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Title: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: desmoquattro on February 05, 2009, 08:15:57 AM
http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclenews/view/the_return_of_the_ducati_ss_range/6348.html (http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclenews/view/the_return_of_the_ducati_ss_range/6348.html)

(http://www.visordown.com/news/images/la-duc.jpg)

Even if it's just a dream, we can still dream about it.
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: ghostrider on February 05, 2009, 08:21:56 AM
I'm dreaming, that would be awsome.  [beer]
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: sugarcrook on February 05, 2009, 09:07:44 AM
The drawing looks like it was made by the same guy that produced the drawing of what everyone thought was the new Streetfighter. 
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on February 05, 2009, 09:20:27 AM
I've never quite understood the supersport. As far as I can tell, they look similar to an sbk, without the performance.....and they have the power of a monster....without the comfort.


What the hell am I missing here?
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: ghostrider on February 05, 2009, 09:37:40 AM
The riding position on my 97 SS is halfway between a sbk and a monster. So it's comfortable over a long distance and not a rack like the sbk.
Now DQ's SS is a more aggressive riding position which requires a clip on mod to make it nice around town.
The thing I really like about the SS is the fact you have Monster power in a sportier package.
Lets be honest a 120hp+ bike on the street is not really necessary, at least it would be to much for me. So without a SS in the Ducati lineup my options are Monster/Hyper or a SBK. Not what I want or need.
If you want to try the SS let me know and you can take it out, it might clear things up far you.
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: sfarchie on February 05, 2009, 09:42:24 AM
Noticed the same swingarm as the M696. Wonder if it'll catch the same crap as the 696 did.
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: desmoquattro on February 05, 2009, 09:47:27 AM
Quote from: MrIncredible on February 05, 2009, 09:20:27 AM
I've never quite understood the supersport. As far as I can tell, they look similar to an sbk, without the performance.....and they have the power of a monster....without the comfort.


What the hell am I missing here?

She SS is extremely comfortable. In fact, I can sit mine longer than I can ride the Monster (various reasons for this).

And performance comes in many areas, not just engine power. Mine's got 85hp, and I often run circles around superbikes at the track...especially Sears Point. The suspension is great, the torque is there from down low, and it's extremely settled and confidence-inspiring in the corners. The main thing about the SS is just how rideable it is. Everyone who gets on that thing wants to take it home.
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: TCK! on February 05, 2009, 10:47:49 AM
Looks pretty good, I've never been a fan of the in circulation SS, the styling just doesn't do it for me. I would be interested in this. I don't need or want 120+ hp the street, I can get myself in enough trouble with what I've got already.
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: remy on February 05, 2009, 12:28:57 PM
Quote from: desmoquattro on February 05, 2009, 09:47:27 AM
She SS is extremely comfortable. In fact, I can sit mine longer than I can ride the Monster (various reasons for this).

And performance comes in many areas, not just engine power. Mine's got 85hp, and I often run circles around superbikes at the track...especially Sears Point. The suspension is great, the torque is there from down low, and it's extremely settled and confidence-inspiring in the corners. The main thing about the SS is just how rideable it is. Everyone who gets on that thing wants to take it home.

Exactly what I was thinking.
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: Desmostro on February 05, 2009, 01:05:17 PM
Quote from: desmoquattro on February 05, 2009, 09:47:27 AM
She SS is extremely comfortable. In fact, I can sit mine longer than I can ride the Monster (various reasons for this).

And performance comes in many areas, not just engine power. Mine's got 85hp, and I often run circles around superbikes at the track...especially Sears Point. The suspension is great, the torque is there from down low, and it's extremely settled and confidence-inspiring in the corners. The main thing about the SS is just how rideable it is. Everyone who gets on that thing wants to take it home.

+1

Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: Dainesedan on February 05, 2009, 01:10:06 PM
I wouldn't get too excited.  Bezzi has a long and glorious tradition of cranking out illustration after illustration of supposed new designs that never come to fruition.  To my knowledge, he has never penned a design that has been picked up by any manufacturer.  Some of his bikes look great, some are way over the top, but in all, they are just styling exercises for his portfolio.
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: enzo on February 05, 2009, 05:51:58 PM
I'd buy it, if it came with a watch and a bottle of wine.
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: ducati_tim on February 05, 2009, 07:47:31 PM
Quote from: desmoquattro on February 05, 2009, 08:15:57 AM
http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclenews/view/the_return_of_the_ducati_ss_range/6348.html (http://www.visordown.com/motorcyclenews/view/the_return_of_the_ducati_ss_range/6348.html)

(http://www.visordown.com/news/images/la-duc.jpg)

Even if it's just a dream, we can still dream about it.

