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Title: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: CMDRDAVE on February 07, 2009, 07:20:13 PM
I need to pick up a back protector for my first track day.  I thought this would be easy but there are quite a few to choose from.  I'm tall so fit might be an issue.  The requirement that I am looking at says "Back protector - Hard shell, sanctioned race org approved (i.e. Dianese, Knox,  Bohn, etc)" 
Any recommendations?  Thanks in advance. 
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: Spidey on February 07, 2009, 07:35:28 PM
T-Pro or Helimot.  'nuff said.  I think Joe Rocket also sells a re-badged T-pro for less than T-Pro charges for it's Forcefield BP (edit:  its called the speedmaster).  Technically the T-Pro doesn't have a hard shell, but that's not what your track provider is getting at.  They just want to be sure you aren't using a cheap, in-jacket foam back protector that comes with the jacket. 

There are few other BPs other than the T-Pro that are Level 2 certified.  The Helimot BP isn't rated.  They don't submit them for testing because it's too costly.  But you'll find a bizillion racers who vouch for Helimot's armor and their BPs.

Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: Buckethead on February 07, 2009, 07:44:42 PM
Quote from: XJDAVE on February 07, 2009, 07:20:13 PM
I need to pick up a back protector for my first track day.  I thought this would be easy but there are quite a few to choose from.  I'm tall so fit might be an issue.  The requirement that I am looking at says "Back protector - Hard shell, sanctioned race org approved (i.e. Dianese, Knox,  Bohn, etc)" 
Any recommendations?  Thanks in advance. 

Oooh. You're looking at Boston Moto, too? What dates were you looking at?
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: CMDRDAVE on February 07, 2009, 08:09:57 PM
Quote from: Obsessed? on February 07, 2009, 07:44:42 PM
Oooh. You're looking at Boston Moto, too? What dates were you looking at?

Nope, Cornerspeed at VIR
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: Buckethead on February 07, 2009, 08:19:48 PM
DOH!  [bang]

;)
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: teddy037.2 on February 19, 2009, 11:58:48 PM
spidey's the guy to listen to for track gear  [thumbsup]

and I still say them leathers should be made into a throw rug w/a lid...
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: Vin on February 22, 2009, 06:59:45 PM
Dainese - Air full spine.

Crash tested.


Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: teddy037.2 on February 22, 2009, 11:25:08 PM
Quote from: Vin on February 22, 2009, 06:59:45 PM
Crash tested.

so's spidey  ;D

what was it? official DML crash tester?

as far as I'm concerned, he could be my gear bible  ;)
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: Vin on February 23, 2009, 04:11:07 AM
 [thumbsup]

I agree I have met the man the Legend!

I rode with the MOB a few years back - we cruised up i think the 1 and ended at the D store for a BBQ - actually bought the Air that day...

All I know is I high sided in France bounced of a guard rail and back into the swing arm of my bike doing 30 or 40 mph. Impact was enough that the whiplash broke my neck. My lower back was so lack and blue i look like i was worked over with a bat. That said, lower back had zero fractures (4 ribs, my leg and my wrist were also broken but not the lower back....)

I can say that if I hadn't been wearing a full spine I most likely wouldn't be walking today.

Like a helmet dont skimp on back protection - its $$$ but it works.
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: sbrguy on February 23, 2009, 12:07:07 PM
anyone have teh knox contour? that is promoted by sportbiketrackgear.com?

the only thing i see with teh tpro is that it doesn't have much in shoulderblade protection like the  knox model.

any first hand with the knox would be appreciated.  thanks.
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: Monster Dave on March 05, 2009, 08:40:43 AM
Dainese Wave.

+1  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: DoubleEagle on March 21, 2009, 12:09:22 AM
I have the Dainese Wave V and also a BMW Back Protector that has passed the EU Certification which is more rigorous than US CE.     

