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Title: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: Cucciolo on May 13, 2008, 02:28:04 PM
Hello guys! I will be picking up my first monster tomorrow.. WE are 240 miles away and I'm thinking about renting a uhaul motorcycle trailer and hauling it back home. Where can I get some tie downs and what would be the best place to put them on the duc? It would suck to see it tip over the trailer on to the road at 50mph... :(

Any suggestions appreciated!
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: mitt on May 13, 2008, 02:50:10 PM
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I go from each front corner of the trailer floor, up around the nearest fork tube, then back to the same corner of the floor. Have the points on the floor as wide as possible, so it triangulates the straps.

I also use a chock, or have your wheel up against something solid, so the straps cannot come loose if the bike moves.

I put a 3rd stap from one rear corner of the floor, and weave it through the grab handles, then down to the other rear corner, to keep the rear end from bouncing.

good luck.

mitt


I will reply here this time instead of the other board...

Quote from: julianista;2274426Thanks MITT!!

Were do I get the straps??

Buy some before you go!  Do you have a farm supply store, or motorcycle shop nearby?  You can use the cam buckle type, or the rachet type.

cam
(http://images.cabelas.com/is/image/cabelas/s7_316161_imageset_01?$main-Medium$)


rachet
(http://www.gominiserie.com/ratchet%20straps%20yellow.jpg)


You might need to figure out a way to attach the straps to the floor of the trailer.  Is it enclosed or open?

mitt
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: Cucciolo on May 13, 2008, 02:52:18 PM
Thanks again!! I will check around for the straps.!!

I am glad that I found this forum!!

Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: arai_speed on May 13, 2008, 03:02:42 PM
A much simpler solution (which is what i used when i picked up my monster from San Francisco to Los Angeles) is to buy a Canyon Dancer (http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=canyon+dancer&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8"):

(http://www.lockitt.com/images/canyond1.jpg)

And use 2 straps for the front.  Put the bike in gear and you are done.


Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: J3 on May 13, 2008, 03:04:20 PM
I know Home Depot has tie down straps, bet WalMart does too.  I really like the cycle cynch (http://www.cyclecynch.com/CCpages/CCproduct.html) too.  I got one from AMS in dallas when I bought the bike.  Stability will improve greatly if you can compress the suspension a bit too.
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: Cucciolo on May 13, 2008, 03:37:02 PM
Thanks for the pictures!! I will go to home depot and see what they have.

I hope that the uhaul motorcycle trailer will be good for the highway. Oh.. and it is supposed to rain tomorrow.. I may have to put a cover on the bike or it will get soaking wet!!!!!!!
[thumbsup]
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: Juan on May 13, 2008, 03:52:43 PM
Quote from: arai_speed on May 13, 2008, 03:02:42 PM
A much simpler solution (which is what i used when i picked up my monster from San Francisco to Los Angeles) is to buy a Canyon Dancer (http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=canyon+dancer&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8"):

(http://www.lockitt.com/images/canyond1.jpg)

And use 2 straps for the front.  Put the bike in gear and you are done.


+ 11 B..   [thumbsup]


Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: CETME on May 13, 2008, 03:57:47 PM
as on TOB,

My friend's Speed Triple in my truck:

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i158/fmhipower/Bikes/DSC01191.jpg)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i158/fmhipower/Bikes/DSC01187.jpg)

If you don't have a strap to go across the handlebars, no problem, you can wrap the straps around the top of the lower triple clamp on a Monster. This is my Tuono on my truck. Works the same way with a Monster:

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i158/fmhipower/Bikes/Picture100.jpg)

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i158/fmhipower/Bikes/Picture103.jpg)


Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: CETME on May 13, 2008, 04:01:39 PM
oh, btw, DON'T put a cover over a motorcycle. If it's loose, it will slap around in the wind and can damage your paint.

Let it get wet. It's no problem drying something. Fixing knicks and chips is another thing.
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: mitt on May 13, 2008, 04:45:59 PM
I personally do not like putting straps on handlebars.  If your riser bolts (or clipon-clamps) are not tight, and you are going a long distance, the bars can rotate down, thus loosening the straps.

Here is mine for reference (over-kill, but I have a lot of straps laying around from canoe carrying):

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2013/2491032662_b4bd938c5b_o.jpg)

mitt
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: Juan on May 13, 2008, 04:51:31 PM
mitt, good point..!
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: Augustus on May 13, 2008, 07:17:18 PM
Quote from: arai_speed on May 13, 2008, 03:02:42 PM
A much simpler solution (which is what i used when i picked up my monster from San Francisco to Los Angeles) is to buy a Canyon Dancer (http://www.google.com/search?client=safari&rls=en-us&q=canyon+dancer&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8"):

(http://www.lockitt.com/images/canyond1.jpg)

And use 2 straps for the front.  Put the bike in gear and you are done.



Wow, this is pretty cool.  I always put them on the frame, but sometimes they rub on long rides which makes it necessary to wax and polish areas on the bike and frame.  Thanks for the post.
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: Pedro-bot on May 13, 2008, 07:19:28 PM
Quote from: mitt on May 13, 2008, 04:45:59 PM
I personally do not like putting straps on handlebars.  If your riser bolts (or clipon-clamps) are not tight, and you are going a long distance, the bars can rotate down, thus loosening the straps.

