Schedule
(all left coast times)
Thursday, 15 October 2009
125 FP1 18:50 - 19:50
MotoGP FP1 19:55 - 20:55
250 FP1 21:10 - 22:10
Friday, 16 October 2009
125 FP2 15:00 - 15:40
MotoGP FP2 15:55 - 16:55
250 FP2 17:10 - 18:10
125 QP 19:00 - 19:40
MotoGP QP 19:55 - 20:55
250 QP 21:10 - 21:55
Saturday, 17 October 2009
125 WUP 15:40 - 16:00
250 WUP 16:10 - 16:30
MotoGP WUP 16:40 - 17:00
125 RAC 19:00
250 RAC 20:15
MotoGP RAC 22:00
You may point out that coverage for this is actually the evening before the days listed.
Pos Rider Bike Time Gap
1. Valentino Rossi Yamaha 1m31.032s
2. Casey Stoner Ducati 1m31.167s + 0.135s
3. Dani Pedrosa Honda 1m31.528s + 0.496s
4. Alex de Angelis Gresini Honda 1m31.786s + 0.754s
5. Colin Edwards Tech 3 Yamaha 1m31.846s + 0.814s
6. Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 1m32.077s + 1.045s
7. James Toseland Tech 3 Yamaha 1m32.255s + 1.223s
8. Andrea Dovizioso Honda 1m32.502s + 1.470s
9. Mika Kallio Pramac Ducati 1m32.572s + 1.540s
10. Loris Capirossi Suzuki 1m32.606s + 1.574s
11. Nicky Hayden Ducati 1m32.771s + 1.739s
12. Randy de Puniet LCR Honda 1m32.808s + 1.776s
13. Toni Elias Gresini Honda 1m33.304s + 2.272s
14. Marco Melandri Hayate 1m33.422s + 2.390s
15. Chris Vermeulen Suzuki 1m33.504s + 2.472s
16. Gabor Talmacsi Scot Honda 1m33.818s + 2.786s
17. Niccolo Canepa Pramac Ducati 1m34.546s + 3.514s
Quote from: Jester on October 15, 2009, 08:42:09 PM
You may point out that coverage for this is actually the evening before the days listed.
it already did, but i'll edit it to make it more obvious.
FP2 went wet about halfway through.
Four aliens at the top.
Business as usual.
Pos Rider Team Time Gap
1. Casey Stoner Ducati 1m30.626s
2. Dani Pedrosa Honda 1m30.674s + 0.048s
3. Valentino Rossi Yamaha 1m30.901s + 0.275s
4. Jorge Lorenzo Yamaha 1m31.427s + 0.801s
5. Alex de Angelis Gresini H 1m31.707s + 1.081s
6. Mika Kallio Pramac D 1m31.969s + 1.343s
7. Andrea Dovizioso Honda 1m32.176s + 1.550s
8. Toni Elias Gresini H 1m32.185s + 1.559s
9. Marco Melandri Hayate 1m32.303s + 1.677s
10. Nicky Hayden Ducati 1m32.403s + 1.777s
11. Loris Capirossi Suzuki 1m32.443s + 1.817s
12. James Toseland Tech 3 Y 1m32.905s + 2.279s
13. Chris Vermeulen Suzuki 1m33.017s + 2.391s
14. Randy de Puniet LCR H 1m33.261s + 2.635s
15. Gabor Talmacsi Scot H 1m33.471s + 2.845s
16. Colin Edwards Tech 3 Y 1m33.591s + 2.965s
Qualy
Stoner on pole by a whisker over Valentino.
Nicky 7th. w00t!
