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Schedule
all times LOCAL (GMT-4 hours)
Friday, 28 August 2009
125 FP1 12:40 - 13:40
MotoGP FP1 13:55 - 14:55
250 FP1 15:10 - 16:10
Saturday, 29 August 2009
125 FP2 09:00 - 09:40
MotoGP FP2 09:55 - 10:55
250 FP2 11:10 - 12:10
125 QP 13:00 - 13:40
MotoGP QP 13:55 - 14:55
250 QP 15:10 - 15:55
Sunday, 30 August 2009
125 WUP 08:40 - 09:00
250 WUP 09:10 - 09:30
MotoGP WUP 09:40 - 10:00
125 RAC 12:00
250 RAC 13:15
MotoGP RAC 15:00
Don't post it yet. I won't be leaving for Indy until next week!
hope it doesn't involve any of this
(http://7mzdt.com/images/Indy_waiting.jpg)
Yeah, that was one crazy wet race!!! I couldnt' believe how large the puddles were on the track when the BMW safety car went around!
Extended forecast for this year.......
Thunder showers on "sun" day >:(
But if it's not a monsoon AOK ;)
okay, so since this one isn't being broadcasted on SPEED, who do ya think gets to be the announcers this time around?...Greg White and Ralph Shaheen again?
and Nicky once again shows what a class act he is...
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Aug/090825b.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Aug/090825b.htm)
from this link..." Last but not least, at Indy I will wear a special helmet, but this time it really is "special ". It will carry the "Make a Wish" logo and other special designs, and after the race we will action it off. All the money will go toward the Foundation which helps kids' dreams come true. There will be pictures up on my web site to see it at nickyhayden.com. I have worked with this charity for 5 years now and it always feels good to help out such a solid cause, and yes, I have already made my wish for the weekend."
http://www.nickyhayden.com/index.cfm/p/photos-indy-helmet-09 (http://www.nickyhayden.com/index.cfm/p/photos-indy-helmet-09)
We (well, everyone but me) are rolling out on (mostly) Ducs tomorrow AM for a loop up through Canada and then down to Indy. My "ride" leaves Friday AM.... [thumbsup]
wish I was going this year...oh twell...maybe next year...
Wish I was going as well, but I'm still exhaust from paddling my duc to Indy last year
I'm heading out on thursday morning on my ZX-14 from Atlanta.
I'd love to take my Monster or 848, but no disrespect, they aren't designed for 550 miles of superslab. I hope I can still get into Ducati Island.
;D
Quote from: tufty on August 25, 2009, 02:04:19 PM
I'm heading out on thursday morning on my ZX-14 from Atlanta.
I'd love to take my Monster or 848, but no disrespect, they aren't designed for 550 miles of superslab. I hope I can still get into Ducati Island.
;D
Wear a red Duc shirt, and bring your key / registration ;D
mitt
btw.. this'll be shown on FOX live at noon PT/3 ET
We have had 3 days continual heavy rain here in Eastern Iowa, and it is moving toward IL and IN. I hope it clears up for those attending...
mitt
Quote from: zooom on August 25, 2009, 04:00:00 AM
okay, so since this one isn't being broadcasted on SPEED, who do ya think gets to be the announcers this time around?...Greg White and Ralph Shaheen again?
Probably Russell/Shaheen/White.
bikes currently on track for fp1... and it's raining.
Supposed to be dry for sat/sun. [clap]
go Nicky! 2nd for FP1
Result:
Pos No. Rider Bike Time Diff Diff Previous
1 3 Dani PEDROSA HONDA 1'51.507
2 69 Nicky HAYDEN DUCATI 1'51.662 0.155 0.155
3 46 Valentino ROSSI YAMAHA 1'51.814 0.307 0.152
4 99 Jorge LORENZO YAMAHA 1'51.894 0.387 0.080
5 15 Alex DE ANGELIS HONDA 1'52.264 0.757 0.370
6 52 James TOSELAND YAMAHA 1'52.888 1.381 0.624
7 65 Loris CAPIROSSI SUZUKI 1'52.928 1.421 0.040
8 5 Colin EDWARDS YAMAHA 1'53.128 1.621 0.200
9 4 Andrea DOVIZIOSO HONDA 1'53.151 1.644 0.023
10 33 Marco MELANDRI KAWASAKI 1'53.590 2.083 0.439
11 36 Mika KALLIO DUCATI 1'53.967 2.460 0.377
12 7 Chris VERMEULEN SUZUKI 1'54.554 3.047 0.587
13 14 Randy DE PUNIET HONDA 1'55.674 4.167 1.120
14 24 Toni ELIAS HONDA 1'55.788 4.281 0.114
15 44 Aleix ESPARGARO DUCATI 1'56.204 4.697 0.416
16 41 Gabor TALMACSI HONDA 1'56.594 5.087 0.390
17 88 Niccolo CANEPA DUCATI 1'58.244 6.737 1.650
Quote from: Jester on August 28, 2009, 11:00:22 AM
Supposed to be dry for sat/sun. [clap]
Wet then dry is not good news for Nicky. More than others, he's needs either consistently wet or consistently dry seat time throughout the weekend to get his bike set up.
