OK, it's been suggested that we need some more moto threads on this board. [moto] So, here it is:
We started an oil discussion this past Saturday while smoking cigars and drinking some martinis.
I use Mobil 1 20w-50 V-twin in my 695. I know that some wet-clutch folks talk about clutch slippage when using this, but I have not experienced that after two go-rounds.
What do you think is the best oil for Duc's and why?
Why not throw in the argument of conventional versus synthetic while we are at it? ;)
READING:
http://www.motorcycleanchor.com/motorcycle/how_to/mc_oil.html
amsoil 10w40 because i called alot of dealers from l.a. to great bay to ams and thats what the bulk said they use. mobil is a very good oil though especially for cars!!!
As long as it's from a dead dinosaur...
Klotz Techniplate 20w50. Smells delicious.
I use the oil that can out of the Tahoe! I recycle!! [thumbsup]
I'm using Amsoil now and my clutch hasn't slipped yet. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Ronr on May 13, 2008, 07:19:17 PM
I'm using Amsoil now and my clutch hasn't slipped yet. [thumbsup]
Crisco 20W 50
I use amsoil 10w40 motorcycle really for two reasons,
1. I know that's it 100% full synthetic
2. my supplier can get me however much I want pretty much at cost, straight to my doorstep in under 24 hours with no added shipping costs because the distributor drop ships from dallas
Quote from: hiero on May 14, 2008, 06:29:13 AM
I use amsoil 10w40 motorcycle really for two reasons,
1. I know that's it 100% full synthetic
2. my supplier can get me however much I want pretty much at cost, straight to my doorstep in under 24 hours with no added shipping costs because the distributor drop ships from dallas
Cool.... Gotta love a thick slippery lube [thumbsup] [moto]
I'm a oil whore... can I say that? I'll use just about anything. I hate to admit it but it's true. Recently used Maxima "Maxim4" premium 10-40 in two oil changes, used to use Silkolene 10-40 until I couldn't find more than 1-2 bottles at a time at bike shops, even used boring off the shelf "Suzuki" brand 10-40 from Action Suzuki/Kawi recently. Really need to centralize my brand of oil so that all my scooters are running the same stuff. Of course I have been saying that for 10-15 years. [roll] I am interested in the whole Amsoil oil thing and the Ducati filter they offer.
I'm running AMS 10w40 in the 1098s and Motul in the Race bike... both great oil...
George, can't go wrong with any kind, just what you can easily get... besides its not like your racing and looking for the performance difference...
We're supposed to put oil in our bikes??
??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???
i think i'm going to start using a 20W-50 synthetic just because the SS seems to run so damn hot; i can't imagine what it will be like in the middle of summer here...unless Randy is able to work magic that brings the temp down (he said it may actually be running a bit rich). saturday after coming back from charles' place that night it melted the plastic center of the rizoma clutch cover...i'm guessing that's not a good thing.
Quote from: McKraut on May 14, 2008, 12:09:07 PM
i think i'm going to start using a 20W-50 synthetic just because the SS seems to run so damn hot; i can't imagine what it will be like in the middle of summer here...unless Randy is able to work magic that brings the temp down (he said it may actually be running a bit rich). saturday after coming back from charles' place that night it melted the plastic center of the rizoma clutch cover...i'm guessing that's not a good thing.
Dang, that is hot. :o I noticed it was still pretty hot even after it was on the lift for a while.
Just nake it a naked bike. Who needs plastic? ???
Quote from: littleyellowduc on May 14, 2008, 03:22:13 PM
Just nake it a naked bike. Who needs plastic? ???
ummm...my bike. because it's awesome like that. it'll be even awesomer when it's running
below 270 on the highway.
mine ran hot last summer the first time i saw 290 i freaked. stopped called ams-a and stuart said if the light don't come on don't worry.
Quote from: calscrazy on May 14, 2008, 05:05:30 PM
if the light don't come on don't worry.
Don't stop, ride faster- it's air-cooled!!!!
Quote from: calscrazy on May 14, 2008, 05:05:30 PM
mine ran hot last summer the first time i saw 290 i freaked. stopped called ams-a and stuart said if the light don't come on don't worry.
i don't know...i'm not sure i like that policy. when it's melting the clutch cover window...i'm thinking something is too hot
Quote from: McKraut on May 14, 2008, 05:11:00 PM
i don't know...i'm not sure i like that policy. when it's melting the clutch cover window...i'm thinking something is too hot
Aya, I totally agree with that....
