I've been using PJ1 Blue Label for my chain, but was wondering if there is anything better. I like it but I am getting a bit of spray on fender. Suggestions? Favorites?
Maxima chain wax
Silkolene Pro Chain Lube
Good stuff, no fling - use it for both dirt & street, doesn't attact stuff, holds really well.
Dupont Teflon Multipurpose lubricant. Has worked great so far..
Quote from: EEL on May 14, 2008, 01:43:09 PM
Dupont Teflon Multipurpose lubricant. Has worked great so far..
+1 Great stuff
+2 DuPont Teflon.
Chain stays clean, flingless, and it smells piña colada WD40 when applied.
Oh, also cheap and available (Home Depot, Lowes, or equal).
Wurth dry lube
Maxima chain wax here. Used to use PJ1 and got lots of fling on my fender and underside of my seat. >:( Switched to Maxima and I get less but my chain seems to stiffen up much faster. ??? After a short ride I can wiggle it just fine but if the bike's been sitting a few days it sometimes feels like I have a few frozen links. They loosen up after a short ride but it's still a little disconcerting.
I tried finding the Dupont stuff when I read about it on ToB but I couldn't find it at my Home Depot. Could someone post a pic of the can they have? All the stuff at my Home Depot said not for use on o-ring chains. :-\
Motul Chain Lube - amazing stuff;
It goes on thin; cleans off the black oily crud; I mean it literally disolves and dripps off the black oily stuff after a WD 40 cleaning (after drying); and dries as a heavy clear coat.
The beast advantage is you've got this clear coat so you can see the chain and know when its time to re-lube. Its somewhat pricy; I'm paying 12 bucks a can, but haven't done an extensive online search on price ; I just bought a second can.
One problem-o there may be some fling; I have noticed a tiny bit of the occasional black fleck of oil on my pants; but that could be time for a new chain too, or the WD 40 clean ....
Cheers DuciD [moto]
Maxima chain wax. I was using something else but got tired of the fling and the mess. Every pair of pants I have has a tiny grease spot in the same place. Maxima has no mess and no fling. I think it's probably not as good as the messier, oil based lubes but your only lubing the o-rings anyway. The o-rings hold in the grease that lube the links.
Scott
Dupont is available at ALL Lowe's
Not at home despot..
Quote from: erkishhorde on May 14, 2008, 02:59:35 PM
Could someone post a pic of the can they have? All the stuff at my Home Depot said not for use on o-ring chains. :-\
http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/dupont-teflon-chain-lube.htm (http://www.webbikeworld.com/t2/motorcycle-chain-lube/dupont-teflon-chain-lube.htm)
I got it from an ACE Hardware store for like $6
(yuu da man ;) )
Quote from: EEL on May 14, 2008, 01:43:09 PM
Dupont Teflon Multipurpose lubricant. Has worked great so far..
another +1. love it, very clean, with almost no stretch in 8000 miles. and its still clean.
It is not a longlasting application, by that mean, don't spray it on and leave it in the elements and expect it not to rust. It is good with re applying every 500 miles or so. IMO
Quote from: Pakhan on May 14, 2008, 01:35:24 PM
Maxima chain wax
+4 - Chris
ps, the cleaning is important. So is applying it when chain has some heat (ie after a ride), spray on, then wipe off all excess and clean sprockets while your there. Remove front sprocket cover and clean there well.
I'm a Motorex fan. Notice the lack of consensus. Just use what works for you.
Another one for Motorex. Apply it to a warm chain, let it sit and wipe of the excess. Stays reasonably clean, minimal fling.
Maxima
DuPont Teflon Multi-Use Lubricant
(http://images.lowes.com/product/converted/036121/036121191570md.jpg)
I just sprayed some on my chain last night.
I've been using it long enough to go through the full life of one chain. The chain lasted 13,000 miles, which is pretty typical for me, and about the same as with Maxima Chain wax. It still looked beautiful, but had stretched unevenly so that there were tight spots and loose spots. It might have been adjusted a bit too tight at one time or something.
