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Title: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: Duc L'Smart on May 23, 2008, 03:29:00 PM
So, if one were so inclined, and felt enough inner fortitudeness, to undertake a 6k service on an air cooled twin, say, oh, I don't know.... a Monster or a Sport Classic, what should be performed, and what exotic precision instruments are necessary?
One would assume, it goes without saying, that it would involve an oil change, clutch fluid change, brake fluid change, check brake pads, look for things that are loose but should not be loose...
What else?
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: never2loud on May 23, 2008, 03:56:55 PM

Tires  [evil] 





(Sorry, couldn't resist... wonder what's the female equivalent of "Svoloch"?)
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: dallas2r on May 23, 2008, 04:13:37 PM
Quote from: n2f on May 23, 2008, 03:56:55 PM
Tires  [evil] 





(Sorry, couldn't resist... wonder what's the female equivalent of "Svoloch"?)

you mean Svoloch isn't a chick?  ???  OH GOD!!!    :-X [puke]
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: cdc on May 23, 2008, 04:19:54 PM
Quote from: dallas2r on May 23, 2008, 04:13:37 PM
you mean Svoloch isn't a chick?  ???  OH GOD!!!    :-X [puke]

Is this the same as a James' "OH GOD"?   ;D

cdc
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: WonderBoy on May 23, 2008, 04:27:37 PM
That would be like a quagmire from family guy "oh god."

What i wanna know from Hiero is the answer to life, the universe, and everything.
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: calscrazy on May 23, 2008, 05:31:42 PM
does one still have his owner's manual to read?
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: factorPlayer on May 23, 2008, 05:42:01 PM
methinks it be time for another 6k maintenance clinic  [beer]
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: Gone Ape on May 23, 2008, 06:14:25 PM
I'll bite......Realizing this is totally tongue in cheek:

micrometer 0-25mm
dial caliper 0-150mm
beer, for the loose ones you have to buy
knife sharpening stone for tight shims
manometer or mercury carb sticks for TB balancing
the old board (for a cool excel program for shim calcs)
patience
patience
oh yeah, patience

And a sense of humor ...clearly something lost od me...

Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: hiero on May 23, 2008, 07:29:52 PM
letsee, on top of what you got, valve clearance adjustment etc,

you'll want to readjust your belts (although valve clearance adjustment is easier with the belts off anyways)
reset your TPS
balance TBs
check chain tension

if you like, you can check your throttle cables and your steering head bearings

special tools:

use an impact driver to get those pesky crank cover bolts off, don't try to do it by hand, you'll strip em
engine turning tool (you can make one on the cheap if you don't want to buy a real one)
shims and shim measurement tool
I use only a set of calipers to measure my shims, but whatever you choose to use
angled feeler gauges (angled makes it easier)
something to hold the top of the valve in place so it doesn't fall in
magnetic pick up tool makes pulling half rings out easier
something to depress the rockers (I just bought the purpose made tool made by EMS, but used to just use a screwdriver being careful)
some kind of sync tool (I use a digital vacuum gauge now)
fluke for the TPS reset (depends on model of bike though as some TPS can be set manually, some have to be done using software)

maybe an extra 5mm screw to block the oil galley hole when you're pulling your half rings so they don't fall in there


other answers: 42
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: MurDuc on May 23, 2008, 10:11:33 PM
hiero,
I am so going to bribe you to come "hang out at the lake" for a couple days.
Just as soon as my tools aren't hogging up the guest bedroom. :-[





I wish I was joking...
(http://www.howlinmad.com/sitecontent/garage.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: ♣ McKraut ♣ on May 23, 2008, 10:54:16 PM
Quote from: DucatiFan on May 23, 2008, 06:14:25 PM
manometer

what exactly does this measure?  because i have a rule that i think takes the same measurement.... does your "manometer" go up to 10 inches also??
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: Duc L'Smart on May 24, 2008, 02:00:24 AM
Quote from: McKraut on May 23, 2008, 10:54:16 PM
what exactly does this measure?  because i have a rule that i think takes the same measurement.... does your "manometer" go up to 10 inches also??

The "Wishful Thinking" thread is over in the No Monster Content forum  :P
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: Duc L'Smart on May 24, 2008, 02:10:02 AM
Okay, I found this, although it's from waaaay back in '05

(http://homepage.mac.com/metcalfe/.cv/metcalfe/Sites/.Pictures/Maintenance.png-thumb_202_269.jpg)
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: Duc L'Smart on May 24, 2008, 02:11:01 AM
Does this still work?

Reset the MAINT light:

Hold down the left button. Turn the bike on. Release the button.
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: Duc L'Smart on May 24, 2008, 02:15:52 AM
More Techie Goodness on TOB

http://www.ducatimonster.org/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=166
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: Gone Ape on May 24, 2008, 05:53:05 PM
Quotewhat exactly does this measure?  because i have a rule that i think takes the same measurement.... does your "manometer" go up to 10 inches also??


