http://www.cycletrader.com/find/listing/2004-Ducati-SUPERBIKE-999S-94235745 (http://www.cycletrader.com/find/listing/2004-Ducati-SUPERBIKE-999S-94235745)
if I didn't have a shower and wedding I'd be all over this.
Quote from: muskrat on December 17, 2008, 10:59:25 PM
http://www.cycletrader.com/find/listing/2004-Ducati-SUPERBIKE-999S-94235745 (http://www.cycletrader.com/find/listing/2004-Ducati-SUPERBIKE-999S-94235745)
if I didn't have a shower and wedding I'd be all over this.
Scam...
Quote from: El Matador on December 17, 2008, 11:11:53 PM
Scam...
Why? How much would you pay for a 04 999 ? :-X AMS sold a couple of those a year ago for 8k-9k .. private is a bit lower...
calling Red.
There is 999S with your name on it waiting at the Woodlands.
cdc
Quote from: El Matador on December 17, 2008, 11:11:53 PM
Scam...
damn... If ONLY we knew someone near the Woodlands who could check it out... :P
Quote from: L'Avatar D'Jour on December 18, 2008, 03:53:43 PM
damn... If ONLY we knew someone near the Woodlands who could check it out... :P
without getting shot at ! [thumbsup] [beer] [bacon]
Road trip!!!
Quote from: giannis on December 18, 2008, 02:25:14 PM
Why? How much would you pay for a 04 999 ? :-X AMS sold a couple of those a year ago for 8k-9k .. private is a bit lower...
5K for the bike with the full ohlins in "perfect" condition? The suspension alone is worth about that much.
Quote from: L'Avatar D'Jour on December 18, 2008, 03:53:43 PM
damn... If ONLY we knew someone near the Woodlands who could check it out... :P
If it's still here when I come back in jan, i'll most definitely check it out [thumbsup]
Quote from: El Matador on December 18, 2008, 04:06:27 PM
5K for the bike with the full ohlins in "perfect" condition? The suspension alone is worth about that much.
Yep, but you can get an '08 1098s in great shape still in warranty for 14...
Quote from: L'Avatar D'Jour on December 18, 2008, 04:09:17 PM
Yep, but you can get an '08 1098s in great shape still in warranty for 14...
An SP if I ever saw one. ;D
cdc
Quote from: El Matador on December 18, 2008, 04:06:27 PM
5K for the bike with the full ohlins in "perfect" condition? The suspension alone is worth about that much.
If it's still here when I come back in jan, i'll most definitely check it out [thumbsup]
I didnt see nowhere Ohlins on this bike other than the damper ... And is a base 999 not S...
And the guy has a phone.... Scams usally say, ill ship the bike from UK/Germany etc
Quote from: giannis on December 18, 2008, 08:20:17 PM
I didnt see nowhere Ohlins on this bike other than the damper ... And is a base 999 not S...
And the guy has a phone.... Scams usally say, ill ship the bike from UK/Germany etc
Description at the very top says 999S. Bike shows ohlins. You can see the gold anodizing in the front 3/4 pics.
Quote from: L'Avatar D'Jour on December 18, 2008, 04:09:17 PM
Yep, but you can get an '08 1098s in great shape still in warranty for 14...
or an '07 ;)
Quote from: cdc on December 18, 2008, 03:28:38 PM
calling Red.
There is 999S with your name on it waiting at the Woodlands.
cdc
he wont jump, only when he's spending other people's money does he chime in [cheeky] [cheeky] [cheeky] [cheeky] [cheeky] [cheeky]
I hear ya Dax. CDC you know where my head is at on this topic. I just hope my kitchen points this Christmas will amount to that much. But Like Jesus said IF it's still here...I don't see that bike staying for sale much longer than the weekend. Yeah, got the cash but can't let it go or I'd be headless...yeah there too.
You see, you guys with these Godsend brides who actually LIKE motos AND will actually ride them are just walking on air. Someday you'll come down here amongst us mere mortals and realize it's all about kitchen points.