1 Casey STONER Ducati 1'30.341 322.404
2 Valentino ROSSI Yamaha 1'30.391 316.749 0.050
3 Dani PEDROSA Honda 1'31.070 318.705 0.729
4 Jorge LORENZO Yamaha 1'31.071 316.379 0.730
5 Colin EDWARDS Tech 3 1'31.096 316.379 0.755
6 Alex DE ANGELIS Gresini H 1'31.260 321.161 0.919
7 Nicky HAYDEN Ducati 1'31.325 318.799 0.984
8 Randy DE PUNIET LCR H 1'31.380 315.642 1.039
9 Mika KALLIO Pramac D 1'31.384 323.173 1.043
10 Andrea DOVIZIOSO Honda 1'31.472 318.799 1.131
11 Toni ELIAS Gresini H 1'31.640 324.043 1.299
12 James TOSELAND Tech 3 1'31.722 317.213 1.381
13 Loris CAPIROSSI Suzuki 1'31.873 315.274 1.532
14 Marco MELANDRI Hayate 1'32.190 318.799 1.849
15 Chris VERMEULEN Suzuki 1'32.338 313.632 1.997
16 Gabor TALMACSI Scot H 1'32.752 313.723 2.411
Wow, Rossi & Stoner 7 tenths ahead.
This is going to be great, Stoner & Lorenzo going balls out, Rossi using all his racecraft to finish ahead or just behind Lorenzo and Dani beat all to hell again, after his tumble in qualifing.
Quote from: bdfinally on October 17, 2009, 09:55:56 AM
This is going to be great, Stoner & Lorenzo going balls out, Rossi using all his racecraft to finish ahead or just behind Lorenzo and Dani beat all to hell again, after his tumble in qualifing.
by "this" you mean 2009? ;)
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make the beast with two backs yeah!!!
I'm not sure who has had worse luck this season -- Hayden or Spies. Man, that's brutal.
Watching Stoner and Rossi slide those bikes was magical. They were running a ridiculous pace up front. That was really fun to watch those guys ride, even though there wasn't any fighting for the victory.
Lorenzo didn't need to push like that. Just another young rider mistake he can learn from. He had the pace to claw back fourth or maybe third even had he lost a few spots at the start. He was never going to run with Stoner/Rossi anyway.
make the beast with two backs yes!!!!!!!!!!!! [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [thumbsup] [bow_down]
[clap]
That was beautiful in your face racing !
And Casey's mystery illness is...
1st place mother fookers!!!!
Damn +11 watching vale and Casey slide it around corners was awe inspiring.
"they're going to need to add an extra reservoir to Casey's tank just for his massive kahoonas"
-DQ
Great win from Stoner considering its his second race back.
I feel sorry for Nicky being taken out like that. All that work all weekend only to be taken out BEFORE the first corner. At least the rain held off.
Did anyone see Melandri take out the seagull on Sat practice? One less flying rat on the island and in spectaular fashion.
What did we think of the white bike?
Nicky can't catch a break...
Yorgy needs to finish races to be able to win...
maybe Rossi will point that out to him. ;D
I wonder what Wayne Gardner had to say after this STFU moment
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Quote“Physically, I was able to do the same from start to finish, and I was just really happy with the way everything was working. Especially with my body; every lap I kept going past the point where I used to just hit my wall. It made me smile, and I enjoyed each lap after that. It’s very nice to be back here, and I thank Marlboro for allowing me to use this livery and to the team and everybody for supporting me. To do three from three is a very nice way to end the year for me.â€
Quote from: bdfinally on October 18, 2009, 07:26:48 AM
I wonder what Wayne Gardner had to say after this STFU moment
probably the same thing he said from the beginning:
"It's very suspicious, I wish there had have been some sort of answer to it, that he'd come out with some sort of answer, because there is certainly an air of mystery to it.''
"I personally haven't ever seen anyone just stop for a rest during the year in my time of grand prix racing. It's certainly an unanswered question,'' he said.
"I don't think it puts a question mark on him as a competitor but it would just be nice to know what was the reasoning for it … I think he probably needs to come up with some answers.''
"I don't tell him how to ride his motorbike and that's the way he does things, but it's certainly very unusual and very unique that someone stops and has a rest for three or four races in the middle of the year and then comes back out and races and says, 'I'm better now'.''
Quote from: derby on October 18, 2009, 07:51:05 AM
probably the same thing he said from the beginning: "casey handled the whole situation poorly."
And won handing vale's ass to
him.Boo hoo
Quote from: Desmostro on October 18, 2009, 07:54:26 AM
And won handing vale's ass to
him.Boo hoo
i doubt vale was too heartbroken over his second place. casey is about to lose his second world championship in a row and rossi is about to put an eighth feather in his cap.
