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looking at buying this bike. No red key or code card. Tank was dented and fixed (not with bondo I'm told). Bike was down and totalled. Guy swapped in a clean s2r 800 frame and fixed all the damage. It's titled as a 2005 s2r 800.
What's she worth?
Should I buy?
Kinda weary of the missing keys and tank. Guy also doesn't have any maintenance history.
Let me know
thanks!
I've heard that you can bypass the red key if its ever needed, maintenace history, or lack there of, would be what i worried most about. clean title? if not may have insurance issues from what i heard. [bacon]
I've heard that as well. The title is clean
can you go and check the bike out in person?
can you have a trusted wrench look at it?
as far as the key thing, it sure sounds like that is easier to get around these days, but no FHE
If I decide to buy he said he'd meet me with the bike halfway. So I will be able to look at it before I hand over the $$$. Also if I do end up getting it, I will be bringing it to silverback for a once over.
that could be too late. Here comes winter, I wouldn't get too antsy in the pantsy to get a bike unseen. Then again my last bike I said I wanted one and had one within 2 weeks. so I'll shut up, what do I know anyways [bacon]
There is a catch to titling a bike like this in MN.
When you title a bike in MN they list both the frame serial number and the engine serial number. If they don't match, you could run into problems down the line. See if he can provide a title for the original frame and engine, too.
I have not heard that before. Is it new? My last bike was titled in Wisconsin and when I transferred it here I only remember giving them the frame vin. This could pit a damper on things. Lol
I thought u were gonna get an 848 ??? U know u want one [evil]
There is an 848 on craigslist right now for 9k. A little out of my price range at the moment though. :-\
I talked to the guy some more tonight. He has the title from the s4r as well, it is still in the insurance company's name he bought it from, he never had it switched. The s2r's frame title is what the bike is titled under and it is a clear title registered in IL under the guy's name.
So if I have both titles in my name I should not have any problems titling the bike here in MN correct?
I'll be calling the DMV in the morning to be sure.
Any other pitfalls I should be worried about?
Thanks for the help so far.
Talked to the DMV this morning. According to the phone call this morning I won't have any issues since it is already titled in IL under the clean titled frame. They will ask for the engine number as well, but it won't matter if they do not match. Looks like I'm going to jump on this unless somebody stops me...
there is a spot on the mn title that says engine #. call the dmv and ask. it might turn into a rebuilt/salvage here, that devalues the bike some. I would wait a little and low ball this guy. It has enough red flags that most people will shy away if you need a short term solution to you and the mrs getting a few rides in this fall stop buy and pick up one of my extras.
Quote from: minnesotamonster on October 07, 2009, 06:29:23 AMLooks like I'm going to jump on this unless somebody stops me...
By "somebody", you better not mean me! [moto]
I'm not paying full price ;)
Thanks for the offer :)
When I talked to the DMV they said it would be titled here in MN without any issues and not be a salvaged/rebuilt bike.
Do I have my bases covered here?
Honestly, I wouldn't even care if they changed it to salvaged/rebuilt. As long as I can insure and ride it, it's fine by me. I don't buy things with the intent on reselling them.
It sounds like you'll have all the paperwork. Good luck with the purchase.
funny, the frame vin and the engine don't always match for some makes. what ever you do don't go to the hen co gvt center. if your going to have a title issue thats not the place to be. trust me I just went through explaining to all 400lbs of She'ne'ne' that dirt bikes don't have titles they have mso's finally I walked away and went to a different dmv and was in and out in 5 min. [bacon]
Quote from: atomic410 on October 07, 2009, 07:57:59 AM
funny, the frame vin and the engine don't always match for some makes. what ever you do don't go to the hen co gvt center. if your going to have a title issue thats not the place to be. trust me I just went through explaining to all 400lbs of She'ne'ne' that dirt bikes don't have titles they have mso's finally I walked away and went to a different dmv and was in and out in 5 min. [bacon]
I think you missed a couple apostrophes ;)
Did you get it?
Meeting him on Saturday in Wisconsin dells and riding her home [moto]
roadtrip [moto] are you going to ho chunk?
[laugh] we may stop in.