I somewhat agree it does look like Ohlins in the one pic that shows the front forks but the tops do not have the tradmark 'blue tops'. Need a closer look. Dax, let's just ride down Saturday and take a look instead having the party at your house ok? To the Woodlands from downtown Dallas it's 3.5 hours of 80+mph and can be done in a day. So, get back to me on that ok?
Quote from: RED on December 18, 2008, 10:12:45 PM
I hear ya Dax. CDC you know where my head is at on this topic. I just hope my kitchen points this Christmas will amount to that much. But Like Jesus said IF it's still here...I don't see that bike staying for sale much longer than the weekend. Yeah, got the cash but can't let it go or I'd be headless...yeah there too.
You see, you guys with these Godsend brides who actually LIKE motos AND will actually ride them are just walking on air. Someday you'll come down here amongst us mere mortals and realize it's all about kitchen points.
I somewhat agree it does look like Ohlins in the one pic that shows the front forks but the tops do not have the tradmark 'blue tops'. Need a closer look. Dax, let's just ride down Saturday and take a look instead having the party at your house ok? To the Woodlands from downtown Dallas it's 3.5 hours of 80+mph and can be done in a day. So, get back to me on that ok?
I can do Monday or even Sunday if it's not too cold. I have installers coming tomorrow and Saturday morning so I can't leave the to-be alone or she'll have me headless too [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Seriously though, bring Redette early in the cage while you ride and let Eli talk to her for about two hours while we ride Saturday....you just may be suprised???? ;)
Quote from: El Matador on December 18, 2008, 08:23:58 PM
Description at the very top says 999S. Bike shows ohlins. You can see the gold anodizing in the front 3/4 pics.
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(http://images.traderonline.com//img/5/plcnad/6435992/94235745_4thumb_550x410.jpg)
The Description is wrong.... 999S has Ohlins forks those are Showa fork with gold sliders but silver boots and the adjusters scream Showa... Rear shock isnt Ohlins neither... also the 999S behind the 999 has an S this bike doesnt. Also the 999S has white tail section
here is a pic of a 04 999S if you want to compare yourself...
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/408336260_007700d22e.jpg)
and here is how the Ohlins fork Adjusters look on top
(http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008/05/12/bikepics-1285724-800.jpg)
Quote from: giannis on December 18, 2008, 08:20:17 PM
I didnt see nowhere Ohlins on this bike other than the damper ... And is a base 999 not S...
Quote from: El Matador on December 18, 2008, 08:23:58 PM
Description at the very top says 999S. Bike shows ohlins. You can see the gold anodizing in the front 3/4 pics.
Good catch Giannis. You too Red. Sorry Jesus but the base 999 came with TIN coated Showa forks which I believe had silver colored fork uppers while the Ohlins have gold colored uppers. The top covers are also blue on most factory Ohlins and silver on Showas. The steering dampener is indeed an Ohlins on this bike but likely a replacement of the stock non Ohlins dampener.
That was disingenious of the seller to describe this as a 999S when it was clearly a base model. The fairing read 999.
cdc
I was at Eurosport Cycles last night and I think there was a 999r (tagged at $24k) in the corner by the Bimoto. Would love trip9 track bike for sure. I wonder if Cher or Svoloch would part with either of theirs for a couple g's? I'm just sayin...
Quote from: RED on December 19, 2008, 01:26:28 PM
I was at Eurosport Cycles last night and I think there was a 999r (tagged at $24k) in the corner by the Bimoto.
That's my bike! Well, whenever I win the lotto that is.
Quote from: RED on December 19, 2008, 01:26:28 PM
I wonder if Cher or Svoloch would part with either of theirs for a couple g's? I'm just sayin...