I like the Teflon stuff because it attracts less dirt, has less stuff flinging off onto my wheel (although Maxima Chain wax was pretty good in that area too), and smells nicer when you apply it. Plus it is a great lubricant for a lot of other things that you can't use Chain Wax on.
As far as I know, about the only place you can buy it is at Lowe's.
Motorex-Racing.
Quote from: EEL on May 14, 2008, 01:43:09 PM
Dupont Teflon Multipurpose lubricant. Has worked great so far..
+ another...
Quote from: scooby on May 15, 2008, 06:30:34 AM
+ another...
+1 more, although I recently picked up the liquid bottle form and it's pretty nice not getting overspray over everything... didn't pick it up on purpose, but have a bunch of bottles of it now that I gotta get through...
Quote from: hiero on May 15, 2008, 06:36:02 AM
although I recently picked up the liquid bottle form <snip>
Yup, I bought a small liquid bottle to keep in my tank bag for longer trips (+500 miles) so I can lube up up en route...
So for you guys using the Dupont, what do you use as a cleaner? Say if I were to switch, I'd likely clean off the old chain wax before putting on the Dupont. Thing with Maxima is that I use it as a cleaner and a lube. I'm not terribly fond of the idea of hosing my chain down with WD40 like some people say. I'm one of the paranoid types that thinks it could get to the O-ring inside and eat it up. So what else could I use?
I use kerosene. It works much better than WD-40 and is good for cleaning other things as well. It's safe for chain O-rings. Plus if your lights go out, you can put it in one of those old "oil" lamps and burn it to provide light.
I bought about two gallons at the local Orchard Supply Hardware store, which should last me twenty or thirty years.
Quote from: ScottRNelson on May 15, 2008, 08:27:08 AM
I use kerosene. It works much better than WD-40 and is good for cleaning other things as well. It's safe for chain O-rings. Plus if your lights go out, you can put it in one of those old "oil" lamps and burn it to provide light.
I bought about two gallons at the local Orchard Supply Hardware store, which should last me twenty or thirty years.
+1 kerosene's great for all kinds of grease clean up on top of being great on the chain...
Quote from: hiero on May 15, 2008, 09:08:56 AM
+1 kerosene's great for all kinds of grease clean up on top of being great on the chain...
+1; and its cheap as shit too... [laugh]
+1 more for kerosene for cleaning. Works great, but eats up my plastic cleaning tools.
WD40 is pretty much kerosene.
Quote from: Dan on May 15, 2008, 02:15:15 PM
WD40 is pretty much kerosene.
Where did you get that from?
It's quite a bit different. Kerosene leaves less of a residue when you use it, and doesn't work nearly as well for freeing stuck and rusted bolts and things.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40
I guess 'pretty much' may have been a bit strong, but close
WD-40 stops cocaine use.
http://www.cocaine-addiction.co.uk/index.php?p=21&c=1 (http://www.cocaine-addiction.co.uk/index.php?p=21&c=1)
Quote from: Dan on May 15, 2008, 02:28:55 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WD-40
I guess 'pretty much' may have been a bit strong, but close
I think I just learned something after looking that up.
So WD-40 is 50% something kind of like kerosene and 50% other stuff.
I've used both and consider kerosene to be better for cleaning chains than WD-40. I keep a small bottle of kerosene around when I'm working on the bike and dip a rag into it to use for chain and sprocket cleaning. No overspray that way, and it easily dissolves the stuff I want to remove. If the chain is really bad, I'll dip an old toothbrush into the kerosene and clean about eight inches at a time. It leaves my chain shiny clean afterwards.
Quote from: ScottRNelson on May 15, 2008, 03:46:30 PM
I think I just learned something after looking that up.
So WD-40 is 50% something kind of like kerosene and 50% other stuff.