WTF...Pedrobot in 1st in the wet? ???
guess he's not scared of the rain no mo'
That or he just didn't stay out long enough to crash! [laugh]
Rossi and Pedrosa waste some time sitting in the pits to conserve their engines:
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Aug/090828f46.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2009/Aug/090828f46.htm)
dayum....
nicky was ~.5s off fastest time in the session until pedro threw down a lap 1 full second faster than everybody else.
"Dani sweeps the 2009 US GPs"
FP2 Results
Pos. Rider Team Bike Time
1 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Honda 1:40.271
2 Jorge Lorenzo Fiat Yamaha Yamaha 1:41.286
3 Alex De Angelis San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1:41.324
4 Valentino Rossi Fiat Yamaha Yamaha 1:41.389
5 Colin Edwards II Tech 3 Yamaha Yamaha 1:41.459
6 Andrea Dovizioso Repsol Honda Honda 1:41.793
7 Nicky Hayden Ducati Marlboro Ducati 1:41.883
8 Niccolo Canepa Pramac Racing Ducati 1:42.380
9 Mika Kallio Pramac Racing Ducati 1:42.433
10 Marco Melandri Hayate Racing Kawasaki 1:42.460
11 Loris Capirossi Rizla Suzuki Suzuki 1:42.507
12 Tony Elias San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1:42.603
13 Chris Vermeulen Rizla Suzuki Suzuki 1:42.665
14 Alexis Espargaro Pramac Racing Ducati 1:42.775
15 Randy De Puniet LCR Honda Honda 1:42.815
16 James Toseland Tech 3 Yamaha Yamaha 1:43.131
17 Gabor Talmasci Scot Racing Team Honda 1:43.184
Motogp.com didn't air the live feed for FP2 for some reason or is my compurter screwed up?
Quote from: Drjones on August 29, 2009, 08:45:53 AM
Motogp.com didn't air the live feed for FP2 for some reason or is my compurter screwed up?
FP2 never has live video.
pedro's pace continues...
front row: pedro, jorge, rossi
second row: de angeles, edwards, hayden
pedro is the only rider in the 39s, a half second faster than lorenzo's P2 time.
P2-5 are all in the 40s.
nicky in P6 with a 1'41.067
Quote from: derby on August 29, 2009, 09:27:46 AM
FP2 never has live video.
+1
You can watch the live timing though. Just no video.
Pedro has been fast and I'd expect a quick start as usual, but I could see Lorenzo winning this race and clawing back 9 points on Rossi as it stands. Lorenzo put in a ton of 40's during Quali, more than Pedro and a lot more than Rossi.
I know Lorenzo seems to run a ton of fast laps every week, but he might pull this one out. Rossi and Burgess always seem to find a tweak at the last moment to provide a good race but he's a little more off the pace than usual. Guess we'll see where it stands during warmup tomorrow morning.
full qualy results:
1. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team 1min 39.730 sec
2. Jorge Lorenzo SPA Fiat Yamaha Team 1min 40.236 sec
3. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team 1min 40.609 sec
4. Alex de Angelis RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini 1min 40.620 sec
5. Colin Edwards USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1min 40.961 sec
6. Nicky Hayden USA Ducati Marlboro Team 1min 41.067 sec
7. Toni Elias SPA San Carlo Honda Gresini 1min 41.283 sec
8. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Repsol Honda Team 1min 41.309 sec
9. Marco Melandri ITA Hayate Racing Team 1min 41.530 sec
10. James Toseland GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1min 41.620 sec
11. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1min 41.742 sec
12. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP 1min 41.773 sec
13. Niccolo Canepa ITA Pramac Racing 1min 41.910 sec
14. Chris Vermeulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1min 42.038 sec
15. Mika Kallio FIN Ducati Marlboro Team 1min 42.250 sec
16. Aleix Espargaro SPA Pramac Racing 1min 42.577 sec
17. Gabor Talmacsi HUN Scot Racing Team MotoGP 1min 42.736 sec
DeAngelis' lap seems a little misleading to me, since he didn't show much the rest of Qualy. Not really an up front threat imo.
go nicky!
that is all ;D
morning warmup...