The problem with buying Patrick's sh1t hot black 999 is that if you were to scratch that beautiful decal job, Cher will come to your house and beat you upside the head silly. ;D
cdc
Quote from: RED on December 19, 2008, 01:26:28 PM
I was at Eurosport Cycles last night and I think there was a 999r (tagged at $24k) in the corner by the Bimoto. Would love trip9 track bike for sure. I wonder if Cher or Svoloch would part with either of theirs for a couple g's? I'm just sayin...
AMS has 2 Xerox 999R's one for 24k pretty much New, i know the Owner, he never took it to the track neither rode it on the street, it has 200 miles :o
And another for 18k with 2000 miles Termi exhaust, Sliper EVR and much more... 8)
if i had the extra cash i would own one of the Xerox Bikes...
The cheaper 999R has been tracked... big time and the owner just wants to dump it.:P That came straight from AMS. Not saying who. Look at the tires, they tell the story... along with the scratched up tank. If I put out money for a Xerox R it needs to be 95-100%. The 999"S" in this thread is BS. That's a base 999. Besides, the 999 to get is the 2005 and younger models. No "jack-o-latern" front fairing, better swingarm and other goodies. Just saying. That's why you rarely see 2005+ 999 or 999S models for sale. Peeps are hanging on to them. I'll crawl back in my hole now.
Quote from: giannis on December 19, 2008, 12:32:13 AM
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(http://images.traderonline.com//img/5/plcnad/6435992/94235745_4thumb_550x410.jpg)
The Description is wrong.... 999S has Ohlins forks those are Showa fork with gold sliders but silver boots and the adjusters scream Showa... Rear shock isnt Ohlins neither... also the 999S behind the 999 has an S this bike doesnt. Also the 999S has white tail section
here is a pic of a 04 999S if you want to compare yourself...
(http://farm1.static.flickr.com/126/408336260_007700d22e.jpg)
and here is how the Ohlins fork Adjusters look on top
(http://w3.bikepics.com/pics/2008/05/12/bikepics-1285724-800.jpg)
I don't know one fith of what you guys know regarding these bikes but I downloaded the picture and the bottom is gold.....either way for this price it would seem a steal.
Quote from: giannis on December 19, 2008, 07:40:36 PM
AMS has 2 Xerox 999R's one for 24k pretty much New, i know the Owner, he never took it to the track neither rode it on the street, it has 200 miles :o
And another for 18k with 2000 miles Termi exhaust, Sliper EVR and much more... 8)
if i had the extra cash i would own one of the Xerox Bikes...
Yep, Derrick told me yesterday that with the upcoming track day season (to which I know the schedule!) he said he'd make me 'sweet deal' on one of em. I told him that I couldn't in my right mind take one of those to the track and risk dumping it! To that he just shrugged...thinking to himself i'm sure...'Assh*!# I take my Desmo! So step up if you want to be a playaaah'
Agreed Giannis...cash poor moi.
Quote from: fastwin on December 19, 2008, 08:04:45 PM
The cheaper 999R has been tracked... big time and the owner just wants to dump it.:P That came straight from AMS. Not saying who. Look at the tires, they tell the story... along with the scratched up tank. If I put out money for a Xerox R it needs to be 95-100%. The 999"S" in this thread is BS. That's a base 999. Besides, the 999 to get is the 2005 and younger models. No "jack-o-latern" front fairing, better swingarm and other goodies. Just saying. That's why you rarely see 2005+ 999 or 999S models for sale. Peeps are hanging on to them. I'll crawl back in my hole now.
I agree that the 2005 and younger 999s had an upgraded swingarm, patterned after the first iteration of the factory race bike, but if I am not mistakened, they used the "jack o lantern" front fairing in WSBK which I personally like (that's me) and for many people's needs, the original swingarn was elegant (again just my opinion) and not inadequate. If it came in YELLOW, like one bike I know ( ;D), the original look of the 999 is georgeous and unique. The exception would be the 999 in black. Now that's SH1T HOT right there.