Saturday is looking pretty nice weather wise, hopefully I'll get lucky and it'll stay that way.
Quote from: minnesotamonster on October 13, 2009, 03:55:25 PM
[laugh] we may stop in.
Saturday is looking pretty nice weather wise, hopefully I'll get lucky and it'll stay that way.
Do u really plan on riding the bike home ? [roll] And whats ho chunk ?
Why you [roll] me?
Ho chunk is a casino
Sweet dude!
So you're saying I shouldn't ride in my wife beater and flip flops?! ???
damn, I was really hoping that Ho Chunk was a fat chick strip club. [bacon]
Quote from: atomic410 on October 15, 2009, 08:40:46 AM
damn, I was really hoping that Ho Chunk was a fat chick strip club. [bacon]
Plenty of them in sconnie. We should go on a club crawl next summer; I'm sure we could get through 5 or 6 in an evening. ( I don't know this from personal experience but a friend from work told me all about it)
as long as we can start or finish at the lockness [bacon]
we can start and finish at the loch
Bring your sombrero...I'll have my cowboy hat. John, do you have a beenie? I'm thinking dollar bills taped to the propellor.
well if were going to the loch I'm bringing my head lamp [bacon]
Fine, then we can give Mo the sombrero. But one of needs a vote for Pedro shirt.
When I told my buddies about this, they insisted on coming along. So we have company now. I'll need help buying them drinks...they can get crazy.
I can't wait...this is gonna rock [beer]
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Brrrrr. Lol.
It wasn't that bad. Met the guy this morning in Wisconsin. Took the bike for a spin and looked her over and brought her home. Ran great the whole way and damn do those boom tubes sound good. Nap time now. Will post pics later.
Pics:
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(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x34/jakeketchmark/DSC02706.jpg)
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x34/jakeketchmark/DSC02707.jpg)
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Question. I noticed tonight when I was looking it over a little better that the rear shock rotates about 30 degrees back and forth (twists?) in its position. It doesn't have any lateral play, but the whole shock spins back and forth a bit if you grab and turn it. I am guessing this is not normal. How do I fix?
Other than that the bike runs and rides great. Need to get the suspension set up for me though, it is extremely stiff for my skinny ass.
Bits it came with:
Cycle Cat frame sliders
Bar Risers
Boom Tubes
PC3
K&N Air Filter
CRG mirrors
DP Pressure Plate
SpeedyMoto Clutch Cover
Oberon Signals
Integrated Tailight
Also need to paint/repaint a few things....Mo are you interested in some work???
Anybody need a set of bar risers? First thing I did was take them off when I got home, felt like I was riding with ape hangers on the way home [laugh]
I also got the original frame from the s4r that is presumably straight. I might have a winter project ;D
nice
Quote from: minnesotamonster on October 17, 2009, 04:23:43 PM
Question. I noticed tonight when I was looking it over a little better that the rear shock rotates about 30 degrees back and forth (twists?) in its position. It doesn't have any lateral play, but the whole shock spins back and forth a bit if you grab and turn it. I am guessing this is not normal. How do I fix?
The shock uses spherical bearings for mounts, so it will be able to rotate. If there isn't any play otherwise you're fine.
Congrats on the new bike.
Thanks brian, that makes me feel better.
Went to the DMV this morning. No problems. [thumbsup]
What did you end up getting it titled as? An S2R or an S4R?
Did you need the separate VIN for engine and frame?
Quote from: minnesotamonster on October 19, 2009, 06:20:50 AM
Went to the DMV this morning. No problems. [thumbsup]
I'm not sure I've ever been at the DMV without a problem.
Now you can come over and adjust my valves just for practice.
Quote from: erik822 on October 19, 2009, 08:06:57 AM
What did you end up getting it titled as? An S2R or an S4R?
Did you need the separate VIN for engine and frame?
the guy had already titled the bike in IL as an s2r 800 (frame). All I needed was the IL title and the engine number off the s4r, not the VIN, since the IL title didn't have that info on the title.
Makes the insurance cheaper [thumbsup]
as for adjusting your valves john, not sure you want me to do that, although I would love to learn.