1. Alex de Angelis RSM San Carlo Honda Gresini 1min 40.446 sec
2. Dani Pedrosa SPA Repsol Honda Team 1min 40.489 sec
3. Jorge Lorenzo SPA Fiat Yamaha Team 1min 40.717 sec
4. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team 1min 40.759 sec
5. Toni Elias SPA San Carlo Honda Gresini 1min 41.308 sec
6. Nicky Hayden USA Ducati Marlboro Team 1min 41.352 sec
7. Colin Edwards USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1min 41.436 sec
8. Marco Melandri ITA Hayate Racing Team 1min 41.535 sec
9. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Repsol Honda Team 1min 41.719 sec
10. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1min 41.990 sec
11. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP 1min 42.260 sec
12. Niccolo Canepa ITA Pramac Racing 1min 42.515 sec
13. James Toseland GBR Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1min 42.534 sec
14. Mika Kallio FIN Ducati Marlboro Team 1min 42.547 sec
15. Aleix Espargaro SPA Pramac Racing 1min 42.581 sec
16. Chris Vermeulen AUS Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1min 42.794 sec
17. Gabor Talmacsi HUN Scot Racing Team MotoGP 1min 43.105 sec
I guess the qualy performance wasn't a fluke.
He did get a tow during qualifying, but if he gets a good start...
who knows.
i really want to see him on the podium this season [thumbsup]
Man, what happened to Rossi on that turn? His bike dropped out from underneath him almost like Lorenzo when he hit the white stripe in Donington. Crazy! Hopefully Lorenzo pulls this win in and we got ourselves a championship!!!!!!!!!! [clap] [thumbsup]
Great race for Nicky. [thumbsup]
Hats off for Pedrosa's run, after the crash. [clap]
The Captain America celebration was classic! [thumbsup]
i guess AdA had something after all.
Who is in charge of the Camera work for this... HORRIBLE! There was a battle for 2nd and 3rd, that seemed ignored for most of the last half of the race.
WOOT HAYDEN!!!
Good for Nicky [clap]
Quote from: Cynic on August 30, 2009, 12:00:48 PM
Who is in charge of the Camera work for this... HORRIBLE! There was a battle for 2nd and 3rd, that seemed ignored for most of the last half of the race.
I really think Fox wanted to show anything they could except the race
Quote from: derby on August 30, 2009, 11:57:51 AM
i guess AdA had something after all.
Yeah, I stand corrected. He really ran a good one today. ;)
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on August 30, 2009, 07:57:13 AM
i really want to see him on the podium this season [thumbsup]
I was talking about deAngelis. ;)
Quote from: 804monster on August 30, 2009, 12:11:11 PM
I really think Fox wanted to show anything they could except the race
It was like that on MotoGP.com too.. not Fox.
So at least I had better commentating... if you like Toseland =)
I am happy for Hayden.
Has anyone noticed that Stoner is still in 3rd in the championship despite not running the last 2 races???
It coulda, shoulda, woulda been a hellava battle.
Quote from: 804monster on August 30, 2009, 12:11:11 PM
I really think Fox wanted to show anything they could except the race
+1 - interview with nascrap drivers...
Quote from: rockaduc on August 30, 2009, 12:39:09 PM
Has anyone noticed that Stoner is still in 3rd in the championship despite not running the last 2 races???
It coulda, shoulda, woulda been a hellava battle.
Exactly the argument for him not packing it in. He was in the championship hunt and gets paid to perform. Take it as you will. Probably never will be any definative diagnosis, just speculation and a cloud over the 09' season and his desire to fulfill his contractual obligations. Who knows.
Pending he comes back, he could really throw a wrench into the outcome of this season though. Its gonna be an exciting finish.
Quote from: 804monster on August 30, 2009, 12:11:11 PM
I really think Fox wanted to show anything they could except the race
You guys whine about SPEED, whine about FOX, don't want to pay for a MotoGP subscription, and if you actually went to a race you would whine about the weather. [roll]
Quote from: kopfjager on August 30, 2009, 01:10:51 PM
You guys whine about SPEED, whine about FOX, don't want to pay for a MotoGP subscription, and if you actually went to a race you would whine about the weather. [roll]
+1
Laguna was hot as hell when I went in 07, traffic leaving sucked, the race sucked and the viewing sucked. ;D
I do have a GP.com subscription, so I'm allowed to whine. 8)
Pedrosa has the heart of a true champion. Right up to the line, he was pushing hard for every single point. I really like that guy.
Fun race despite the awful TV coverage.
Why doesn't Fox broadcast some pre-race stuff? The local Fox station here was showing an infomercial.
Quote from: kopfjager on August 30, 2009, 01:10:51 PM
You guys whine about SPEED, whine about FOX, don't want to pay for a MotoGP subscription, and if you actually went to a race you would whine about the weather. [roll]
i did go to the race in indy last year. was on the top bleacher row letting my poncho whip the guy next to me in the face. the only reason i whined about the weather then was because i drove 11 hours to sit in the rain of a red flagged race. kinda felt like i had a reason to pregnant dog. as far as the tv coverage, i am fine with the job speed does. i think fox had a better quality picture, but far worse commentary and race coverage. almost every pass that was made today was shown after the fact. [roll]
Quote from: kopfjager on August 30, 2009, 01:10:51 PM
You guys whine about SPEED, whine about FOX, don't want to pay for a MotoGP subscription, and if you actually went to a race you would whine about the weather. [roll]
Glad you enjoy the web coverage, but I pay for cable, so why can't I whine about the TV coverage? Eurosport has set a standard that FOX and SPEED aren't meeting. I'd rather buy Eurosport than watch races on my laptop, but I haven't found a way to get it where I live.
