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Title: 2007 S4Rs - RED KEY
Post by: cvino on December 30, 2008, 07:25:34 PM
Hello All,

I just bought an 2007 S4Rs Ducati. The General Manager at the dealer was telling me that there's no red key available for this bike.
I need to know if I'm going to have any problems coming down the road?

I think the guy was not being honest with me. He repeated telling me that Ducati done away with this red key for 2007 models.
The bike has very little miles on her less than 10 miles to be total
I need some feed back if someone thinks that there can be trouble for me at some point

Thanks,
Ducatijacko@gmail.com
Title: Re: 2007 S4Rs - RED KEY
Post by: jdubbs32584 on December 30, 2008, 07:30:56 PM
My 2007 S2R 800 came with the red key. Not sure if all 07 models had them though.

Did you get a code card?
Title: Re: 2007 S4Rs - RED KEY
Post by: cvino on December 30, 2008, 07:52:05 PM
HI there,

I have to follow up with the dealer tomorrow & ask him about the code card. Is there an differance vs the red key / code card & if so are they the same thing just an different format?

Thank you
Title: Re: 2007 S4Rs - RED KEY
Post by: Howie on December 30, 2008, 08:13:38 PM
From the '07 owner's manual, page 16, available here:

http://www.ducati.com/en/bikes/service/manuals/2007.jhtml?family=manuals (http://www.ducati.com/en/bikes/service/manuals/2007.jhtml?family=manuals)

Keys (fig. 7)
The owner receives a set of keys, comprising:
- 1 key A (RED)
The red key is a service tool and is part of the motorcycle’s
immobilizer system.
It contains the code of the immobilizer system and should
not be used for normal everyday use of your motorcycle.
Your dealer may ask you to produce the red key in order to
carry out certain service operations. For security reasons,
the red key cannot be replaced. In cases where the red
key is required for servicing purposes and the owner is
unable to produce it, it will be necessary to renew the
motorcycle’s electronic control unit, instrument panel
and ignition switch assembly, and the cost of these
operations will be met by the owner. It is therefore
important to keep the red key in a safe place.
- 2 keys B (BLACK)

I suggest you show this to your dealer.





Title: Re: 2007 S4Rs - RED KEY
Post by: jdubbs32584 on December 30, 2008, 08:16:14 PM
Quote from: howie on December 30, 2008, 08:13:38 PM
From the '07 owner's manual, page 16, available here:

http://www.ducati.com/en/bikes/service/manuals/2007.jhtml?family=manuals (http://www.ducati.com/en/bikes/service/manuals/2007.jhtml?family=manuals)

Keys (fig. 7)
The owner receives a set of keys, comprising:
- 1 key A (RED)
The red key is a service tool and is part of the motorcycle’s
immobilizer system.
It contains the code of the immobilizer system and should
not be used for normal everyday use of your motorcycle.
Your dealer may ask you to produce the red key in order to
carry out certain service operations. For security reasons,
the red key cannot be replaced. In cases where the red
key is required for servicing purposes and the owner is
unable to produce it, it will be necessary to renew the
motorcycle’s electronic control unit, instrument panel
and ignition switch assembly, and the cost of these
operations will be met by the owner. It is therefore
important to keep the red key in a safe place.
- 2 keys B (BLACK)

I suggest you show this to your dealer.







Thanks for clarifying howie.

And yes, you should have a code card too. The are different things.

This is what I received in addition to my two black keys:

(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3219/2861135694_828037a91f.jpg?v=0)
Title: Re: 2007 S4Rs - RED KEY
Post by: jdubbs32584 on December 30, 2008, 08:18:36 PM
Howie, any idea if the '08 S4Rs the same as far as keys and code card? Complete shot in the dark but maybe he has an 08 and its different...
Title: Re: 2007 S4Rs - RED KEY
Post by: Howie on December 30, 2008, 08:26:38 PM
Quote from: JBubble on December 30, 2008, 08:18:36 PM
Howie, any idea if the '08 S4Rs the same as far as keys and code card? Complete shot in the dark but maybe he has an 08 and its different...

The '08 manual says yes.  AFAIK, the only ones without the red key are the M696 and M1100 with the Siemans computer. 
Title: Re: 2007 S4Rs - RED KEY
Post by: jdubbs32584 on December 30, 2008, 08:33:32 PM
Quote from: howie on December 30, 2008, 08:26:38 PM
The '08 manual says yes.  AFAIK, the only ones without the red key are the M696 and M1100 with the Siemans computer. 

Cool. Thanks! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 2007 S4Rs - RED KEY
Post by: Bill in OKC on December 30, 2008, 08:44:18 PM
My 07 S4Rs came with a red key.
Title: Re: 2007 S4Rs - RED KEY
Post by: Keld on December 31, 2008, 01:13:55 AM
07 S4R: two black, one red plus keycard.
eu/uk version or something it says on ECU.


Dont forget to store the keycard code in your mobile  ;D
Title: Re: 2007 S4Rs - RED KEY
Post by: extra330 on January 01, 2009, 04:09:34 PM
My 07 also came with the Red key and the Card. If the bike has a DP ECU you may not need .
Title: Re: 2007 S4Rs - RED KEY
Post by: MotoCreations on January 01, 2009, 04:25:47 PM
Red key should be there as well as card.

note: I just looked at one the other day and the owner had "lost" the red key/card.  I immediately deducted $1500 from the dollar offer as that would be the replacement cost if needed in the future.  He was adamant the two items weren't required as the bike ran fine currently.  Then again, what do I know about Ducati's? (I didn't tell him what I do for a business)  I walked away from the deal of course...
Title: Re: 2007 S4Rs - RED KEY
Post by: BastrdHK on January 01, 2009, 08:24:07 PM
Why not call him out Mark?
Title: Re: 2007 S4Rs - RED KEY
Post by: Monster Zero on January 07, 2009, 06:48:48 PM
Quote from: cvino on December 30, 2008, 07:25:34 PM
Hello All,

I just bought an 2007 S4Rs Ducati. The General Manager at the dealer was telling me that there's no red key available for this bike.
I need to know if I'm going to have any problems coming down the road?

I think the guy was not being honest with me. He repeated telling me that Ducati done away with this red key for 2007 models.The bike has very little miles on her less than 10 miles to be total
I need some feed back if someone thinks that there can be trouble for me at some point

Thanks,
Ducatijacko@gmail.com

Liar, liar, pants on fire.
Title: Re: 2007 S4Rs - RED KEY
Post by: Raux on January 08, 2009, 11:40:48 AM
Quote from: Keld on December 31, 2008, 01:13:55 AM

Dont forget to store the keycard code in your mobile  ;D

that's a great tip thanks [thumbsup]
Title: Re: 2007 S4Rs - RED KEY
Post by: NorDog on January 09, 2009, 04:49:03 PM
My 2007 S4RS came with the key and card.

They are supposed to have them.

You need to talk to that manager.

Here's and idea, tell them you lost yourr regular key and ask them for a new one.  See what they say.