Hillarious!!!!

Clearly I walked right into that open cabinet door............... [bang]
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: hiero on May 24, 2008, 09:48:55 PM
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on May 24, 2008, 02:11:01 AM
Does this still work?

Reset the MAINT light:

Hold down the left button. Turn the bike on. Release the button.


still works for some bikes, not the newer ones though, easy to check though  [thumbsup]


mur, I've slept right next to my bike before when space was limited  ;D  weekend at the lake sounds pretty nice  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: Duc L'Smart on May 25, 2008, 05:46:38 AM
Quote from: hiero on May 24, 2008, 09:48:55 PM
still works for some bikes, not the newer ones though, easy to check though  [thumbsup]

DoH! I tried, & it indeed does work on the Paul SMart ('06 SPort Classic). You have to hold the left button down through the complete initializing cycle...
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: Duc L'Smart on May 25, 2008, 07:37:15 AM
I've tracked down the oil leak on the Paul Smart. The oil cooler is leaking at the seams on one side. It was not leaking at the fittings.
A new cooler is $300. ( :o :P ), & the 2 dealerships I have called do not have them in stock.
We can't tell if the cooler is simply pressed together, or if it is soldered or something.
I've called a radiator company that's actually open this Monday morning, so I'm taking it over for them to look at...
Any other ideas/suggestions?
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: El Matador on May 25, 2008, 12:35:35 PM
If it needs just welding there might be some people who can help... Find out and get back to us  :)
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: hiero on May 25, 2008, 03:05:18 PM
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on May 25, 2008, 07:37:15 AM
I've tracked down the oil leak on the Paul Smart. The oil cooler is leaking at the seams on one side. It was not leaking at the fittings.
A new cooler is $300. ( :o :P ), & the 2 dealerships I have called do not have them in stock.
We can't tell if the cooler is simply pressed together, or if it is soldered or something.
I've called a radiator company that's actually open this Monday morning, so I'm taking it over for them to look at...
Any other ideas/suggestions?

that's definitely your best bet actually, those places usually are very good with this kind of thing, you've got it off the bike right?
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: Duc L'Smart on May 27, 2008, 08:33:33 AM
Whew! I took the oil cooler to a radiator shop yesterday (yes, they were open Memorial Day), & they pressure tested it, but couldn't find a leak. They went ahead & put a nice fat weld around where I thought it was leaking. Did it while I waited... $10.
Got it back together & fired it up, & let it idle for quite awhile. Looking good, so I rode to the gas station.
Got it up to around 8k rpm, & about 210 degrees.

NO LEAK  [thumbsup]

Thanks for everyone's input  ;D

(http://homepage.mac.com/metcalfe/.cv/metcalfe/Sites/.Pictures/Weld.jpg-thumb_202_269.jpg)

Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: svoloch on May 27, 2008, 09:00:17 AM
Quote from: n2f on May 23, 2008, 03:56:55 PM
Tires  [evil] 





(Sorry, couldn't resist... wonder what's the female equivalent of "Svoloch"?)

"Suka"

[thumbsup]
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: svoloch on May 27, 2008, 09:04:11 AM
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on May 24, 2008, 02:11:01 AM
Does this still work?

Reset the MAINT light:

Hold down the left button. Turn the bike on. Release the button.


I will do this for you for $600.  I'm sure that is less than what AMS would charge.
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: LYD on May 27, 2008, 02:53:47 PM
Okay here's a very technical question David?

If a train is coming from New York at 126mph going to San Diego
and another train is coming from San Diego at 149mph going to New York
and another train is coming from Seattle at 86mph going to Miami
and another train is coming from Miami at 113mph going to Seattle,
How many people will not be drunk when all 4 trains cross? ???
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: hiero on May 27, 2008, 09:02:13 PM
Quote from: littleyellowduc (LYD) on May 27, 2008, 02:53:47 PM
Okay here's a very technical question David?

If a train is coming from New York at 126mph going to San Diego
and another train is coming from San Diego at 149mph going to New York
and another train is coming from Seattle at 86mph going to Miami
and another train is coming from Miami at 113mph going to Seattle,
How many people will not be drunk when all 4 trains cross? ???

hmm, I don't think the trains can ever cross all at the same time... so that would be 0!
Title: Re: The Official "Ask Hiero, Because Hiero Knows Everything" Thread
Post by: never2loud on May 28, 2008, 05:40:36 AM
Quote from: littleyellowduc (LYD) on May 27, 2008, 02:53:47 PM
Okay here's a very technical question David?

If a train is coming from New York at 126mph going to San Diego
and another train is coming from San Diego at 149mph going to New York
and another train is coming from Seattle at 86mph going to Miami
and another train is coming from Miami at 113mph going to Seattle,
How many people will not be drunk when all 4 trains cross? ???


Hold on a minute; they serve alcohol on trains?  That changes everything!