“I read on my board that Lorenzo was out, so I tried for the victory. Casey set a good pace, but my bike setting was good so I tried to follow him at 100%, but also had to remember not to make any mistakes for the championship after Lorenzo’s crash. It was a great battle. I tried, at one part of the race it was possible to attack, but at the end it was too risky and anyway Casey had a great race.â€
“These 20 points are so important for my championship. I have to thank Yamaha and all the guys in my team because we worked well this weekend and now we have a 38-point advantage with two races to go and we will try to do better next week in Sepang.â€
That's a good excuse. There's no denying Vale's mastery, and he'll prolly win the title baring any craziness. But Casey won fair and square after a whole lot of bullshit ney saying and drama.
Quote from: derby on October 18, 2009, 08:15:42 AM
“I read on my board that Lorenzo was out, so I tried for the victory. Casey set a good pace, but my bike setting was good so I tried to follow him at 100%, but also had to remember not to make any mistakes for the championship after Lorenzo’s crash. It was a great battle. I tried, at one part of the race it was possible to attack, but at the end it was too risky and anyway Casey had a great race.â€
“These 20 points are so important for my championship. I have to thank Yamaha and all the guys in my team because we worked well this weekend and now we have a 38-point advantage with two races to go and we will try to do better next week in Sepang.â€
I think Nicky's mom broke Lorenzo's nose.
Quote from: Ivan V on October 18, 2009, 08:36:19 AM
Rossi said something like "this was the most fun 2nd place of my career".
Casey is the man! I don't care what was wrong with him, it's good to see him back.
And what's with all those pretty women in his pit??
Poor luck for Lorenzo. Worst possible scenario. He even had his right hand bandaged after the crash. And something on his nose...Any news on this?
Only 4-5 days until Malaysia.
Cheers.
Quote from: derby on October 18, 2009, 07:56:27 AMi doubt vale was too heartbroken over his second place. casey is about to lose his second world championship in a row and rossi is about to put an eighth feather in his cap.
Are you seriously defending Rossi and taking a shot a Stoner?
That's probably one of the least classy things I've seen written in a serious thread by one of the good guys for some time. Wow.
Quote from: EvilSteve on October 18, 2009, 08:44:11 AM
Are you seriously defending Rossi and taking a shot a Stoner?
That's probably one of the least classy things I've seen written in a serious thread by one of the good guys for some time. Wow.
I didn't read it that way.
Quote from: Ivan V on October 18, 2009, 08:36:19 AM
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And what's with all those pretty women in his pit??
<snip>
Cheers.
Possibly the cause of the stamina issue? ;D
Quote from: EvilSteve on October 18, 2009, 08:44:11 AM
Are you seriously defending Rossi and taking a shot a Stoner?
That's probably one of the least classy things I've seen written in a serious thread by one of the good guys for some time. Wow.
i probably should've expounded a bit on my point.
if it read that way, i blame it on waking up at 4a, lack of early morning coffee, and the tone of the "gardner/stfu" and "boo hoo" comments. ;D
regarding the finish of today's race, stoner was fast all weekend and had nothing to lose. once lorenzo was out, rossi had no reason to push the issue with stoner.
regarding the comments about his recent absence, i think that the perception is the we've been saying stoner was done, finished, washed-up, etc., and that's not the case, at least not from my end. my position is that he very much handled the situation about as poorly as possible with regards to ducati and marlboro.
Quote from: derby on October 18, 2009, 09:05:09 AM
regarding the comments about his recent absence, i think that the perception is the we've been saying stoner was done, finished, washed-up, etc., and that's not the case, at least not from my end. my position is that he very much handled the situation about as poorly as possible with regards to ducati and marlboro.
+1 as that being the general feeling about Stoner
I had said in another thread, but time away from the track isn't going to slow these guys down. They take off all winter and are running full speed in a day after they return. Stoner has won one of two races I predicted he might. Valencia will probably be his other victory.
I don't think Stoner handed Vale his ass at all. Stoner was pushing 100%+ during that race and Vale pretty much stuck on his butt the entire race. They were sliding the hell out of those bikes and Vale had no reason at all to push that hard, knowing his championship is pretty much wrapped up. I think he was having the time of his life riding like that behind Stoner. On the cool down Rossi pointed to Stoner after the handshake almost to say "damn you were batshit fast today, thumbs up."