I've used both and consider kerosene to be better for cleaning chains than WD-40. I keep a small bottle of kerosene around when I'm working on the bike and dip a rag into it to use for chain and sprocket cleaning. No overspray that way, and it easily dissolves the stuff I want to remove. If the chain is really bad, I'll dip an old toothbrush into the kerosene and clean about eight inches at a time. It leaves my chain shiny clean afterwards.
[thumbsup] i get down with the toothbrush too
Motorex Strong (supposed to be longer lasting than the race formulation)
It seems to be pretty much a wax. I get some fling, but not too bad if I apply on a warm chain then wipe down.
I like the fact that I could buy a tiny spray can that I can refill from the big ones ;D Always have several applications in my tank bag without having to buy a stupid expensive little bottle all the time.
Must say I'm tempted to try the Dupont Teflon though...
Cleaning the outside of your chain with WD-40 on a rag is fine. Dowsing it with WD-40, not so fine. The WD-40 can get past the O rings and dilute the permanent lube. Unless my chain is absolutely disgusting I use chain lube as the cleaner. I find less fling with this method.
I use whatever I can find. I'm not too concerned though, I don't see it as a problem if I have to replace the chain a few thousand miles earlier if at all. The one thing I don't like is the white looking lube, something just doesn't seem right about it.
I hate the white stuff too, looks like gooky spider webs all over the chain. A local dealer uses this and it's caked all over every chain of every use bike in the showroom. Guys, excess lube on the outside plates does not extend chain life, it just collects dirt! I guess it makes it look like the bike has been serviced.
Scott
I've used Finish Line Citrus Degreaser for all my bicycles and motorbikes but never on a motorbike chain so I am not sure if it will get inside the inner rings. What I do know is that it is amazing stuff...a little pricey but not bad for the environment and smells delicious. We use to have a parts cleaner full of it. It rinses away with water too!
http://www.finishlineusa.com/products/citrus-cleaner.htm
WD40 base is Stoddards Solvent
Dupont Teflon Multipurpose lubricant. 7,000 miles and no hassles
First motorcycle, first chain care product, Castrol Chain Wax.
It works fine as far as I can tell. Being that it is the only one I've ever used. Very little fling.
I've wanted to try the Dupont Teflon lubricant since I first read about it. It will be my next chain lube.
Now to find a product to clean the chain. Why is it, that there are lots of chain lubes out there but hardly any chain cleaners?
I use the Motul chain lube, and it gets fling everywhere. I'm definitely switching to something else.
I want to try the Dupont, but I also want something I can stick in my tank bag, so I may go with the Maxima wax. Does anyone know if there is a consequence to switching back and forth?
Quote from: DucHockey on May 17, 2008, 09:35:31 AM
I use the Motul chain lube, and it gets fling everywhere. I'm definitely switching to something else.
I want to try the Dupont, but I also want something I can stick in my tank bag, so I may go with the Maxima wax. Does anyone know if there is a consequence to switching back and forth?
No FHE, but I'd be surprised if the wax would stay on an oiled chain.
Quote from: DucHockey on May 17, 2008, 09:35:31 AM
I want to try the Dupont, but I also want something I can stick in my tank bag <snip>
You can get this little liquid bottle at www.Aerostich.com (and probably elsewhere). I keep one in my under the seat tool kit for longer rides (+500 miles) ...
(http://www.aerostich.com/files/images/4966_1a_sm.jpg)
Quote from: Dan on May 17, 2008, 10:55:02 AM
No FHE, but I'd be surprised if the wax would stay on an oiled chain.
That is an excellent point, which I had not considered.
Quote from: scooby on May 17, 2008, 11:07:43 AM
You can get this little liquid bottle at www.Aerostich.com (and probably elsewhere). I keep one in my under the seat tool kit for longer rides (+500 miles) ...
(http://www.aerostich.com/files/images/4966_1a_sm.jpg)
that's what I've been using for a while now