(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/1240301486_ktm950sm.jpg)
That was all...
But then THIS got into the mix...
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/2007_KTM_990_Superduke_1r.jpg)
so you're the proud owner of one?... [clap]
Not just yet. Maybe soon though.
This is the worst part of the bike:
(http://i192.photobucket.com/albums/z53/b_upton/ktm950sm_05.jpg)
Don't look at it.
Just seems strange for a bike to not have a tach though...
so did you ride the Katoom?...
Yes I did, and the Daytona is up for sale to make room. ;)
Rick, I know that you heard lots of FI issues on the Super Dukes when you were considering one of those; talk to me about the FI vs. carb set up on the SM...
The FI issues were/are exactly the same as the Ducati big twin issues. That lurchy, surgy bit at low speeds with the occasional stall. With aftermarket pipes and ECU tweaks it gets better but possibly still not as good a result as the Ducati aftermarket setups. Power Commander and factory tweeks are only so-so. The dealer here has almost nil experience with setting up the street bikes. Dirt bikes are another story over here and they have far more experience with the off road stuff. The KTM answer seems to be more of "just ride it faster" than any true happiness. The carbed versions are similar to the carbed Monsters. Constant velocity Mikunis if I'm not mistaken. Could be Keihins, but still constant velocity. I never had a problem with mine until I went for the totally open airbox. The CV's couldn't handle that at all so it was either live with a restricted airbox or run the Keihin FCRs. The rest is history.
But from what you had heard, the carb'd KTMs did not have the same fueling issues right? Because they were not E3 compliant? I need to root around and see what sort of emissions control they have on the exhaust...
Couldn't say at all one way or the other. Since by 2007 almost every big time big displacement street bike was injected the KTM was a hold out. Guess you're going to have to scour the KTM boards for this one. Either that or just get a Hypermotard, large or small. At least the paint won't fade out in the first year. ;D
I thought about the Hyper, but did not really fancy the one that I took for a spin. The KTM felt a little more like what I was looking for, and comes with provisions to mount all kind of bags and other things from KTM's hard parts catalog.
Ok, the KTM dealer on Maui called me up today. Apparently Cycle City here called them up (they are each other's sister stores) to ask some questions for me about the 950 SM. Well, through the conversation, the guys on Maui told me they would let me have the 990SD they have there for $10.5K out the door and shipped over here. So... The SM has been brought down to $9400 OTD, but I realized that it had been dropped while on the sales floor. Nothing big mind you, but there are a few scuff marks on the bodywork. So... Iffin it was you, what direction would you go?
Quote from: DRKWNG on October 13, 2009, 08:36:39 PM
Ok, the KTM dealer on Maui called me up today. Apparently Cycle City here called them up (they are each other's sister stores) to ask some questions for me about the 950 SM. Well, through the conversation, the guys on Maui told me they would let me have the 990SD they have there for $10.5K out the door and shipped over here. So... The SM has been brought down to $9400 OTD, but I realized that it had been dropped while on the sales floor. Nothing big mind you, but there are a few scuff marks on the bodywork. So... Iffin it was you, what direction would you go?
I'm partial to the SD myself...MSRP on the SD in '08 was like $14.3K...ask them if the factory is still offering the $1.5K incentive package (included was a gel seat, some carbon fibre, different windscreen, etc.)...
anything to report on the SM/SD dilemma?...
Nope, not yet. Still [bang] while trying to decide which direction I would be better off with. I like the idea that the SM would be much more flexible as a bike, but I like the fact that the 990 motor rips the way it does. Trying to talk the Maui shop into cutting me a stupid deal on the Akro set up...