To me it looks like this:
(http://www.svgamer.com/motorcycles/Triumph%20675.jpg)
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: Blake on February 05, 2009, 09:05:06 PM
Yep, I agree ^^^^ too Daytona-ish, which isn't bad, it just isn't unique either. 

Later

Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: remy on February 06, 2009, 10:07:19 AM
Quote from: ducati_tim on February 05, 2009, 07:47:31 PM
To me it looks like this:
(http://www.svgamer.com/motorcycles/Triumph%20675.jpg)

Hahah. Bezzi burn!
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: ducnymph on February 06, 2009, 02:47:34 PM
I've never ridden a SS and have never been a huge fan, but if the new models look like that then I'm gonna have to go for a ride!  ;)
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: MendoDave on February 07, 2009, 08:36:25 AM
Make the sharp edges go away.
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: Duck-Stew on February 09, 2009, 09:07:16 AM
Too CBR-GSXR-Ninja-Triumph-ish for me.  Where the hell are the sexy Italian curves?!?

(but then again, look at ANY current Bimota...  [roll] )
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: ducati_tim on February 09, 2009, 10:34:24 PM
I wish they could get back towards this:
(http://www.steves-motorcycles.co.uk/ducati/900-supersport/ducati-900-supersport.jpg)

I love that bike.
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: sroberts152 on February 10, 2009, 11:05:54 AM
no image...
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: Speeddog on February 10, 2009, 01:04:51 PM
Pic is of an early SS.

http://www.steves-motorcycles.co.uk/ducati/900-supersport/ducati-900-supersport.jpg (http://www.steves-motorcycles.co.uk/ducati/900-supersport/ducati-900-supersport.jpg)
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: Drunken Monkey on February 10, 2009, 07:31:24 PM
Curves please.

It's like every designer is in love with the f-117  [puke]

(http://cdn.globalaircraft.org/media/img/planes/lowres/f-117-3.jpg)

Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: desmoquattro on February 10, 2009, 08:05:09 PM
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on February 10, 2009, 07:31:24 PM
Curves please.

It's like every designer is in love with the f-117  [puke]

Hmm...let's see...slow, ugly, mostly obsolete, largely unseen by others, yet still a lot of fun to pilot. Describes the Supersport to a tee ;D
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: ghostrider on February 11, 2009, 08:59:32 AM
FWIW, I know a few guys who used to fly that thing. Their words " flys like an 18 wheeler" or " the C130 handles better".
If the SS was an aircraft it would have to be the A7.
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: remy on February 11, 2009, 11:18:32 AM
Quote from: ghostrider on February 11, 2009, 08:59:32 AM
FWIW, I know a few guys who used to fly that thing. Their words " flys like an 18 wheeler" or " the C130 handles better".
If the SS was an aircraft it would have to be the A7.

From a pilot who rides an SS I'll take your word for it!  ;D
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: enzo on February 11, 2009, 12:24:45 PM
I'm no pilot, but I saw a thang on TV that said the F-117 is impossible to fly without computers keeping it steady.  So naturally, the new SS should have traction control.
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: ghostrider on February 11, 2009, 01:23:52 PM
Quote from: enzo on February 11, 2009, 12:24:45 PM
I'm no pilot, but I saw a thang on TV that said the F-117 is impossible to fly without computers keeping it steady.  So naturally, the new SS should have traction control.


Don't forget the slipper clutch.

Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: Speeddog on February 11, 2009, 03:44:32 PM
Quote from: enzo on February 11, 2009, 12:24:45 PM
I'm no pilot, but I saw a thang on TV that said the F-117 is impossible to fly without computers keeping it steady.  So naturally, the new SS should have traction control.


AFAIK, every fighter plane built in the last 20 years (or more) falls into that same category.
Title: Re: New Supersport? We Can Only Hope...
Post by: ghostrider on February 11, 2009, 10:06:34 PM
Sure does. Aerodynamically unstable. It's what makes them so agile. The F-22 is the first real US aircraft to put this to use. The F-117 was a complete compromise to achieve some stealth.
Now take the most agility you can think of and give it almost 200,000 lbs of thrust, thats what I call fun. I miss fighters  :'(