Quote from: Cider on August 30, 2009, 05:46:35 PM
Glad you enjoy the web coverage, but I pay for cable, so why can't I whine about the TV coverage? Eurosport has set a standard that FOX and SPEED aren't meeting. I'd rather buy Eurosport than watch races on my laptop, but I haven't found a way to get it where I live.
I don't watch it on the web. I watch on SPEED and FOX, but I understand that the sport isn't as popular here in the states. I accept that and enjoy what I get. Whining about it is a waste of time.
They should have used the Speedway's monitor feed. It seemed pretty good.
Those that bought Project Muggello tickets got front row seats for Rossi's low side.
I'll post some pictures tomorrow.
I expected FOX's coverage to suck but the interview with the circle jerk nastycar drivers was a bit silly in the middle in the race. Also, Greg White's 5 minute long explanation of leathers was a bit much. Otherwise the GP and 250 race were alright, all things considered.
Complaining is the point of joining a forum in the first place. [thumbsup]
Quote from: pennyrobber on August 30, 2009, 07:08:40 PM
Complaining is the point of joining a forum in the first place. [thumbsup]
I'm only here for the chicks
how's that working out for ya? ;)
and +1 on the description of leathers. That was right up there with the carbon fiber swingarm from laguna seca.
+11 w00t Hayden/ DUCATI ! [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Quote from: Jester on August 30, 2009, 11:23:17 AM
Man, what happened to Rossi on that turn? His bike dropped out from underneath him almost like Lorenzo when he hit the white stripe in Donington. Crazy! Hopefully Lorenzo pulls this win in and we got ourselves a championship!!!!!!!!!! [clap] [thumbsup]
Ya that was crazy. wtf happened? -BIF- happened.
PS - WTF is that trophy ??? Was that designed by the local grade school kids?
Quote from: ducpainter on August 30, 2009, 12:37:22 PM
I was talking about deAngelis. ;)
i was talkin' bout hayden ;)
[clap] [clap] [clap]
Go Nicky!!! [thumbsup] [thumbsup]
Unbelievable how fast Rossi and Lorenzo were going. :o Too bad about Rossi crashing, but good for the championship race.
Rossi's crash seemed weird with the way his rear tire lifted off the ground...seemed kind of violent for a typical low side...almost like his brake locked or something. ???
Lorenzo climbing the fence was awesome! [laugh]
Quote from: 804monster on August 30, 2009, 03:01:03 PM
i did go to the race in indy last year. was on the top bleacher row letting my poncho whip the guy next to me in the face.
hey... me too! ;)
i'm certain that the leathers bit was not g white's fault, but it was still... awful. again.
i have nothing else to say that hasn't been said.. [cheeky]
- totally bizaare rossi crash
- nice show of heart from pedro; passing in the last corner no less. guess he
really wants to keep puig in the garage..
- deA... umm, were were you back when you had a job?
- hellz yeah nicky. super happy for him, even with that retarded new fauxhawk. but one more lap and dovi woulda had him.
- i really do hope that seals the deal with ducati picking up his option.. he deserves another year on that bike
- goodbye jt.
was it my imagination... did Lorenzo's helmet look a lil like Captain Americas hood?
Quote from: bobspapa on August 31, 2009, 09:33:43 AM
was it my imagination... did Lorenzo's helmet look a lil like Captain Americas hood?
that's exactly what it was
Quote from: bobspapa on August 31, 2009, 09:33:43 AM
was it my imagination... did Lorenzo's helmet look a lil like Captain Americas hood?
That's why he sported the Captain America shield around his victory cool down lap... although it tore off his arm when he popped a late wheelie. It sounded like he was planning to take it to the podium with him.
Lorenzo is definately the next "Rossi" in skill and celebration style. If he stays healthy, the sport will have its next ambassador and showman. I'm happy for this as losing Rossi will be a big hit for GP when he retires, but having a capable person to take his place will ease the transition.
Quote from: bobspapa on August 31, 2009, 09:33:43 AM
was it my imagination... did Lorenzo's helmet look a lil like Captain Americas hood?
(http://resources.motogp.com/files/images/xy/2009/MotoGP/FP2/n502902_lorenzo02_4.preview_big.jpg)
Quote from: Jester on August 31, 2009, 09:56:21 AM
Lorenzo is definately the next "Rossi" in skill and celebration style.
....did you see his 250 celebrations?
I was a little disappointed he didn't plant the Lorenzo Land flag.
(http://tienda.sgsport.es/WebRoot/StoreES/Shops/ea7528/4924/2EBD/758D/CC3A/2EE8/52DF/A378/5BE2/jl9004.gif)
I missed all the cool down stuff
Rossi crash...the way the wind blows into that end of the track tends to dump alot of silt and sand and dirt onto that little straight between 1 and 2. Rossi said that he got out onto a "dirty" part of the track and the front ent just let go. You could see how the dust was pushed to the outside of that corner and he was running wide and hit the dirt.