If you can't get the deal you want on a KTM, maybe you can get one on a Buell...
http://www.dealernews.com/dealernews/News/H-D-to-Discontinue-Buell-Sell-MV-Agusta/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/634328?ref=25 (http://www.dealernews.com/dealernews/News/H-D-to-Discontinue-Buell-Sell-MV-Agusta/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/634328?ref=25)
Quote from: Gene V on October 15, 2009, 12:42:45 PM
If you can't get the deal you want on a KTM, maybe you can get one on a Buell...
http://www.dealernews.com/dealernews/News/H-D-to-Discontinue-Buell-Sell-MV-Agusta/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/634328?ref=25 (http://www.dealernews.com/dealernews/News/H-D-to-Discontinue-Buell-Sell-MV-Agusta/ArticleStandard/Article/detail/634328?ref=25)
DAMN! Sucks for the loves of those bikes. But me having one? [puke]
You know, of course, that your KTM dealer in Costa Mesa has that SMR up on Ebay? 7 days left unless someone goes for the buy it now. I forget, did they also have just a plain SM too?
Yep, that is the one. It is the same dealerships other store that has the SD that I am also looking at. Not really sure if they have a regular SM or not, as I never asked. So what are your thoughts on the R? Was just reading a write up where they were talking about the 990SMs. They keep saying that the 950 was a great bike, and VERY smooth, but no where near as insane feeling as the 990 simply due to the larger engine being a good bit more powerful. Not really sure, but I think that extra bit of lunacy would be nice to have. ;)
I was just thinking that if they had a regular SM at a good price that it might be a way to go as you'd have extra money for mods plus the stock capacity fuel tank. It you're stuck on the SD then go for it. I don't mind either way as long as I get to take whichever one wins around Tantalus. ;D [beer]
Quote from: mac900 on October 18, 2009, 06:30:21 PM
I don't mind either way as long as I get to take whichever one wins around Tantalus. ;D [beer]
Not to worry, as you will get more than one crack on whichever bike I go with. But I have to say that even though I think I will probably go for the SD, I imagine the SMR would crush all going up Tantalus!
Quote from: DRKWNG on October 18, 2009, 10:37:37 PM
I imagine the SMR would crush all going up Tantalus!
Wouldn't it be something if we could run tests on what ever and how many bikes we could ever wish for to shake out the King Bike of Tantalus? [moto] [evil]
How much of a factor would license survivability play into this evaluation?
Well, the SMR isn't going to happen. Shop called me this morning to tell me that someone stopped by as they were closing up yesterday and put a deposit on it.
That could possibly fall into the category of "You snooze, you lose".
Yep, and that is exactly what happened. I was talking with one sales guy who said he would hold it for me overnight, but apparently did not tell the other sales guys this...
Like I said on Sunday though, I knew these bikes would sell pretty quickly in So Cal.
Quote from: DRKWNG on October 20, 2009, 10:55:16 PM
Yep, and that is exactly what happened. I was talking with one sales guy who said he would hold it for me overnight, but apparently did not tell the other sales guys this...
Like I said on Sunday though, I knew these bikes would sell pretty quickly in So Cal.
Dang! Sort of forces the option doesn't it? ;) ;D
Meaning?
Quote from: DRKWNG on October 20, 2009, 10:55:16 PM
Yep, and that is exactly what happened. I was talking with one sales guy who said he would hold it for me overnight, but apparently did not tell the other sales guys this...
Like I said on Sunday though, I knew these bikes would sell pretty quickly in So Cal.
apparently it wasn't meant to be...like when I was sure that I was going to but a Speed Triple and just happened upon the SF...
Considering sure, but who knows...
So, maybe no KTM?
Maybe. Starting to second guess a few decisions...
Quote from: DRKWNG on October 23, 2009, 05:50:30 PM
Maybe. Starting to second guess a few decisions...
Like that whole "pretending to be straight to keep your job" thing?
:-*
Dude, what's up with that? I thought it was our special secret! [laugh]
Quote from: DRKWNG on October 23, 2009, 05:50:30 PM
Maybe. Starting to second guess a few decisions...
Something else got your interest?
Not really so much that. More like mulling over a few priorities. But then again, I think everyone here pretty much knows that [moto] are my main priority. lol
Too bad these are going to be as pricey as they will when they come to our shores...
KTM 990SMT launch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KBsPLJ4t124#normal)