They pretty much ran pole laps for half the race. That was a fun one, win or lose imo.
I think Gardner's comment's were much the same as Schwantz's, that Stoner wasn't "tough enough," in that "back in the day" sense.
QuoteCasey Stoner, who recently silenced his critics by taking a podium finish at last weekend’s Portuguese MotoGP, says he has lost respect for Kevin Schwantz. Last month, Schwantz had implied in an interview that things weren’t right with Stoner, that he made a surprisingly incorrect tyre choice at Donington and that he should be out there competing and doing his best to win, rather than missing multiple races because of some mystery illness.
Now that Stoner is back â€" and seems to be winning as effortlessly as ever â€" he has something to say about Kevin. ‘What he said really upset me. I've lost a lot of respect for Kevin Schwantz after what he said. I had a lot of respect for that guy â€" he’s been one of my favourite riders and probably one of the most exciting riders to watch. When somebody like that says something like that, it shows you that experience counts for nothing, which is what I've been trying to tell people for a long time now,’ says Stoner.
‘I saw the Kevin Schwantz thing and it really made me laugh. It pissed me off at the same time, because I had a lot of respect for those riders. Jeremy McWilliams as well. I mean, what the hell do they know? Really, what do they know? Everyone's sitting there with an opinion, when they know nothing and they don't know the situation. They couldn't see that I was sick after every race. You know, we had an issue, we had a problem, and we had to fix it. And it's nice to come back and show people that we've fixed it. We did have a problem, and now we're back,’ says the 2007 MotoGP world champ.
I watched the race on a Britsh Eurosport feed. Moody/Ryder spent alot of the second half of the race talking about both of them running at 100%, about Val's need to put Casey back in his box and how Stoner was doing something totally amazing and wonderous, considering he hadn't trained in 5 months and that, with this and Estoril, all his critics should be silenced. I agree with them, it was a STFU moment.
Did anyone catch the legacy ride with Doohan, Bayliss, and Gardner riding streetbikes around the circuit? Doohan lit that CBR's rear tire up the entire length of the straight...just plain awesome ;D
Quote from: desmoquattro on October 18, 2009, 11:03:50 AM
Did anyone catch the legacy ride with Doohan, Bayliss, and Gardner riding streetbikes around the circuit? Doohan lit that CBR's rear tire up the entire length of the straight...just plain awesome ;D
gardner did it all the way out of the pit straight.
Casey Stoner backing it in around turn 3 last lap.
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that's f'king sideways gentlemen
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[bow_down]
Vale's tongue
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2517/4023204155_0573c8f5d2.jpg) [laugh]
Superb result for Stoner and Ducati [thumbsup]
Way to go Casey [clap]
Lorenzo runs over Hayden and the announcer says, "nobody's fault there". >:(
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 18, 2009, 02:58:13 PM
Lorenzo runs over Hayden and the announcer says, "nobody's fault there". >:(
It wasn't reported that way on the euro feeds.
You musta been watching the NASCAR channel...
rubbin' is racin' ;)
I have nothing against NASCAR...but...
Stuff like that is the reason moto people hate speed.
The announcers for the MotoGP aren't NASCAR annoucers. They are Euro. ;)
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 18, 2009, 02:58:13 PM
Lorenzo runs over Hayden and the announcer says, "nobody's fault there". >:(
That's exactly what I was thinking. Lorenzo ran right up his ass. How is it nobody's fault?
Stoner's bike: I liked it. The white leathers? Not so much.
Quote from: Desmostro on October 18, 2009, 01:52:42 PM
Casey Stoner backing it in around turn 3 last lap.
that's f'king sideways gentlemen
i think we have another pic of that around here from last year's race...
Quote from: Jester on October 18, 2009, 10:16:29 AM
+1 as that being the general feeling about Stoner
Exactly. Just because some people think Stoner handled the situation poorly doesn't mean they think he is slow. I think most expected him to do exactly what he has done...return and join the ranks of the big 4.