Mine got over 300 before--no melted parts, and I was told the same thing as Chris. this is one of the reasons why I use the 20w - 50 V Twin.
get a better clutch cover!!! [laugh]
AMS changed my oil to Motul 15w-50...didn't know what was used prior to this. Maybe going to Mobil 1 MX4T 10w-40.
Quote from: calscrazy on May 14, 2008, 05:24:54 PM
get a better clutch cover!!! [laugh]
Take the clutch cover off completely!!! HELLO!
Quote from: littleyellowduc on May 16, 2008, 02:24:02 PM
Take the clutch cover off completely!!! HELLO!
That didn't work so well on my 620...
Quote from: mstevens on May 16, 2008, 04:17:24 PM
That didn't work so well on my 620...
You should not have had to take it off The 620, it doesn't have a plastic cover....does it?? ???
Rich modify your cover by removing the plastic cover and and grind off the screw holes where it mounts, then it will be really open! [thumbsup]
Quote from: littleyellowduc on May 16, 2008, 04:21:13 PM
You should not have had to take it off The 620, it doesn't have a plastic cover....does it?? ???
Rich modify your cover by removing the plastic cover and and grind off the screw holes where it mounts, then it will be really open! [thumbsup]
The 620 and S2R800 are wet clutch bikes, which is too bad cos I'd love to have that open clutch cover rattle on my 620 [thumbsup]
Quote from: n2f on May 16, 2008, 05:05:14 PM
The 620 and S2R800 are wet clutch bikes, which is too bad cos I'd love to have that open clutch cover rattle on my 620 [thumbsup]
CJ gave us this....
http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?topic=641.0
cdc
Quote from: n2f on May 16, 2008, 05:05:14 PM
The 620 and S2R800 are wet clutch bikes, which is too bad cos I'd love to have that open clutch cover rattle on my 620 [thumbsup]
open er up and it'll rattle for sure! but it probably wouldn't run much longer after the initial chatter... [cheeky]
Quote from: hiero on May 16, 2008, 06:05:08 PM
open er up and it'll rattle for sure! but it probably wouldn't run much longer after the initial chatter... [cheeky]
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
Quote from: cdc on May 16, 2008, 05:16:43 PM
CJ gave us this....
http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?topic=641.0
cdc
Got it [thumbsup]
Quote from: n2f on May 16, 2008, 06:18:52 PM
Got it [thumbsup]
Seriously tho, it can be done and I'm sure Randy can put it together. It would be a rare bird in these parts and would drive CJ nuts with envy. ;D
Just a thought (I have one every year and there's no guarantee that its worth anything but...), wouldn't it be cool if AMS prepped 4 or 5 old 620s for track day use and rental? No headlight, clip ons, high mounts....
Oh yet and they could use any oil they chose... ;)
cdc
That would be cool. I would hate to get the 900 out on the track after spending so much on getting it back to the LYD and laying it down, even gentley. I would rent a 620 to track it. Put sliders on it! [thumbsup]
I once had a mechanic tell me that it is not good to change oils--to stick with one. Any thoughts on this?
I've been using Mobil 1 20-50 for v-twin. I get some slipping in higher gears. I'm about to do an oil change and was thinking about Motul. I have a wet clutch, BTW.
Motul is what AMS uses I believe. I don't think you can go wrong by going that route, but it is a bit pricey in comparison to Repsol or Mobil1. I'm currently using Silkolene Race (~$55 from ML) in the 848 and I haven't had any problems with it.
Quote from: caffeinejunkee on July 30, 2008, 08:50:55 AM
I once had a mechanic tell me that it is not good to change oils--to stick with one. Any thoughts on this?
I've been using Mobil 1 20-50 for v-twin. I get some slipping in higher gears. I'm about to do an oil change and was thinking about Motul. I have a wet clutch, BTW.
Dont go for the V-twin specifically designed oils. Why? because they're designed with the american version of the twin, lower revving, lower hp. They're specifically not designed for high performance engines.
