd certainly consider the new R1.
......Rossi's M1 still sounds better though ;D
Seriously, I have no interest in 1000s, but that makes my pants go crazy.
Quote from: darylbowden on December 09, 2008, 08:40:26 PM
Seriously, I have no interest in 1000s, but that makes my pants go crazy.
Would your pants go into orbit if they made an R6 with a 90-degree crank?
I'd bet money that the '10 R6 will be just that.
Quote from: Speeddog on December 10, 2008, 01:47:06 AM
Would your pants go into orbit if they made an R6 with a 90-degree crank?
I'd bet money that the '10 R6 will be just that.
are they taking deposits?! yamaha, take my money!! ;)
I'm with Daryl, it makes my pants feel funny.
I'd get one for the track if I wasn't deep down scared of 1000cc bikes. [bow_down]
What is the torque curve like with the big bang cycle?
More down low grunt or is it just a twin sound?
Regardless, it's bad ass!!
Torque curve shouldn't be much different from a conventional crank setup, other than it may not be possible to get the exhaust header to work quite as well.
they say it gives the engine a lot more mid-range while still keeping the I-4 top end.
i dunno. but that's what they say.
Is that the riders saying that, or the dyno guys?
'Cause that's kind of a free lunch deal...
i've read it about the GP bike and now this bike. but it's all "they"... so. i dunno. =)
i'm not entirely sure it really affects the power/torque in the way you'd think, more the delivery/power pulses.
it sounds like somebody jetted it really fat in the middle. ;D
here's the original article about this technology in last years' m1:
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2007/Dec/071217b.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2007/Dec/071217b.htm)
That's a very interesting article, thanks, Derb.
Gonna have to think about that for a while.
Quote from: Speeddog on December 10, 2008, 06:18:48 PM
That's a very interesting article, thanks, Derb.
Gonna have to think about that for a while.
some eye candy for ya, too:
(http://www.superbikeplanet.com/image/archive/08ymr1/crank.jpg)
omg i think i just jizzed in my pants [bow_down]
was considering a 1198 but i don't want to deal with the valve adj now
the new r1 just went to the top of my list of bikes to buy
i can't Waite to test ride this beast [moto]
Quote from: androgynous on December 11, 2008, 05:07:42 PM
was considering a 1198 but i don't want to deal with the valve adj now
the valve adjustment interval isn't that bad on the new generation Ducati motors...granted that it isn't simple and is more often than the current japanese offerings...but you have to consider that there is a whole new ball of wax of possible issues that dealers may run into with this new R1...I say let them shake it down for a year and let the bugs be found and worked out.
Quote from: zooom on December 12, 2008, 04:59:55 AM
the valve adjustment interval isn't that bad on the new generation Ducati motors...granted that it isn't simple and is more often than the current japanese offerings...but you have to consider that there is a whole new ball of wax of possible issues that dealers may run into with this new R1...I say let them shake it down for a year and let the bugs be found and worked out.
good point that's actually why i wanted to waite for the 1198 because i know that early ducati's will have electrical prob
but i guess waiting four year to purchase a new bike is makeing me want to jump on the the latest and greatest
the new r1 sound's so much like the M1 with the r1 screaming up top
and since i can't afford the d16rr I'm looking for the next best mogp derived machine
fingers crossed
Derby's link is a great tech piece for enginerds types.
Basically the perfectly balanced crank in in-line fours create so much inertial momentum at high rpms, that the rider can't tell what is engine reaction from throttle inputs versus natural crank inertia. The out of balance cranks, like they are running now, redistribute the output felt to be more from throttle and less inertia since they loose some inertia being out of balance.
I would wager a bet that Ducati also knew of this, but kept on with the big-bang tire story until one of the balanced teams figured it out to not let any tricks out of the bag.
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