Great race by Stoner...he was flat flying! It would have been nice if Rossi had a reason to battle for 1st, but I think Stoner would have still won today. He seemed like he
really wanted the win. His slides were amazing...as was the way he handled that bike bucking/shaking out of some of the corners! [bow_down] [bow_down]
Tough luck for Hayden. :-[
I thought Stoner's bike and leathers were cool. [thumbsup]
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 18, 2009, 03:04:41 PM
The announcers for the MotoGP aren't NASCAR annoucers. They are Euro. ;)
The announcers on Eurosport saw it correctly I guess. They called it Lorenzos' fault all the way.
casey stoner drift (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F34pZnbpOu0#normal)
WTF is up with that song. [bang] [bang]
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 18, 2009, 06:06:10 PM
WTF is up with that song. [bang] [bang]
I turned the sound off. ;)
Quote from: kopfjäger on October 18, 2009, 02:58:13 PM
Lorenzo runs over Hayden and the announcer says, "nobody's fault there". >:(
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/153666/1/lorenzo_wrecks_titles_chances_sorry_for_hayden.html (http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/153666/1/lorenzo_wrecks_titles_chances_sorry_for_hayden.html)
"I'm a little bit sad for this crash, not for the championship but for my mistake; I didn't expect this kind of mistake from myself,†said Lorenzo. “It was totally my fault, I miscalculated the distance off the line and Nicky braked earlier than I was expecting and I hit him.
...
“I want to say sorry to Nicky because I ruined his race today."
Love the white Duke, the Oz flag, kangaroos on the boots and helmet, shit yeah! go Oz, Stoner and Ducati!
A typical Phillip Island GP. By typical I mean fantastic!
Every motorcycle rider should make the trip to the Island and stand at turn one (4 meters away) and watch those legends race around the best bike track in the world. It is a track made for GP bikes, flat out hard charging, big kahunas, thats what it is all about!
Stoner was and is the sultan of slide. To all those pretenders who doubted him, I say have a long hard look at your selves, ya wankers!
Go Stoner ya legend!
Quote from: ducpainter on October 18, 2009, 03:29:47 PM
The announcers on Eurosport saw it correctly I guess. They called it Lorenzos' fault all the way.
I had the Moody/Ryder show going too...did you hear them say, in the late stages of the race, that Spies would have a full 5 engine allocation for Valencia?
Quote from: bdfinally on October 19, 2009, 08:02:53 AM
I had the Moody/Ryder show going too...did you hear them say, in the late stages of the race, that Spies would have a full 5 engine allocation for Valencia?
With the WSBK Yamaha, he might need it...the MotoGP machine, not so much :)
Quote from: bdfinally on October 19, 2009, 08:02:53 AM
I had the Moody/Ryder show going too...did you hear them say, in the late stages of the race, that Spies would have a full 5 engine allocation for Valencia?
Yes, but it sounded more like conversation than a possible scenario. ;)
I liked the AUS flag livery...
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Quote from: desmoquattro on October 19, 2009, 08:13:08 AM
With the WSBK Yamaha, he might need it...the MotoGP machine, not so much :)
I think the gist of what they were getting at was that they could build an enjine or 2 for him that wouldn't constricted by the laws of nature the others have had to live under for the last races.
That'll make Edwards happy, bring Spies to the table with a hotrod motor. [laugh]
I agree, but who do you wanna make happier, the guy you're investing in the future with or the guy you strung out to the end and then signed [beer]
Well, hopefully Edwards has more than 2 motors left, so they can tune up his too. ;D
I'm thinking we may see some bikes getting faster, and others slower.
Perhaps Pedrosa's running low on engines, so they detuned one a bit for Philip Island?
Quote from: Speeddog on October 19, 2009, 09:01:25 PM
Well, hopefully Edwards has more than 2 motors left, so they can tune up his too. ;D
I'm thinking we may see some bikes getting faster, and others slower.
Perhaps Pedrosa's running low on engines, so they detuned one a bit for Philip Island?
From the way it sounds, you can't crack the cases for repairs or any other reason, so I don't see how you can get a hotrodded version in there, or a detuned for that matter. I think they had them all wrapped up and sealed at the beginning. You don't just show up with a new engine if one breaks, they have already been chosen and put aside. I believe the only way to get an updated engine in there is to break your first five and then start rolling in new ones.
Quote from: Speeddog on October 19, 2009, 09:01:25 PM
Well, hopefully Edwards has more than 2 motors left, so they can tune up his too. ;D
I'm thinking we may see some bikes getting faster, and others slower.