As far as people hanging on to the newer 999, couldn't also be that the bikes are too new to sell especially in this down market? Just asking?
cdc
Well, all I have to say is that the trip 9 is one hell of a performer. I got a friend who has an 's' with Termis and it's as polished a bike as ever was one. Fabulous power, demisionally correct and comfortable to ride. Heck, he's even put a full campsite load of gear on it and went camping in Arkansas with his girlfriend trailing on her 696 loaded the same! You can use it as a track bike, a truck, an RV....very versital. I'm just sayin.
Oh, and Mr. Fastie, we're waiting for you to emerge and shed the cocoon. I know it's difficult for you NOT to post and believe you me, your opinion weighs heavy here. (que applause now) [thumbsup]
Quote from: cdc on December 20, 2008, 10:14:40 PM
As far as people hanging on to the newer 999, couldn't also be that the bikes are too new to sell especially in this down market? Just asking?
That doesn't explain the plethora of 1098s on craigslist and ebay. I tried for a long time to upgrade to a 999S but could never find one other than the Parts Unlimited bikes like Gus'. Should have gotten the S over the standard to begin with, I've slowly morphed mine into an S and it's not as cheap after the fact. Live and learn.
I always thought yours was a "s" model, huh. ? It looks good though.
Oh, wanna buy a 1098s? I'll derby it on eBay for you. [laugh]
Quote from: fastwin on December 21, 2008, 08:40:35 AM
That doesn't explain the plethora of 1098s on craigslist and ebay. I tried for a long time to upgrade to a 999S but could never find one other than the Parts Unlimited bikes like Gus'. Should have gotten the S over the standard to begin with, I've slowly morphed mine into an S and it's not as cheap after the fact. Live and learn.
Ahh. There you go. Your first hand experience trumps my musings. [bow_down]
Maybe it is I who should crawl back into my hole for expressing my opinion. [roll] ;D
cdc
I think that the rash of 1098 sales is due to people not being able to afford the payments. Many of the 999s will be paid off at this point.
Good point. You may be right.
(http://img3.mysmiley.net/imgs/smile/sign/sign0073.gif) (http://www.mysmiley.net/free-unhappy-smileys.php)
have title in hand ;)
Quote from: cdc on December 21, 2008, 09:19:41 AM
Ahh. There you go. Your first hand experience trumps my musings. [bow_down]
Maybe it is I who should crawl back into my hole for expressing my opinion. [roll] ;D
cdc
Nonsense. Just opinions. They are cheap and plentiful.
Quote from: Slag on December 21, 2008, 09:24:09 AM
I think that the rash of 1098 sales is due to people not being able to afford the payments. Many of the 999s will be paid off at this point.
Ahh, another bright bulb in the bunch and moto related too.
Must be sober this morning huh Zack? ;D
cdc
Quote from: cdc on December 21, 2008, 09:53:24 AM...Must be sober this morning huh Zack?...
Don't do it Zack! ...you have so much to party on for!
[drink]
Quote from: RichD on December 21, 2008, 09:56:59 AM
Don't do it Zack! ...you have so much to party on for!
[drink]
That's right RichD. All he needs is encouragement for you. [roll]
Come to think about it, that means the plant keeps on humming along. [drink]
Back to my hole I is.
cdc
Quote from: RichD on December 21, 2008, 09:56:59 AM
Don't do it Zack! ...you have so much to party on for!
[drink]
This man is a genius [bow_down]
Quote from: cdc on December 21, 2008, 09:53:24 AM
Ahh, another bright bulb in the bunch and moto related too.
Must be sober this morning huh Zack? ;D
cdc
Sober AND doing house work. I need to end both.
Quote from: Slag on December 21, 2008, 01:24:28 PM
Sober AND doing house work. I need to end both.
