Any long term issues you think? Cause it is loud as hell but I want to avoid wearing ear plugs
eh?
1) wind noise is probably a bigger enemy
2) the pipes are probably loud enough to cause damage either way
3) hearing damage is gradual, cumulative, and irreversible
4) if you ride a moto without earplugs you WILL go deaf
5) prior to going deaf you'll hear such a nasty, constant ringing you'll almost hope to go deaf faster
6) it all sucks
7) wear the make the beast with two backsing plugs-always.
I rode a S4Rs w. Termis - silencers plus open air box and it was DAMN loud.
My 1098-R has Full Race Termi System w, no silencers.
I didn't wear ear plugs for about a month but finally found a pair I like and have worn them ever since after I got the S4Rs.
Dave is so right , the sound of the wind above 35mph will ruin your hearing . Wear ear plugs if you don't want to be driven crazy by the insects !
Right now I can turn off all sound producing things and it sounds like a million insects in my ears.
40 some years of riding without ear plugs......plus a lot of Rock concerts back in the day and played in a Rock band.
Dolph :)
Yeah that was what I was thinking, cause it is deafening at the moment. Ear plugs, what a pain in the ass
Quote from: yang258 on March 23, 2010, 08:27:18 PM
Yeah that was what I was thinking, cause it is deafening at the moment. Ear plugs, what a pain in the ass
I'm half deaf.
Stop whining. ;)
Quote from: yang258 on March 23, 2010, 08:27:18 PM
Yeah that was what I was thinking, cause it is deafening at the moment. Ear plugs, what a pain in the ass
Not so much. Just get some of the foam ones, and you're good to go.
What? I can't hear what you guys are saying.
Once you get used to riding with ear plugs you will never want to ride without them.
You guys are wearing full-face helmet, flip, bowls ?? The sound of the wind ? We don't have the same helmet ...
Yeah, wind noise is louder at speed than my exhaust (07 S4RS with full Termi kit; no db killers). Of course the exhaust IS lounder, but you have to be behind the cans to get the full effect. On the bike, wind noise is louder.
I wear full coverage helmet AND ear plugs. Wear ear plugs. Even in a full coverage helmet the wind noise is louder than you might think.
I too have a bad case of tinnitis (tinitis?). The horrible constant buzzing/ringing in the ears. I'm half deaf.
Of course, riding without a helmet is even worse for hearing loss. The wind noise over the ears is tremendous; ears aren't that aerodynamically slick. IMO, hearing loss is the greatest argument against going without a full coverage helmet.
Spend a few bucks and get some good reusable ear plugs with the highest db rating you can find.
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=25518.0 (http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=25518.0)
Consider the points therein.
Ear plugs are cheap...I think its worth 2 bucks for a lifetime of hearing. I'm trying to get my bro to wear them but he never listens, perhaps he's already half deaf?
use the foam earplugs or get custom ones made for you.
its up to you what you want. i have a set of custom ones and really don't like riding wihtout them anymore.
they take a few days to get used to if you have never ridden with them but after a couple of weeks you won't be able to ride without them again.
the wind noise is a constant drone that will destry your hearing over time.
remember, your hearing once damaged will NEVER heal and get better it will only get Worse.
Prevent it from getting any worse or at the very least slow the progression of damage so that it takes decades rather than a couple of years to lose your hearing.
Quote from: toudg on March 24, 2010, 05:44:43 AM
You guys are wearing full-face helmet, flip, bowls ?? The sound of the wind ? We don't have the same helmet ...
They are all probably wearing good full face helmets. You have wind noise too... you just might not realize what it is. Yes, some helmets are better than others, but there is no way to not have a constant level of wind noise while riding. If you're not wearing plugs, start and you'll notice a difference.
Besides the hearing damage factor of not wearing plugs - you will fatigue faster
Quote from: sbrguy on March 24, 2010, 09:22:01 AM
use the foam earplugs or get custom ones made for you.
Some of the foam earplugs come in different sizes. I found the slim or junior version to fit me best....better than customs!
Quote from: CDawg on March 24, 2010, 01:04:21 PM
Some of the foam earplugs come in different sizes. I found the slim or junior version to fit me best....better than customs!
And, you can get them to match your helmet!
I asked this question a year ago, about 6 months later than i shoudl have.
Tinitis SUCKS.
I actually prefer riding with plugs - think you will find most people do once they get used to it.
WEAR PLUGS EVERY RIDE.
go with the Termi's
http://www.quietrelief.com/ (http://www.quietrelief.com/)
I bought stock
Yeah I dont really have much of a problem with wind noise either...
It the open clutch at traffic lights and termis when Im going hard
Wind noise is the enemy.
Sound out of the exhaust is nothing.
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i no longer can enjoy the silence
even with ear plugs in i hear it
freakin got it from music, motorcycles and women
Let's see, raced minibikes when 2 strokes were all the rage (remember Noguchi Yamahas?). Raced dirt bikes in my teens and 20's. More 2 strokes, and loud ones at that. I've been doing machine work for almost 30 years. Large, loud machines. Been riding for about 38 years. I can't stand having anything in my ears. Amazingly enough, I can still hear fairly well at almost 50. Just lucky I guess.
When was your last hearing test?
I think I hear good ....but it's the noise in the silence that's just crazy.
Sounds just like sitting out in a field in the late Summer after dark.
The multitude of the Insect world here in Ohio is at it's peak at the end of August.......all screaming at the best of their ability !
Fastenal makes a great pair of Earplugs that are on a thin plastic string . I can fit them in my ears so that they seal out the sound of my Ducati 1098-R ....I just feel the engine.
Without the " plugs ," I can't bare the dbs of the Termi race Exhaust on the " R." It is a Heavenly song if you can take it.
Dolph :(
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 27, 2010, 08:06:03 PM
When was your last hearing test?
It's 10:25 am, why do you ask?
It's been about 30 years. I'm just going by TV volume levels, hearing things on the bike, and other minute details. I'm sure there is some damage. But it isn't having any effect yet. It's not time to eat a bullet yet.
Quote from: bobspapa on March 24, 2010, 04:51:28 PM
go with the Termi's
http://www.quietrelief.com/ (http://www.quietrelief.com/)
I bought stock
Seriously?!?!?
This has always looked like a total scam - can you elaborate?
I would never have considered earplugs if not for the members of this board, now I can't imagine riding any real distance without 'em. The two blocks to work? Nah, too much effort. Takes longer to put 'em in than just get to the office. Heading to the gym, into the city, or anywhere farther than about 2km, and the plugs go in.
The difference is surprising. It's definitely true that there's less fatigue when you get off the bike.
Re: plugs with strings... I had a pair with a stiff plastic string between plugs, and I had to remove it. It'd rub against the inside of the helmet and sound far worse than without plugs.
Quote from: NFG on March 29, 2010, 02:27:30 PM
I would never have considered earplugs if not for the members of this board, now I can't imagine riding any real distance without 'em.
Holy crap-the board made a difference! ;D
Wear ear plugs. After my S4Rs with full Termis and a noisy Arai RX7 I got really scared I was going to go deaf. I used to get a "beeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee" noise in my right ear (usually after races or track days).
The 749 wasn't as bad but, man that S4Rs was just way too much.