Perhaps Pedrosa's running low on engines, so they detuned one a bit for Philip Island?
Maybe they only can afford 1 cup of nitro. He blasts off like a firecracker, then coasts the rest of the race. Weird how he had no explanation for this consistency in the interviews. [coffee]
Quote from: Jester on October 20, 2009, 12:07:28 AM
From the way it sounds, you can't crack the cases for repairs or any other reason, so I don't see how you can get a hotrodded version in there, or a detuned for that matter. I think they had them all wrapped up and sealed at the beginning. You don't just show up with a new engine if one breaks, they have already been chosen and put aside. I believe the only way to get an updated engine in there is to break your first five and then start rolling in new ones.
And then start last row I guess. funny rule.
I was thinking 'external' hotrodding, via the ECU; more fuel, more aggressive ignition timing, higher rev limit.
Perhaps changes to the exhaust and intake plumbing too.
You know, I think the fixed engine alotment actually hurts the racing more than it helps on the financial side. If you enter the season with an uncompetitive engine, then what are you to do? For instance in the past, Honda swapped to the pneumatic in midseason to get a power boost, but under the new rules I don't see how this is really possible without killing your grid position. Unless I read it wrong, you better get your off-season updates right or you're in for a very long year.
Quote from: Jester on October 20, 2009, 09:20:27 AM
You know, I think the fixed engine alotment actually hurts the racing more than it helps on the financial side. If you enter the season with an uncompetitive engine, then what are you to do? For instance in the past, Honda swapped to the pneumatic in midseason to get a power boost, but under the new rules I don't see how this is really possible without killing your grid position. Unless I read it wrong, you better get your off-season updates right or you're in for a very long year.
I believe when they started the rule, there was five motors available. You could choose how many you wanted sealed. Take two out of those five and have them sealed to race with. The other three you can update and make changes to, but once you have them sealed by tech, that's it.
Also didn't the announcers say something about Suzuki being penalized for motors, but they were going to use the rest of the season as development time?
Quote from: DanTheMan on October 20, 2009, 09:37:00 AM
Also didn't the announcers say something about Suzuki being penalized for motors, but they were going to use the rest of the season as development time?
yup, loris had already used his allotment for the season.
Quote from: derby on October 20, 2009, 09:39:57 AM
yup, loris had already used his allotment for the season.
Whats the penalty? start at the back?
and -10 Constructor's points...Zuk had nothing really to lose.
Quote from: DanTheMan on October 20, 2009, 10:11:51 AM
Whats the penalty? start at the back?
start from the back plus a 10 point deduction from the constructor's championship.
http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/3040/motogp-engine-penalty-revised (http://www.twowheelsblog.com/post/3040/motogp-engine-penalty-revised)
Quote from: derby on October 20, 2009, 10:19:28 AM
...plus a 10 point deduction from the constructor's championship.
That's gonna hurt 'em... ;D
Quote from: Jester on October 20, 2009, 09:20:27 AM
You know, ] I think the fixed engine alotment actually hurts the racing more than it helps on the financial side. If you enter the season with an uncompetitive engine, then what are you to do? For instance in the past, Honda swapped to the pneumatic in midseason to get a power boost, but under the new rules I don't see how this is really possible without killing your grid position. Unless I read it wrong, you better get your off-season updates right or you're in for a very long year.
seriously. Your advertising dollars not working at the back of the grid right? Unless you're getting lapped by the leaders. Maybe why poor Nicky stayed back. I could cry for the guy. Anyone catch any quotes at all from him since Phil island?
Standard Nicky; said it was a bad day, but that's in the past, looking forward to Thailand.
I recall one wag posting up on one of the sites that he's hoping Nicky doesn't land a sponsorhip from Target. [laugh]
Quote from: Speeddog on October 20, 2009, 02:14:05 PM
I recall one wag posting up on one of the sites that he's hoping Nicky doesn't land a sponsorhip from Target. [laugh]
[laugh] [laugh] Nice.
Quote from: Speeddog on October 20, 2009, 02:14:05 PM
Standard Nicky; said it was a bad day, but that's in the past, looking forward to Thailand.