Catie says, "Don't stop". ;D
cdc
Quote from: cdc on December 21, 2008, 02:21:27 PM
Catie says, "Don't stop". ;D
cdc
Yes, she does say that... [evil]
My job here is done.
cdc
Quote from: cdc on December 21, 2008, 02:21:27 PM
Catie says, "Don't stop". ;D
cdc
Quote from: Slag on December 21, 2008, 02:55:12 PM
Yes, she does say that... [evil]
Pix or it never happened........want some? [popcorn] [cheeky]
Quote from: Tommy on December 21, 2008, 06:28:06 PM
Pix or it never happened........want some? [popcorn] [cheeky]
so
THAT'S what your job is in that house.....
it's all making sense now...it can be difficult holding that camera off to the side like that...
i'm "just saying" of course....nothing wrong with the homegrown pron pics....... i'll keep my mouth shut for a while... maybe
Quote from: ♣ McKraut ♣ on December 21, 2008, 08:16:34 PM
so THAT'S what your job is in that house.....
it's all making sense now...it can be difficult holding that camera off to the side like that...
yeah, they suck at POV..... I'm just sayin
Quote from: Slag on December 21, 2008, 09:24:09 AM
I think that the rash of 1098 sales is due to people not being able to afford the payments.
Could be people wanting to move to the 1198
Quote from: Tommy on December 21, 2008, 08:19:43 PM
yeah, they suck at POV..... I'm just sayin
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
lets see how many know what that means
Point of View?
So, back on topic, whatever model you decide on, I would def go at least an S model. A good suspension & proper setup is IMHO critical for serious riding.
999s
http://www.advancedmotorsports.com/product-p/999s.htm (http://www.advancedmotorsports.com/product-p/999s.htm)
Quote from: L'Avatar D'Jour on December 22, 2008, 09:05:30 AM
So, back on topic, whatever model you decide on, I would def go at least an S model. A good suspension & proper setup is IMHO critical for serious riding.
I for one would not come close to using the Ohlins to its full potential, at least not yet. Still dreaming about this bike though.
Quote from: muskrat on December 22, 2008, 09:07:10 AM
I for one would not come close to using the Ohlins to its full potential, at least not yet. Still dreaming about this bike though.
Don't think of the Ohlins in terms of using it to it's "fullest potential",
Think of it as extra safety margin to cover you when you accidentally go beyond
your abilities! [thumbsup]
Quote from: RichD on December 22, 2008, 09:58:19 AM
Don't think of the Ohlins in terms of using it to it's "fullest potential",
Think of it as extra safety margin to cover you when you accidentally go beyond your abilities! [thumbsup]
I think that fits me and my Sbike and my abilities. Rich knows.
(POV - prince of varkness?) ;D
Quote from: RichD on December 22, 2008, 09:58:19 AM
Don't think of the Ohlins in terms of using it to it's "fullest potential",
Think of it as extra safety margin to cover you when you accidentally go beyond your abilities! [thumbsup]
+1
With the proper spring, it improves even the low to medium speed ride.
cdc
I'm thinking of getting a cheaper/smaller track bike. I-4 600cc or a 2-stroke 50-125 cc seems to be the ticket
I can't use up the 848 yet... yet
http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mcy/965617162.html (http://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/mcy/965617162.html)
That 999 would be a fun track bike. Somebody would have a blast with it
drooool
Quote from: bryant8 on December 22, 2008, 11:18:17 AM
I'm thinking of getting a cheaper/smaller track bike. I-4 600cc or a 2-stroke 50-125 cc seems to be the ticket
I can't use up the 848 yet... yet
I have an R6 with your name on it. $5k to members of the board. You know you want it. I will even take payments from the right person.
Helluva deal. Nice bike.
Quote from: bryant8 on December 22, 2008, 11:44:44 AM
That 999 would be a fun track bike. Somebody would have a blast with it
Not for this price plus the 999 compared to 848 is like you ride a boat... No offence to 999 owners but the 848 is so much lighter and flickable that makes a stock 999 like a touring bike around the track....
