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Moto Board => Racing & Trackdays => Topic started by: vaclav on March 11, 2009, 02:24:30 PM

Title: Racing bodywork on a monster?
Post by: vaclav on March 11, 2009, 02:24:30 PM
Has anybody fitted full bodywork on to a S2R 1000? What brand? How'd it work out? Pics? I am planning to do some trackdays this year and want to get my bike more protection should I happen to hit the pavement. I had Sharkskinz on my old race bike. I think it helped quite a bit when I went down. I did some searches and only found one thread. http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=19611.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=19611.0)
Title: Re: Racing bodywork on a monster?
Post by: Spidey on March 11, 2009, 02:31:36 PM
Others have done it, but fasterblkduc is the one to talk to around here.  His racing series (in Minnesota, I believe) has an entire class of monsters with bodywork -- everything from 1098 to 748, etc.  Unfortunately, I think they're all 620s, but the frame is largely the same as the s2r1000 (minus the difference with the exhaust).  That said, he might be able to point you in the right direction.

Ducman851 has done it too on a 620 (that he hopped up to 800 or so), but I'm not sure if he's on the DMF.  You might be able to find him at sportbikes.net or possibly at Coastal Ducati Club.

Attaching bodywork be a lot of work and a lot of cost if you're doing it just for protection if you go down.  I'm not sure the cost/benefit would work out for you, but if you want a project, it's as good as any. 
Title: Re: Racing bodywork on a monster?
Post by: gm2 on March 11, 2009, 02:45:24 PM
if this is just for track days then frame sliders, bar-end sliders, case sliders, and axle sliders will get you most of the benefit of bodywork, without 75% of the hassle.

then again, like spidey said, if you're just looking for a project... you found one.  :)
Title: Re: Racing bodywork on a monster?
Post by: killerniceguy on March 11, 2009, 09:24:17 PM
I am racing my S2R800 his year and after spending hours of tinkering and fiddling with half fairing, full 916 race fairing and just about every combination of fairing you can think of I have the following advice.:

If you ever want to ride your bike on the street installing a fairing of any race track value is not practical and in all honesty not worth the time.  Buy a 748, it is cheaper and a million times easier.  If you want to make your monster a track only bike never to be converted to the street again it is quite easy, but it will involve welding tabs to the frame, modifications to steering head for the fairing stay and some creativity.

Here is a good one:
www.knightroadraceteam.co.uk (//http://)

I have chosen to install a Triumph Thruxton fairing from Sharskinz to eliminate the headlight and OEM fairing.  It will work and provide a more vintage look.

Gm2 - where do you get case sliders from? I have everything else you mentioned.

KNG

Quote from: gm2 on March 11, 2009, 02:45:24 PM
if this is just for track days then frame sliders, bar-end sliders, case sliders, and axle sliders will get you most of the benefit of bodywork, without 75% of the hassle.

then again, like spidey said, if you're just looking for a project... you found one.  :)
Title: Re: Racing bodywork on a monster?
Post by: gm2 on March 11, 2009, 09:33:45 PM
woodcraft makes some of the most common case sliders/protectors.  don't know for sure that they make them for monsters.
Title: Re: Racing bodywork on a monster?
Post by: derby on March 11, 2009, 10:06:53 PM
Quote from: gm2 on March 11, 2009, 09:33:45 PM

don't know for sure that they make them for monsters.


they're the same as all the other ducs, remember?  ;D
Title: Re: Racing bodywork on a monster?
Post by: gm2 on March 11, 2009, 10:14:13 PM
Quote from: derby on March 11, 2009, 10:06:53 PM
they're the same as all the other ducs, remember?  ;D

nah.. why would i remember that?  ;)
Title: Re: Racing bodywork on a monster?
Post by: fasterblkduc on March 12, 2009, 05:30:26 AM
These guys are right. Unless you're racing, it's not really worth it. You will get an aerodynamic benefit but bodywork will not give you much crash protection...a little but not much. I've crashed my monster racing several times and the bodywork usually gets minor scrapes. It really is a huge job to mount the body. Framesliders, barend sliders, case covers, and swingarm spools will save you a lot of damage.


But if you're just looking for a cool project, then go nuts [beer]
Title: Re: Racing bodywork on a monster?
Post by: killerniceguy on March 12, 2009, 05:46:36 AM

Can someone post a link for case covers for a monster or universal fit?  I am not sure I understand what a case cover actually is...

KNG

Quote from: fasterblkduc on March 12, 2009, 05:30:26 AM
These guys are right. Unless you're racing, it's not really worth it. You will get an aerodynamic benefit but bodywork will not give you much crash protection...a little but not much. I've crashed my monster racing several times and the bodywork usually gets minor scrapes. It really is a huge job to mount the body. Framesliders, barend sliders, case covers, and swingarm spools will save you a lot of damage.


But if you're just looking for a cool project, then go nuts [beer]
Title: Re: Racing bodywork on a monster?
Post by: zooom on March 12, 2009, 06:57:54 AM
my .02 on the subject is this....you are doing this for track days which means you want relative ease so that you can convert back to street more easily.

as someone who has gone down on my track Monster at the track, full bodywork will protect the outermost engine cases to an extent...but it won't help with much else in that regard and frame sliders can do the relatively same job as full bodywork to an extent...granted though, you don't plan on going down, but I understand the wanting of protection just in case. My reccomendation would be for frame sliders and fixed foot pegs for the bike to slide on in that case. then go with a nice front headlight fairing or an upper quarter fairing for wind deflection. You can go to the for sale link to my track bike in my sig line for pic links and it has my track pregnant dog in it's current quarter fairing glory and it when it had full bodywork....you can make a bracket to go around the steering neck tube for to bolt a fairing stay onto, or you can use your current headlight mounting bracketry to get an old school Dunstall type fairing for you to tuck behind in the points where you might be accelerating down a straight into the wind and not wanting to be a human sail....
Title: Re: Racing bodywork on a monster?
Post by: vaclav on March 12, 2009, 07:39:43 PM
Thanks for the feedback. I already have the Speedymoto frame, front axle, and rear axle sliders. I am surprised that more people don't feel like I do about the bodywork. I suppose it somewhat depends on the brand of bodywork you buy and the kind of crashes you have. My sharkskinz survived multiple lowsides no problem. Also, I never really minded switching back and forth from street to track setup on the SV too much. However, I am definitely not looking for something to throw money at for minimal benefit. I am not that worried about aerodynamics, just minimizing damage. I will look at the case savers. I guess that and the barend sliders are about all that is left.
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