Pedrobot...Still hate the guy but his crash and subsequent finish gained him ALOT of respect in my book. Crashing and remounting in 17th to finish 10th is no trivial feat. But he is still an emotionless lump. And his handler, Puig, is still a douchenozzle.
Lorenzo...like the guy...sorta. Saw him mature alot this race. He made a very good pass on Rossi and props to him for the win. I need to post up the pics of his wheelie coming onto pit lane after his victory lap. CLASSIC!
Nicky...Props to the kid. He held off a very determine Dovi for the final podium spot. That was probably one of the better battles going on after Rossi crashed out. He is a very modest guy from what I saw "backstage" in the pits.
Colin...He came up to our suite for a while before the 125 race and talked a bit about things. He said his bike wasn't feeling right in warmup and his post race interview confirms it. He definitely wasn't on pace with even Dovi or Nicky after the Rossi crash. Don't think I have ever met a more fun rider to chat with. When he first got up to the suite, no one was talking to him at all but I went over to him and started chatting with him about his dethroning of the Ducs while he was in WSBK...after that, he signed my pit pass, my Road RacerX magazine article about him and took a few pics with me and me and the umbrella girls. I then talked to him a bit about the track asking how he liked it etc since I do track days but would never have a chance to ride it. He showed genuine interest in my track bike and which tracks I had ridden. Wish the guy could have finished better.
Kevin Schwantz...the guy chatted with me and my roommate for like 25 minutes after the MotoGP race. He signed our tickets and also gave me props on my choice of track bikes. Hehe. Very down to earth and one of the easiest racers to just chat with.
Kel Carruthers...I think he was shocked I actually knew who he was and wanted his autograph. Chatted with him for about 15 minutes while waiting for Rossi and he is most likely the reason Rossi signed my helmet and took a picture with me. Rossi laughed when I called him il Maestro and bowed to him. I peed myself.
Vermulen and Capirossi...those guys are pretty danged cool. Capirossi Hi5ed me as he rode by me on his scooter. I peed next to Vermulen.
King Kenny...Meh...I suppose he has every right to be douchebaggy...but why would you be?
All in all it was a great weekend. I took over 1000 pics. Will have to get them sorted and some posted up...
Quote from: ZLTFUL on August 31, 2009, 01:08:28 PM
Pedrobot...Still hate the guy but his crash and subsequent finish gained him ALOT of respect in my book. Crashing and remounting in 17th to finish 10th is no trivial feat. But he is still an emotionless lump.
But he's always spoken so highly of you.
Quote from: ZLTFUL on August 31, 2009, 01:08:28 PM
Rossi crash...the way the wind blows into that end of the track tends to dump alot of silt and sand and dirt onto that little straight between 1 and 2. Rossi said that he got out onto a "dirty" part of the track and the front ent just let go. You could see how the dust was pushed to the outside of that corner and he was running wide and hit the dirt.
Pedrobot...Still hate the guy but his crash and subsequent finish gained him ALOT of respect in my book. Crashing and remounting in 17th to finish 10th is no trivial feat. But he is still an emotionless lump. And his handler, Puig, is still a douchenozzle.
Lorenzo...like the guy...sorta. Saw him mature alot this race. He made a very good pass on Rossi and props to him for the win. I need to post up the pics of his wheelie coming onto pit lane after his victory lap. CLASSIC!
Nicky...Props to the kid. He held off a very determine Dovi for the final podium spot. That was probably one of the better battles going on after Rossi crashed out. He is a very modest guy from what I saw "backstage" in the pits.
Colin...He came up to our suite for a while before the 125 race and talked a bit about things. He said his bike wasn't feeling right in warmup and his post race interview confirms it. He definitely wasn't on pace with even Dovi or Nicky after the Rossi crash. Don't think I have ever met a more fun rider to chat with. When he first got up to the suite, no one was talking to him at all but I went over to him and started chatting with him about his dethroning of the Ducs while he was in WSBK...after that, he signed my pit pass, my Road RacerX magazine article about him and took a few pics with me and me and the umbrella girls. I then talked to him a bit about the track asking how he liked it etc since I do track days but would never have a chance to ride it. He showed genuine interest in my track bike and which tracks I had ridden. Wish the guy could have finished better.
Kevin Schwantz...the guy chatted with me and my roommate for like 25 minutes after the MotoGP race. He signed our tickets and also gave me props on my choice of track bikes. Hehe. Very down to earth and one of the easiest racers to just chat with.
Kel Carruthers...I think he was shocked I actually knew who he was and wanted his autograph. Chatted with him for about 15 minutes while waiting for Rossi and he is most likely the reason Rossi signed my helmet and took a picture with me. Rossi laughed when I called him il Maestro and bowed to him. I peed myself.
