Any body know the procedure?
Ignition on, bike in second gear, push up to about 10 mph, let out clutch, pull it back in when it starts.
You can check this yourself very easily by riding the bike in second gear at low speed somewhere away from traffic, pull in the clutch and hit the kill switch, then turn it back on, and let out the clutch to restart. Try it again at a lower speed until you find the speed that is too low to start it. Try it once or twice in first gear to find out why you need to do it in second gear. Try it in third gear to find out the minimum speed to start it in that gear, and another reason why you should use second gear.
It won't hurt your bike a bit to do this and you'll learn something useful.
Derby:
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=14561.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=14561.0)
Quote from: Monster Dave on May 13, 2009, 08:48:57 AM
Derby:
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=14561.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=14561.0)
The only thing I can add to that one is that if the battery is dead, don't leave the key on for half a minute while you're putting on your helmet and talking to the camera. Keep it off until you're ready to start moving, then make that the last step before pushing and starting the bike.
Quote from: ScottRNelson on May 13, 2009, 09:13:23 AM
The only thing I can add to that one is that if the battery is dead, don't leave the key on for half a minute while you're putting on your helmet and talking to the camera. Keep it off until you're ready to start moving, then make that the last step before pushing and starting the bike.
....picky picky..... [cheeky]
so the slipper clutch doesn't stop push starting?
Quote from: ScottRNelson on May 12, 2009, 08:38:23 PM
Ignition on, bike in second gear, push up to about 10 mph, let out clutch, pull it back in when it starts.
You can check this yourself very easily by riding the bike in second gear at low speed somewhere away from traffic, pull in the clutch and hit the kill switch, then turn it back on, and let out the clutch to restart. Try it again at a lower speed until you find the speed that is too low to start it. Try it once or twice in first gear to find out why you need to do it in second gear. Try it in third gear to find out the minimum speed to start it in that gear, and another reason why you should use second gear.
It won't hurt your bike a bit to do this and you'll learn something useful.
i've done it on 3rd/4th gear...am i doing something wrong?
Quote from: M620D on June 23, 2009, 05:56:42 PM
i've done it on 3rd/4th gear...am i doing something wrong?
How fast was the bike moving at the time?
Quote from: M620D on June 23, 2009, 05:56:42 PM
i've done it on 3rd/4th gear...am i doing something wrong?
Being up that high in the gears would require you to be moving pretty quick to get it to do that - that would be a lot harder than 2nd gear to get you going.
Big, long hill?
Quote from: Monster Dave on June 24, 2009, 07:54:42 AM
Being up that high in the gears would require you to be moving pretty quick to get it to do that - that would be a lot harder than 2nd gear to get you going.
Quote from: howie on June 24, 2009, 06:52:27 PM
Big, long hill?
Well yes, I do live on a hill, but, first time it happened I was at work and is quite flat, got up to about 15kph[10mph] and started just fine....
Second gear and pop it,doesn't need too much speed,it's all about timing.
Thank you for posting this thread. I was stuck in my office garage with a dead starter and/or battery. I remembered this thread, tried it, and it started with no problem. I wasn't digging the idea of leaving my bike downtown. Thank you again [thumbsup]
I'm glad that our experiences helped you - that's something that you'll always remember how to do now and not end up feeling stranded.
[thumbsup]
Quote from: M620D on June 27, 2009, 03:47:44 PM
Well yes, I do live on a hill, but, first time it happened I was at work and is quite flat, got up to about 15kph[10mph] and started just fine....
Nothing wrong with a higher gear - just usually means you'll need some more speed is all. But hey, it's been working for you so why change.
Quote from: M620D on June 23, 2009, 05:56:42 PM
i've done it on 3rd/4th gear...am i doing something wrong?
Nope.
I find 3rd easier on my M750. 2nd usually needs a little bit of a bounce on the seat to get enough traction - 3rd works without bouncing on the seat and you don't need to be going any faster than a vigorous "seated waddle" to get it to start.
big (my significantly shortened gearing may be affecting that too, I've got 14/43 instead of 15/41)
What ever you do don't do it like this.