You should be fine with whatever else fully synthetic you can find. Amsoil is highly recommended....
i've used mobil1 the last several oil changes; elitetc ships a case of 6qts for like $60. haven't had any issues...though i've been wondering if i should go to something better able to take heat with the SS... like a 20-50 (i've been using 10-40 in all the bikes)
Thanks all for the feedback--I went with Motul for this oil change. [thumbsup]
BTW--Here's an interesting site about motorcycle oils for your reading pleasure [coffee] (with links to further reading at bottom):
http://www.motorcycleanchor.com/motorcycle/how_to/mc_oil.html
some good info..makes me want to change my oil tonight.
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on May 13, 2008, 05:50:39 PM
As long as it's from a dead dinosaur...
Dead Dinosaur oil is
MURDER -but then we all know that.
The only reasonable choice is to use synthetic oil made from Tofu.
i'm sure the svoloch uses only full synthetic, vegan-approved oil
I use tofu oil in the crankcase of both my bikes. It produces no smell, has no taste what-so-ever and is completely cholesterol free. Burns clean [evil]
There was a HUGE oil thread in the Tech section at TOB it spanned over a year and after all the experts and opinions were weighed in the overall consensus was that Mobile1 4T 10w40 was the best overall for our application. And now it is available at Wal-Mart for $8.50/qt I have been using it in both the 695 (wet clutch) and the S2R (dry) with no issues at all. Wally-World carrying it has been a bonus, I can get it 24/7 and cheaper than any of its competitors.
Quote from: Duc Fever on July 30, 2008, 09:31:13 PMWally-World carrying it has been a bonus, I can get it 24/7 and cheaper than any of its competitors.
Yeah, but how are they on filters?
They carry the full line of Fram MC filters now as well. But I use the Amsoil EaO-138 filter which I try to keep a couple on-hand in my garage at all times.
Quote from: Duc Fever on July 30, 2008, 09:31:13 PM
There was a HUGE oil thread in the Tech section at TOB it spanned over a year and after all the experts and opinions were weighed in the overall consensus was that Mobile1 4T 10w40 was the best overall for our application. And now it is available at Wal-Mart for $8.50/qt I have been using it in both the 695 (wet clutch) and the S2R (dry) with no issues at all. Wally-World carrying it has been a bonus, I can get it 24/7 and cheaper than any of its competitors.
That's good to know; I've been using the pricey Motul equivalent from CycleGear but I've used Mobil 1 in my car for many years. Now it looks like I can just one-stop shop at WalMart for all that stuff.
Thanks for the info [thumbsup]
ML will order you Silkolene by the drums if that would satisfy any of you guys lubrication needs [thumbsup]
Quote from: Kevin848 on July 31, 2008, 05:40:47 AM
ML will order you Silkolene by the drums if that would satisfy any of you guys lubrication needs [thumbsup]
just the guys, not the girls?? i think their....
nm, i can't finish the joke. i don't want to get internet-slapped.
Quote from: McKraut on July 31, 2008, 07:10:24 AM
just the guys, not the girls?? i think their....
nm, i can't finish the joke. i don't want to get internet-slapped.
haha good call!!!
Quote from: McKraut on July 31, 2008, 07:10:24 AM
just the guys, not the girls?? i think their....
nm, i can't finish the joke. i don't want to get internet-slapped.
[laugh]
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Oh dear...
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I really Like your Picture! Very Cool! ↑↑↑↑↑↑
Thanks. Motorsports Ranch about a year ago. I've GOT to get back out on the track SOON - my street riding has suffered because of it. I can't seem to get past where I'm at skill-wise so there's nothing like a little "spirited" track day flogging to build some confidence [evil]
Quote from: Cher on July 31, 2008, 09:30:25 AM
there's nothing like a little "spirited" track day flogging to build some confidence [evil]
Plus, umm, a whole lot.
Go away heat. When's the next track day?!? ;D
AMS has their next track day in October, $175 for a Saturday -
I saw Toni on Friday and I promised her that I'd attend.
http://www.advancedmotorsports.com/DUCATI-TRACK-DAY-s/140.htm
Glad you are back! M 8)
Quote from: caffeinejunkee on July 30, 2008, 08:50:55 AM
I'm about to do an oil change and was thinking about Motul. I have a wet clutch, BTW.
I think my parts really like the Motul. ;D [thumbsup] [moto]
...or it could just be in my head trying to justify the $$$ I laid out for the stuff. :P