Vermulen and Capirossi...those guys are pretty danged cool. Capirossi Hi5ed me as he rode by me on his scooter. I peed next to Vermulen.
King Kenny...Meh...I suppose he has every right to be douchebaggy...but why would you be?
All in all it was a great weekend. I took over 1000 pics. Will have to get them sorted and some posted up...
I'm jealous...
sounds like fun.
Kenny?...I met him in '73 I think...before he was crowned. He had a pretty high opinion of himself then too. Douchbaggy? I guess that is the way he comes across.
Quote from: kopfjäger on August 31, 2009, 01:12:45 PM
But he's always spoken so highly of you.
Relative of Kenny Roberts? [roll]
Seriously, you have this same response to anyone who expresses an opinion of Pedrosa. I stood no more than 5 feet from the man while he took pictures with fans and his expression was always the same even after setting a track record... :| While EVERY other rider in the paddock was ear to ear grins while taking pics with fans. The guy is a literal flatline.
Seriously, troll elsewhere. I have tried to respect you but shit like this makes me realize you aren't worth it.
No, Pedro doesn't give a make the beast with two backs about what me or you or even the make the beast with two backsing pope has to say about him. So I guess you are right. Your e-peen must be swollen with joy right now.
what's with all the personal shit in racing and trackdays as of late? people can't discuss racing or racers without going after each other?
Quote from: ZLTFUL on August 31, 2009, 05:24:01 PM
Relative of Kenny Roberts? [roll]
Seriously, you have this same response to anyone who expresses an opinion of Pedrosa. I stood no more than 5 feet from the man while he took pictures with fans and his expression was always the same even after setting a track record... :| While EVERY other rider in the paddock was ear to ear grins while taking pics with fans. The guy is a literal flatline.
No I'm not.
So because he doesn't have a big goofy smile on his face this makes him a bad person, or less of a professional MotoGP racer?
Does anyone else think Rossi crashed cause he was pushing to keep up with Lorenzo? Trying too hard to strike back right away.
Quote from: DanTheMan on August 31, 2009, 08:17:52 PM
Does anyone else think Rossi crashed cause he was pushing to keep up with Lorenzo? Trying too hard to strike back right away.
I believe he is pushing all the time, as well as the rest of the field.
Quote from: DanTheMan on August 31, 2009, 08:17:52 PM
Does anyone else think Rossi crashed cause he was pushing to keep up with Lorenzo? Trying too hard to strike back right away.
nope. in fact, i think that rossi let him past in the first place.
Quote from: derby on August 31, 2009, 08:50:26 PM
nope. in fact, i think that rossi let him past in the first place.
I would believe that...so he could tactically analyze his moves and placements to know where and when he was going to take the race back....
as a racer, it is their job to push...even if it is in the form of pushing the guy in front of them with pressure of showing a wheel or letting them know you are right there in some variant fashion....as far as him getting out into the dirty part of the track...my guess is that it wasn't intentional to get into the dirtyness per sey, but to play with lines and placements while sizing up Jorge' for later on...
ZLTFUL- nice write up...thanks...I look forward to the pics...and in regards to Pedro-Bot....for me, I just don't like it when he tries to smile because it reminds me of when Christina Ricci was playing Wednesday Addams and does that nervous not quite right scary smile to make even more of an Eddie Munster look to himself than he already has....
Ryan - still can't believe you were only a few suites down. Glad you had fun [thumbsup]
ZLTFUL, sounds like a great weekend.
I have to know, just what kind of track bike is this that everyone loves?
Quote from: Statler on August 31, 2009, 05:37:16 PM
what's with all the personal shit in racing and trackdays as of late? people can't discuss racing or racers without going after each other?
August is (was) a slow month for racing, so everybody goes nuts. The real fireworks happen during the winter ;D.
Quote from: derby on August 31, 2009, 08:50:26 PM
nope. in fact, i think that rossi let him past in the first place.
+1
Quote from: Triple J on September 01, 2009, 07:28:00 AM
+1
i definitely thought the same thing when watching the race. we all know rossi has done that many'a time. but based on some of his comments after the race, i'm not so sure. he never really found set-up that weekend.
then again, we also all know they could put him on a buell and he'd still be able to haunt jorgey into a mistake.
Quote from: derby on August 31, 2009, 08:50:26 PM
nope. in fact, i think that rossi let him past in the first place.
I'n glad someone else thinks so. I said it at the time and everyone looked at me like I was an idiot. It made me :'(
As Lorenzo went for the pass, it looked like Rossi had a moment when he was trying to decide whether to fight for the apex or whether to let him by and follow. It looked to me like he made the conscious decision to follow, though I'm not sure at that point Rossi coulda held off Lorenzo's pass if he tried.
BTW, for you old school DMLers, someone told me that AllyCat was in the same bar watching the race too. Blast from the past, eh? I've never met her so I couldn't be sure.
That's a name I haven't heard in a while. If Herb and Strati were there it would be like old times (I never met them either).