If someοne wants a cheap trackbike get a 1000SS and spent some money on revaling the forks ad aν Ohlins or other aftermarket shock and a set of high mount slipons and you are set for less than 8k [bow_down] Another great and cheap option is Triumph 675.... You can get one for 6k heck of a deal and superfast plus you can get into the Euro Trackdays with it. [bow_down]
Quote from: bryant8 on December 22, 2008, 11:18:17 AM
I'm thinking of getting a cheaper/smaller track bike. I-4 600cc or a 2-stroke 50-125 cc seems to be the ticket
I can't use up the 848 yet... yet
~~MOTO RELATED~~
Is the 848 faster than newer 600's?
(serious question)
ps, I know someone who has a R6 LE track bike with less than 600 miles and set up by Ty Howard for a steal! did I mention it was mint?
Quote from: Tommy on December 22, 2008, 07:17:31 PM
~~MOTO RELATED~~
Is the 848 faster than newer 600's?
I would think so... Water cooled engines have more HP [thumbsup]
Quote from: Slag on December 22, 2008, 12:50:05 PM
I have an R6 with your name on it. $5k to members of the board. You know you want it. I will even take payments from the right person.
oops totally missed this earlier, or i wouldnt have posted it...
Quote from: Tommy on December 22, 2008, 07:17:31 PM
~~MOTO RELATED~~
Is the 848 faster than newer 600's?
(serious question)
IIRC the 2008 R6 makes about 105hp/45ft-lbs and my 848 is making about 123hp/65ft-lbs at the wheel w/ 10% loss down the D/T).
I don't consider that faster, just different. I'm sure an experience rider on a EX500 (~50hp) could run circles around me on my 848.
I think a smaller trackbike will help me learn to carry more corner speed than a big bike right now
Quote from: L'Avatar D'Jour on December 22, 2008, 07:19:38 PM
I would think so... Water cooled engines have more HP [thumbsup]
The R6 is water-cooled [thumbsup]
Sorry for the threadjack. Somebody could use that 999, not me though [thumbsup]
Quote from: bryant8 on December 22, 2008, 07:40:07 PM
IIRC the 2008 R6 makes about 105hp/45ft-lbs and my 848 is making about 123hp/65ft-lbs at the wheel w/ 10% loss down the D/T).
I don't consider that faster, just different. I'm sure an experience rider on a EX500 (~50hp) could run circles around me on my 848.
I think a smaller trackbike will help me learn to carry more corner speed than a big bike right now
The R6 is water-cooled [thumbsup]
Sorry for the threadjack. Somebody could use that 999, not me though [thumbsup]
I-4 600cc bikes and 848 are not in the same category... try 748-749 compared witht he new breed of 600cc they are slower with equalr riders because of the extra weight the L2 motor has compared to a I4.. 848 is a lightweight Superbike and the only close competition is the GSXR750 which makes about 135hp on the rear wheel.
Once again, thanks for the info Giannis! [thumbsup]
[bacon]
Quote from: giannis on December 22, 2008, 08:01:00 PM
... the GSXR750 which makes about 135hp on the rear wheel.
You're wrong. Mine makes 131. [laugh] Right about the same as my full Termi 999. Good comparison though. [thumbsup]
Quote from: fastwin on December 22, 2008, 08:43:00 PM
You're wrong. Mine makes 131. [laugh] Right about the same as my full Termi 999. Good comparison though. [thumbsup]
The newer 750 K8-K9 makes a bit more horsepower i think you have a K4 right?
Here's a real sweet 749S
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=13519.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=13519.0)
Ooooh, a 749S already set up for track, $7,500.
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=9040.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=9040.0#bot)
You guys are WAY off on the R6. 127hp at 15k rpm. Dry weight is 357 lbs. Compare that to 134hp on the 848, and a claimed dry weight of 370 lbs. My r6 lost about 15 lbs in its transformation. The only place the 848 beats the R6 is in torque. I love ducatis, but the R6 is a better track bike. There is no comparison between the 748/749 and the R6. The R6 would destroy them.