I'm  6' 5", 250 lbs. currently.    Dolph      :) 
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: CDawg on April 05, 2009, 03:07:00 PM
+1 on T-Pro
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: WarrenJ on April 17, 2009, 11:44:17 AM
How does the Vanson back protector compare to the aforementioned?
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: Spidey on April 17, 2009, 11:55:25 AM
Not as good (just my opinion).  Vanson has a thin foam and a hard turtle shell.  It transfers a lot more of the energy than something energy-absorbent like T-Pro.  That said, I've taken two (three?) big hits to the back in Vanson back protectors.  They work.  But both times involved a lot of physical therapy to deal with really sore back muscles afterward.  I wonder if I would have been less sore with a T-Pro.  I've since changed out my Vanson back protectors for T-Pro and/or Helimot. 
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: Triple J on April 17, 2009, 02:07:53 PM
I have the Dainese Air back protector. I think it's the same concept as T-Pro. It has an open honeycomb structure, as opposed to the shell/foam of something like the Vanson. It's really comfortable too.

http://tinyurl.com/ddubes (http://tinyurl.com/ddubes)
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: Dainesedan on April 17, 2009, 02:24:18 PM
We also offer a new back protector called the Back Shield Air that is a continuation of the Wave's design theory utilizing a honeycomb structure, but offers better coverage, has more articulation both front to back and side to side, and is rated CE2 as well as EN 1621-2 (which as noted is a more rigorous test than CE2).  On top of all that, it is less money than the original Wave at $160.00.

http://www.dainese.com/us_en/motorbike/back-shield-7-8-air.html?destinazione_uso=45&cat=41 (http://www.dainese.com/us_en/motorbike/back-shield-7-8-air.html?destinazione_uso=45&cat=41)
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: Triple J on April 17, 2009, 03:07:12 PM
 ;D ^^^

Exact same product that I linked.  ;)
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: IdZer0 on April 17, 2009, 03:21:05 PM
But you still need to replace the Shield Air after a fall/crash wright? I understand the TPro doesn't need replacement after a fall (I'm lookling to use it for Snowboarding too)

Anyone experience with Knox Contour? STG seems to like especially because it covers more surface than most others do.
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: Dainesedan on April 17, 2009, 06:24:51 PM
Quote from: IdZer0 on April 17, 2009, 03:21:05 PM
But you still need to replace the Shield Air after a fall/crash wright? I understand the TPro doesn't need replacement after a fall (I'm lookling to use it for Snowboarding too)

Anyone experience with Knox Contour? STG seems to like especially because it covers more surface than most others do.

Regardless of what some manufacturers may claim, just like a helmet, a back protector should be replaced after a get-off where it takes an impact.  If any piece of protection has done it's job and absorbed and dispersed the engergy of an impact, that point of impact will forever be compromised.  Your spine is not something to gamble with.

As for a dual purpose back protector, we also make the Shield Air in a snow version complete with Ricco avalanche detection.  It's the exact same contruction, meeting the same testing standards and can be used on the street as well.

http://www.dainese.com/us_en/multisport-winter/shield-7-8-air.html?cat=75 (http://www.dainese.com/us_en/multisport-winter/shield-7-8-air.html?cat=75)

Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: He Man on April 17, 2009, 10:35:06 PM
doesnt that depend on the type of material they use? I thought that was mainly applied to helmets bcause of the styromean they use, once it absorbs the energy the shape changes forever.

I am looking at getting a back protector too, iwas thinking about the kobe backprotectors, look good nad CE cert for about $60
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: 1313 on April 19, 2009, 05:21:28 PM
I wear the Back Shield 7 Air. It's pretty comfortable.
Title: Re: Back Protector - Reccomendations?
Post by: AjMcQuillan on April 24, 2009, 08:59:10 PM
I dont have any back protector, but this one looked good.

http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Dainese_Gilet_Wave_2_Neck--614080.html (http://www.kneedraggers.com/details/Dainese_Gilet_Wave_2_Neck--614080.html)

Does front and back.