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Title: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: Le Piou on January 05, 2009, 10:13:11 AM
The S2000 is a nice car, but it's not a bike!!!! I just can't continue like that... I'm just too depressed...

So, I just started looking -very slowly- for a new bike.
I won't probably commute as much as before (5d/week, rain or shine) to keep the family more comfortable about that, so I am hesitating between getting another S2R1k or getting a "more expensive to maintain" S4Rs.

Before taking decision, I just would like to know what are the mods you NEED to do on a S4Rs.
On a S2R1k, I know the list: Pipes + exhaust, Air Filter, FacDuc O2 sensor tricker and you're good.

Now for a S4RS, what are the things? Are you screwed as you are with the O2 sensor thing on a S2R1k? are you obliged to get the DP ecu? you know this kind of stuff??
Any advices, opinions? [bow_down]

Thanks.
Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: desmoquattro on January 05, 2009, 10:39:22 AM
My list of essential mods:
- 14 tooth front sprocket
- Termis (keeps the thing in warranty, I think no need for an ECU)
- Tail chop
- Corbin seat

Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: Desmostro on January 05, 2009, 11:33:38 AM
I would just like to say  [clap] [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: Michael Moore on January 05, 2009, 12:20:32 PM
I got to ride a stock S4RS for about a week, and I have to say, it was lovely as is. (Even thought he tires were pretty shagged.) The Ohlins suspension is worth the $$ on its own.
Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: ptam on January 05, 2009, 01:18:25 PM
You guys know my opinions on mods...  ;D

The S4Rs doesn't have the same lean mapping the S2R1K did, so you most likely don't need the O2 Sensor tricker.

Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: Le Piou on January 05, 2009, 01:32:52 PM
Quote from: ptam on January 05, 2009, 01:18:25 PM
The S4Rs doesn't have the same lean mapping the S2R1K did, so you most likely don't need the O2 Sensor tricker.
Coooool... Good news even the earlier model like the 2006 or 2007? The 2007 S2R1k was the worse ones (And I know!!!  [bang]) while the 2006 and 2008 were way easier to improve...
Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: sally101 on January 05, 2009, 02:05:07 PM
Tail Chop (Competition Werks)
Full Termi system (airbox lid, filter, pipes, cans, ECU)
new grips ($10 well spent)
a professional tuning of that lovely suspension you shelled the extra $$ for.

not too much.. She's pretty well set up as is. Those Termis hurt the wallet though..

Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: ROBsS4R on January 05, 2009, 03:53:50 PM
Quote from: Le Piou on January 05, 2009, 10:13:11 AM
The S2000 is a nice car, but it's not a bike!!!! I just can't continue like that... I'm just too depressed...

So, I just started looking -very slowly- for a new bike.
I won't probably commute as much as before (5d/week, rain or shine) to keep the family more comfortable about that, so I am hesitating between getting another S2R1k or getting a "more expensive to maintain" S4Rs.

Before taking decision, I just would like to know what are the mods you NEED to do on a S4Rs.
On a S2R1k, I know the list: Pipes + exhaust, Air Filter, FacDuc O2 sensor tricker and you're good.

Now for a S4RS, what are the things? Are you screwed as you are with the O2 sensor thing on a S2R1k? are you obliged to get the DP ecu? you know this kind of stuff??
Any advices, opinions? [bow_down]

Thanks.

You know I am in the same boat. The s2000 is a nice car but everytime I see a motorcycle ride by me all I can think about is dropping the car off in the garage.

I cant wait to get the bike out of Nichols.. Hopefully sometime this week.  In regards to the S4R the only thing I did was put a 14t on it and some aftermarket exhaust. after 25k miles I still am not remotely tired of the bike.
Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: Le Piou on January 06, 2009, 10:43:33 AM
Ok... So let me get this straight: basically, changing Pipes on a S4Rs doesn't required a remapped ECU to keep the bike working great.
Correct?
Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: ROBsS4R on January 06, 2009, 12:53:41 PM
I have FBF Pipes and no ECU changes.

Actually I was going to get the performance ECU and Nichols said don't bother. The bike runs great stock.