Nicky's getting in an extracurricular trip before Sepang? Good...that boy needs to get laid after all that's happened to him ;D
Man, I just watched that vid of Casey's slide a coupla more times. Just for fun. It made me all tingly down there. [thumbsup]
Quote from: desmoquattro on October 20, 2009, 02:47:06 PM
Nicky's getting in an extracurricular trip before Sepang? Good...that boy needs to get laid after all that's happened to him ;D
Oops, my bad. :P
[cheeky]
Quote from: Spidey on October 20, 2009, 03:10:18 PM
Man, I just watched that vid of Casey's slide a coupla more times. Just for fun. It made me all tingly down there. [thumbsup]
That was good indeed. [thumbsup]
Casey had the hammer down, he wants 3rd place from McPintsize.
He was talking like 3rd was a joke thing to go after. Like it was "2nd looser" position.
I'm guessing he's out for some kicking of asses as much as posible. He did say he had 'nothing to loose.' Should be interesting for sure.
Rossi is saying the opposite, he has everything to loose.
I especially loved Mr. 5 (Edwards') comment. 'There's the Stoner - Rossi race, then there's the other race.' [laugh]
Quote from: Speeddog on October 20, 2009, 04:48:11 PM
That was good indeed. [thumbsup]
Casey had the hammer down, he wants 3rd place from McPintsize.
http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2009/MotoGP+Rewind+Phillip+Island
I had to watch that again. Damn that was some good riding.
so, what numer does McPintSize run next year if he's 4th in the championship standings since Dovi has #4 currently.
Quote from: zooom on October 30, 2009, 03:16:43 AM
so, what numer does McPintSize run next year if he's 4th in the championship standings since Dovi has #4 currently.
Wont the championship placement number take precident over other numbers?
Quote from: DanTheMan on October 30, 2009, 10:01:12 AM
Wont the championship placement number take precident over other numbers?
no. that's not something the series does, it's something pedro has been doing the last couple years on his own... the numbers corresponding to his finishing position just happen to have been available
Quote from: gm2 on October 30, 2009, 10:54:28 AM
no. that's not something the series does, it's something pedro has been doing the last couple years on his own... the numbers corresponding to his finishing position just happen to have been available
http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/Codes_et_reglements/ROAD_RACING_GP_Eng.pdf (http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/Codes_et_reglements/ROAD_RACING_GP_Eng.pdf)
1.12 Starting Numbers
1.12.1 Each rider accepted for the Championship will be allocated a specific
starting number which will be valid for the whole Championship. In
general, the starting numbers will be based on the results of the team
riders in the previous year's Championship or in other similar events.that "in general" is somewhat vague. historically, the racers took their championship position as their number for the next year. that has somewhat fallen out of vogue in the last decade, though some racers continue the practice.
the real question would be whether dovi would be forced to give up his number so pedro could run his finishing position.
Quote from: derby on October 30, 2009, 11:41:15 AM
http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/Codes_et_reglements/ROAD_RACING_GP_Eng.pdf (http://www.fim-live.com/fileadmin/alfresco/Codes_et_reglements/ROAD_RACING_GP_Eng.pdf)
1.12 Starting Numbers
1.12.1 Each rider accepted for the Championship will be allocated a specific
starting number which will be valid for the whole Championship. In
general, the starting numbers will be based on the results of the team
riders in the previous year's Championship or in other similar events.
that "in general" is somewhat vague. historically, the racers took their championship position as their number for the next year. that has somewhat fallen out of vogue in the last decade, though some racers continue the practice.
the real question would be whether dovi would be forced to give up his number so pedro could run his finishing position.
If Casey ends up 3rd in the championship, I doubt he'd take the #3...would that not leave it open for Pedro to keep?
In general, i think those two will run whatever numbers Honda wants them to run. :P
Quote from: DanTheMan on October 30, 2009, 12:04:47 PM
In general, i think those two will run whatever numbers Honda wants them to run. :P
the only number honda has ever really cared about is #1. rossi kinda stuck 'em in the eye with that one.
Quote from: derby on October 30, 2009, 11:41:15 AM
somewhat fallen out of vogue in the last decade
that's what i was referring to
I think "1/2" is still available for Pedro....
;D
That's cold.
;D