Even if he didn't let him pass, or actually force him to pass by slowing a tad...it didn't seem like he fought the pass. He would have been content to follow him for a while, learn a bit, then attack later with only a few laps remaining. That seems like what he always does...unless the other rider is just plain faster and is at risk of getting away (Stoner at Laguna last year)...then he'll battle the whole race.
That's just what I thought anyway. :P
Quote from: DanTheMan on August 31, 2009, 08:17:52 PM
Does anyone else think Rossi crashed cause he was pushing to keep up with Lorenzo? Trying too hard to strike back right away.
+1, IMO he didn't look comfortable all weekend. When you are actually standing 20' away you pick up way more nuances than the watching TV. Pedrosa and Lorenzo were by far the more smoother and composed. (and quickest on the throttle).
Watching that Duc in real life... wow!! It bucks and kicks like a crazy thing, way more unsettled than any other bike out there. Major kudos to anyone who can ride it well.
Btw, anyone still claiming that FIAT-Yamaha and Tech 3 are running the exact same bikes, you're crazy! They don't even sound the same and the FIAT bikes definitely spin up quicker.
Quote from: tufty on September 01, 2009, 08:33:28 AM
Btw, anyone still claiming that FIAT-Yamaha and Tech 3 are running the exact same bikes, you're crazy! They don't even sound the same and the FIAT bikes definitely spin up quicker.
colin has been openly complaining about being down on power since the engine limits came into effect and they de-tuned his engine
Quote from: gm2 on September 01, 2009, 08:45:51 AM
colin has been openly complaining about being down on power since the engine limits came into effect and they de-tuned his engine
Heh, I know. I was standing 10' from him on Friday when he called the engine a nail. Oh and went on call JT's crew chief a "f**king asshole"... fun times. I have video of all, maybe i'll get around to posting.
Seeing the riders in person and watching them on the track paints a whole different picture. I felt bad for JT standing next to Colin having to explain why his crew chief wanted to switch riders and then saying that he'd only had 18 months worth of a chance at GP's. It really isn't fair considering some riders have years of mediocrity and still get contracts.
JT is definitely one of the smoother riders out there though and his race craft is second to none. If I were Dorna, I'd have to think twice about kicking him out and alienating Brit fans again.
I just think he f-uped, got passed, tried to stay with him and crashed. No strategiery about it.
They did a video with Tech-3 on motogp.com a while back. One of their segments where they explain the motorcycle. They flat out said the bike runs a different engine and is down on power. There is no mystery about it. They put it straight out there as a fact.
Quote from: Triple J on September 01, 2009, 08:30:56 AM
Even if he didn't let him pass, or actually force him to pass by slowing a tad...it didn't seem like he fought the pass. He would have been content to follow him for a while, learn a bit, then attack later with only a few laps remaining. That seems like what he always does...unless the other rider is just plain faster and is at risk of getting away (Stoner at Laguna last year)...then he'll battle the whole race.
That's just what I thought anyway. :P
if you can't gap the field, it doesn't make too much sense to lead from the front*. especially if there's only two riders in the mix.
jorge had already "felt out" his ability to pass, so he was already thinking about whether he had what it took to gap rossi.
dropping back to second to try and "push" the leader into a mistake/wearing out his tires is a good strategy.
* unless, like in the ama, there are points (a point, really) given for leading the most laps.
Quote from: DanTheMan on September 01, 2009, 09:15:24 AM
I just think he f-uped, got passed, tried to stay with him and crashed. No strategiery about it.
+1 a rare f-up moment. Rear wheel was off the ground. He may have found a little dust, but... not like there was gravel out there; maybe a bump. Who knows.
Everyone was complaining about the huge bumps. Still the ol' Brickyard.
Why don't they fix that shiet?
Why do they run the circuit backwards with decreasing radii?
Quote from: Desmostro on September 01, 2009, 10:28:59 AM
Why do they run the circuit backwards with decreasing radii?
Running it the "right"( F1 ) way has some corners opening up towards the wall and its simply a safety issue on the bikes.
Quote from: Desmostro on September 01, 2009, 10:28:59 AM
+1 a rare f-up moment. Rear wheel was off the ground. He may have found a little dust, but... not like there was gravel out there; maybe a bump. Who knows.
I have pictures of the corner he went down in. I will get them edited for size and posted up in the next few days...this definitely wasn't a little dust but more like the sand buildup you see at the edge of your favorite canyon road. There is a definitive color difference where the race line is and where the dirt and dust buildup was.
Quote from: ZLTFUL on September 01, 2009, 01:39:19 PM
I have pictures of the corner he went down in. I will get them edited for size and posted up in the next few days...this definitely wasn't a little dust but more like the sand buildup you see at the edge of your favorite canyon road. There is a definitive color difference where the race line is and where the dirt and dust buildup was.
looking at the way he went down i don't doubt that at all
Quote from: gm2 on September 01, 2009, 01:46:15 PM
looking at the way he went down i don't doubt that at all
+1 the line looks the same as lorenzo's. The only spot he went off the line was into T1.