Here is mine for reference (over-kill, but I have a lot of straps laying around from canoe carrying):

(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2013/2491032662_b4bd938c5b_o.jpg)

mitt

Damm!! How many tie down you got on that thing?
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: Cucciolo on May 13, 2008, 10:06:55 PM
I bought the straps today.. but I have no way of getting the "softies" to put around the triple clamps. Will I damage the finish by using the hooks on the clamps without softies? what else can I use to maybe cover the hooks?
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: silentbob on May 13, 2008, 10:24:23 PM
Quote from: julianista on May 13, 2008, 10:06:55 PM
I bought the straps today.. but I have no way of getting the "softies" to put around the triple clamps. Will I damage the finish by using the hooks on the clamps without softies? what else can I use to maybe cover the hooks?


You can loop the tie down around the lower triple and then back to the tie down point where the buckle is.  Just one big loop.
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: silentbob on May 13, 2008, 10:25:28 PM
Quote from: J3 on May 13, 2008, 03:04:20 PM
I know Home Depot has tie down straps, bet WalMart does too.  I really like the cycle cynch (http://www.cyclecynch.com/CCpages/CCproduct.html) too.  I got one from AMS in dallas when I bought the bike.  Stability will improve greatly if you can compress the suspension a bit too.


How does the cycle cynch compare to the canyon dancer?
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: mitt on May 14, 2008, 06:31:28 AM
Quote from: chill on May 13, 2008, 07:19:28 PM
Damm!! How many tie down you got on that thing?

5  ;D   It was a long trip.  I do 1 one each front corner and 1 in the back normally, but I had a couple more, so I doubled up the fronts.

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Do not put the hooks on the frame.  Put the hooks on the trailer, and run the nylon web up around the fork tubes in between the triple clamps.

mitt
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: CETME on May 14, 2008, 09:03:59 AM
for crying out loud, how many pictures do you need?!  ;D jk here's a close-up

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i158/fmhipower/Bikes/Picture100a.jpg)
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: Armor on May 14, 2008, 09:25:34 AM
You should use Ratchet straps instead of Cambuckles.  They are positive locking.  A Cambuckle can slip with vibration.  I'm an engineer and design Tie down straps.
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: Cucciolo on May 14, 2008, 10:39:52 AM
Quote from: CETME on May 14, 2008, 09:03:59 AM
for crying out loud, how many pictures do you need?!  ;D jk here's a close-up

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i158/fmhipower/Bikes/Picture100a.jpg)

That is a good pic!! Thanks man!

I will be picking up the bike on Friday since it is storming pretty bad here in TN and KY. I will post pictures of my new S4R when I bring it home!!  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: hypurone on May 14, 2008, 10:40:52 AM
Quote from: julianista on May 13, 2008, 10:06:55 PM
I bought the straps today.. but I have no way of getting the "softies" to put around the triple clamps. Will I damage the finish by using the hooks on the clamps without softies? what else can I use to maybe cover the hooks?

I put small towels in between the strap and the TT or fork tube or frame or whatever your'e gonna run the strap around to prevent it rubbing directly on the component. Works like a charm.
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: mitt on May 14, 2008, 10:44:36 AM
Quote from: CETME on May 14, 2008, 09:03:59 AM
for crying out loud, how many pictures do you need?!  ;D jk here's a close-up

(http://i71.photobucket.com/albums/i158/fmhipower/Bikes/Picture100a.jpg)

I don't do it exactly like that either.  I run the hook through the fork like that, but then run the hook down to the same trailer point as the other end of the strap, so there is no metal parts anywere near the bike.

mitt
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: arai_speed on May 14, 2008, 11:48:07 AM
Let's stop the madness!!! Go with a friend and RIDE  the damm thing back!  [moto]
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: the_Journeyman on May 14, 2008, 12:26:02 PM
IZ just nails his tires to the trailer deck ~

I use cam straps, about like everyone has already said.  Never had a problem, check them every stop.  Water makes them stretch, keep that in mind ~

JM
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: CETME on May 18, 2008, 11:36:54 AM
Mitt, my Ancra's are not long enough to do it your way. I haven't scratched my bike doing it my way, but I would definitely say that the method you use is foolproof, definitely no way to scratch the bike.
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: Duc Stamp on May 19, 2008, 10:42:04 AM
I like the advice you got in the first response.

Just an FYI, you will be fine with just two straps up front and something for the front wheel to rest against in front, but my opinion on tying down the back is why not?  The added safety is worth the price of another strap.
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: the ron on May 20, 2008, 03:51:30 PM
Quote from: CETME on May 13, 2008, 04:01:39 PM
oh, btw, DON'T put a cover over a motorcycle. If it's loose, it will slap around in the wind and can damage your paint.

Let it get wet. It's no problem drying something. Fixing knicks and chips is another thing.

i wish this thread was around two weeks ago. i destroyed my front cowl and windscreen because the plastic i covered my bike with flapped back and forth over my bike and it scratched the cowl, wind screen and rear cowl. i was upset

the ron [evil]
Title: Re: How to tie down my monster on a trailer?
Post by: Red5 on May 21, 2008, 11:58:46 AM
Quote from: silentbob on May 13, 2008, 10:25:28 PM

How does the cycle cynch compare to the canyon dancer?

The Canyon Dancer pushes up on the grips when it's tightened and the slack is taken out by the tie-downs.  This supposedly puts the throttle in a bind and may break the throttle housing pin (or so I read from second-hand reports). 

The Cycle Cinch has metal d-rings dangling down from the grip covers to which the tie-down hooks are attached.  When the slack is taken out, it pulls down and away from the grips.
(http://www.cyclecynch.com/CCphotos/popProduct1.jpg)

In the year and half that I used the Canyon Dancer on my bikes, transporting them back and forth between track days or weekend trips, I never had a issue with damage on the grips or throttle parts.  That being said, I did purchased a Cycle Cinch when I decided to get another handlebar tie-down product.  I use the Cycle Cinch primarily now, with the Canyon Dancer as back-up.