How NOT to pop the clutch on a motorcycle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi6N5Iyqfwk&NR=1#normal)
Quote from: LowThudd on January 04, 2010, 10:14:30 AM
What ever you do don't do it like this.
How NOT to pop the clutch on a motorcycle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wi6N5Iyqfwk&NR=1#normal)
is this jackass 3?
Do you have to be riding the bike or are you pushing it from the side? If you're pushing it, do you just pull the clutch back in once the engine kicks over? I've never push started a bike before.
Quote from: Adamm3406 on January 05, 2010, 12:04:56 PM
Do you have to be riding the bike or are you pushing it from the side? If you're pushing it, do you just pull the clutch back in once the engine kicks over? I've never push started a bike before.
easy riding it down a hill or having a friend push.
Good to know.
Down a driveway worked for me. I just power walked it out and popped it.
Quote from: Adamm3406 on January 05, 2010, 12:04:56 PM
Do you have to be riding the bike or are you pushing it from the side? If you're pushing it, do you just pull the clutch back in once the engine kicks over? I've never push started a bike before.
I've done it from the side and from on it, depending on location.
Obviously, it's easiest if you can be on the bike.
Quote from: Jetbrett on August 14, 2009, 07:43:42 PM
Thank you for posting this thread. I was stuck in my office garage with a dead starter and/or battery. I remembered this thread, tried it, and it started with no problem. I wasn't digging the idea of leaving my bike downtown. Thank you again [thumbsup]
Someone help me understand how bump-starting could work with a dead battery, given the electric fuel pump, electric fuel injection, electronic ignition, and so on...?
I've done countless times on carburated enduro bikes without a problem and twice on the 696 late at night when the bike has been sitting in the cold and had trouble starting (had somebody give me a push and got it running although it felt strange, then recently this happened again and there was a guy who owns a 998 and he helped get it started just by playing a little bit with the throttle and the cold starter little by little until it started and stayed running.
He said it was bad to push start fuel injected motorcycles as the oil is also controlled electronically and once you've tried to start it there will be a lot of gas and you'll startup the engine without enough oil and cause damage. Any thruth to this? It does make sense to me because both times I pushstarted it at first it smelled like unburnt fuel and he says it happens a lot to Ducatis and just start it by playing with the throttle and cold starter and not by pushstarting.
What do you guys think? Any similar experiences? Advice?
Quote from: CamelToeJockey on January 05, 2010, 03:48:32 PM
Someone help me understand how bump-starting could work with a dead battery, given the electric fuel pump, electric fuel injection, electronic ignition, and so on...?
It doesn't, if the battery is completely dead or can't hold a charge you're not able to pushstart it. The headlight won't even come on when you bump the clutch if the battery is completely dead.
Quote from: preynoso on January 05, 2010, 03:51:28 PM
I've done countless times on carburated enduro bikes without a problem and twice on the 696 late at night when the bike has been sitting in the cold and had trouble starting (had somebody give me a push and got it running although it felt strange, then recently this happened again and there was a guy who owns a 998 and he helped get it started just by playing a little bit with the throttle and the cold starter little by little until it started and stayed running.
He said it was bad to push start fuel injected motorcycles as the oil is also controlled electronically and once you've tried to start it there will be a lot of gas and you'll startup the engine without enough oil and cause damage. Any thruth to this? It does make sense to me because both times I pushstarted it at first it smelled like unburnt fuel and he says it happens a lot to Ducatis and just start it by playing with the throttle and cold starter and not by pushstarting.
What do you guys think? Any similar experiences? Advice?
I don't see how the oil is controlled electronically. That would be bad in any aplication. All ducs(and all ICE engines in general AFAIK) have mechanical pumps. I have never heard of an electronic oil pump in my life, and wouldn't want one either if it did exist. As for the gas, it doesn't matter if its carbed or ie, it is still going to flow a bit of fuel at start up(especially push starting). In fact I believe a carbed bike is far more likely to flod than ie.