I know this is highly unlikely but,
Rossi is at 212
Lorenzo is at 187
If Lorenzo gets 1st and Rossi gets 2nd for all 5 remaining races then they both end with 312. Am I wrong? Tie? ;D
I think that's right. IIRC, then it comes down to who has the most wins. In your scenario, Lorenzo would take it.
The big thing is whether Pedrosa can get between them or whether Rossi has a mechanical and/or crash. Then again, its pretty unlikely that the Yamahas are gonna be split by Pedrosa. They're either both going to be ahead of him or both behind.
Pedrosa is in the hunt, I wouldn't count him out just yet. I think he is getting it dialed in just right + the Honda seems to have the power on the Yamies.
Quote from: NAKD1 on September 02, 2009, 08:26:54 AM
Pedrosa is in the hunt, I wouldn't count him out just yet. I think he is getting it dialed in just right + the Honda seems to have the power on the Yamies.
I'm not discounting Pedro, Indy showed he has it pushing back to 10th after crashing out. My idea was just an interesting hypothetical.
Quote from: NAKD1 on September 02, 2009, 08:26:54 AM
Pedrosa is in the hunt, I wouldn't count him out just yet. I think he is getting it dialed in just right + the Honda seems to have the power on the Yamies.
it only took what? three years of exclusive development for his little ass to start showing some kind of consistent results.
Quote from: 804monster on September 02, 2009, 04:14:27 PM
it only took what? three years of exclusive development for his little ass to start showing some kind of consistent results.
even if i were the ultimate pedro hater that would be an unreasonable statement.
his bike number was 2 in 2008 and 3 in 2009. any idea why?
Quote from: gm2 on September 02, 2009, 04:21:44 PM
his bike number was 2 in 2008 and 3 in 2009. any idea why?
His dress size? ;D
...I'm not a Pedro hater either. He's fast. It would be great if he was on a Duc. His personality (or lack of one) isn't any worse than Stoner.
Quote from: 804monster on September 02, 2009, 04:14:27 PM
it only took what? three years of exclusive development for his little ass to start showing some kind of consistent results.
Here we go again. ???
Quote from: gm2 on September 02, 2009, 04:21:44 PM
his bike number was 2 in 2008 and 3 in 2009. any idea why?
he ran the number 2 in 2008 because he came in 2nd in 2007 and is running the number 3 this year because he came in 3rd last year...
Quote from: Desmostro on September 01, 2009, 10:28:59 AM
Everyone was complaining about the huge bumps. Still the ol' Brickyard.
Why don't they fix that shiet?
On what portion of the track?
Quote from: cyrus buelton on September 03, 2009, 05:09:09 AM
On what portion of the track?
the black tarmac portion.... [laugh] [laugh] ;D [cheeky] ;)
Quote from: zooom on September 03, 2009, 04:09:58 AM
he ran the number 2 in 2008 because he came in 2nd in 2007 and is running the number 3 this year because he came in 3rd last year...
well, yeah. but that was sorta a rhetorical question. ;D
Quote from: 804monster on September 02, 2009, 04:14:27 PM
it only took what? three years of exclusive development for his little ass to start showing some kind of consistent results.
That comment just baffles me. Pedrosa has been a consistent threat since he arrived in MotoGP. Particularly to Hayden.
Edit: looks like 804monster is now a guest?
Quote from: Spidey on September 03, 2009, 08:15:41 AM
That comment just baffles me. Pedrosa has been a consistent threat since he arrived in MotoGP. Particularly to Hayden.
Edit: looks like 804monster is now a guest?
804monster was likely Casey Stoner posting from home [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
mitt
What I heard from several racers was the really bad bumps are in the transitions from old track to new.
Quote from: cyrus buelton on September 03, 2009, 05:09:09 AM
On what portion of the track?
Quote from: mitt on September 03, 2009, 09:17:25 AM
804monster was likely Casey Stoner posting from home [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
mitt
[laugh] [thumbsup] GO CASEY!
Quote from: mitt on September 03, 2009, 09:17:25 AM
804monster was likely Casey Stoner posting from home [laugh] [laugh] [laugh]
mitt
Or Hayden maybe... he's got plenty of reasons to hate the robot.
Quote from: Desmostro on September 03, 2009, 11:40:25 AM
What I heard from several racers was the really bad bumps are in the transitions from old track to new.
That could make sense.
I'll have to ask my friend who tested a DP at the track today to see if he could notice the transition from the "oval" to the "circuit"
The s/o and I just missed the race. We drove through Indy a few days prior heading to AZ. Wish we could have waited a little longer to leave MI. :-\
Sounds like it was a good race and Hayden's finally doing better. [thumbsup]
Quote from: Spidey on September 01, 2009, 08:06:36 AM
BTW, for you old school DMLers, someone told me that AllyCat was in the same bar watching the race too. Blast from the past, eh?
:-X