It prob depends on the pipes

Note I have the 05 S4R which is the 996 motor. I am not sure about the 998 motors
Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: DucNrun on January 06, 2009, 04:04:09 PM
I'm running full Arrows on my S4RS with a fat duc thingy.  It seems ok so far, but I've only ridden with this setup once so to be honest, the jury's still out.  For $80 and a 30 day free trial, though, you can't go wrong.
Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: Le Piou on January 06, 2009, 07:32:38 PM
Quote from: DucNrun on January 06, 2009, 04:04:09 PM
I'm running full Arrows on my S4RS with a fat duc thingy.  It seems ok so far, but I've only ridden with this setup once so to be honest, the jury's still out.  For $80 and a 30 day free trial, though, you can't go wrong.
I know!!!! ;D I crashed on my first time out with it on my S2R!!!! [bang]
Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: hypurone on January 07, 2009, 07:14:01 AM
Quote from: ptam on January 05, 2009, 01:18:25 PM
You guys know my opinions on mods...  ;D

The S4Rs doesn't have the same lean mapping the S2R1K did, so you most likely don't need the O2 Sensor tricker.


I beg to differ. Mine was a beast at low/mid rpm when warm-to-hot. Anything over 180-190 deg coolant temp was sketchy. The mix is def waaaay lean. When I installed the full system, the ports and pipes were WHITE inside. Not tan, not grey, stark raving white! Now that is lean. You might be able to mask it enough to make it bearble with a 14t, but why? When all that silky smooth goodness (and extra HP) awaits you with the DP ECU/Full system...

Just my .02 and to each their own...
Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: Salamanga7 on January 07, 2009, 08:44:33 AM


My Mods (so Far)
CRG Mirrors
Comp Werks Tail chop
14t
SMT Slave clutch (which I regret- dont bother)
Suspension professionally tuned
New Termi shorty on ebay for...get this...delivered $599.
Good Times my friend...good times.
Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: Le Piou on January 07, 2009, 11:20:49 AM
Quote from: hypurone on January 07, 2009, 07:14:01 AM
I beg to differ. Mine was a beast at low/mid rpm when warm-to-hot. Anything over 180-190 deg coolant temp was sketchy. The mix is def waaaay lean. When I installed the full system, the ports and pipes were WHITE inside. Not tan, not grey, stark raving white! Now that is lean. You might be able to mask it enough to make it bearble with a 14t, but why? When all that silky smooth goodness (and extra HP) awaits you with the DP ECU/Full system...
Hypurone, was year model do you have?
Thanks for your input!
Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: smducman on January 07, 2009, 09:13:05 PM
The bike is great perform after termi involve ,  suspensions are working well for long ride , good speed or the road is not quite good.

http://s482.photobucket.com/albums/rr190/dannychung8/?action=view&current=66e1d3a4.pbr (http://s482.photobucket.com/albums/rr190/dannychung8/?action=view&current=66e1d3a4.pbr)
Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: hypurone on January 08, 2009, 06:43:03 AM
Quote from: Le Piou on January 07, 2009, 11:20:49 AM
Hypurone, was year model do you have?
Thanks for your input!

An 07 with a prod date of 11/06 (IIRC).
Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: MendoDave on January 08, 2009, 08:57:41 AM
Quote from: smducman on January 07, 2009, 09:13:05 PM
The bike is great perform after termi involve ,  suspensions are working well for long ride , good speed or the road is not quite good.

http://s482.photobucket.com/albums/rr190/dannychung8/?action=view&current=145hpMonsterDynoRun-1.flv (http://s482.photobucket.com/albums/rr190/dannychung8/?action=view&current=145hpMonsterDynoRun-1.flv)

We need more Vids like that....
Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: hypurone on January 08, 2009, 01:24:56 PM
Quote from: MendoDave on January 08, 2009, 08:57:41 AM
We need more Vids like that....

Kinda crappy video (cell phone) but the sound rocks!!  [thumbsup]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0V-vNmz9OA (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o0V-vNmz9OA)


Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: MendoDave on January 08, 2009, 01:40:46 PM
Thank you.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: smducman on January 08, 2009, 08:37:52 PM
Here is a new mod clip  [moto]
http://s482.photobucket.com/albums/rr190/dannychung8/?action=view&current=66e1d3a4.pbr (http://s482.photobucket.com/albums/rr190/dannychung8/?action=view&current=66e1d3a4.pbr)
Title: Re: Back on saddle II, "the return"
Post by: MendoDave on January 09, 2009, 05:30:38 AM
Quote from: smducman on January 08, 2009, 08:37:52 PM
Here is a new mod clip  [moto]
http://s482.photobucket.com/albums/rr190/dannychung8/?action=view&current=66e1d3a4.pbr (http://s482.photobucket.com/albums/rr190/dannychung8/?action=view&current=66e1d3a4.pbr)
146.7 Hp cool  [thumbsup]
The eyeballs should go...JMO