Took a screw (hence, the name) in my practically new Pirelli Diablo rear tire.
Anyone know of a reputable-yet-extraordinarily-inexpensive motorcycle transporter to take my ST3 from Allen out to Randy's shop in Keller? Probably next week sometime.
Thanks.
i actually just used this about a week ago after discovering a screw in bryna's 919 rear tire... and about 15 minutes later we were good to go: http://www.stopngo.com/motorcycle.asp#tireplugger (http://www.stopngo.com/motorcycle.asp#tireplugger) that $32 kit is SO worth the money [thumbsup]
George,
Don't throw in the towel just yet! Are you planning on getting a new tire to replace the "screwed" tire? Pun intended. If the puncture is in the middle and not on the very edge of the tire it can be saved. I posted this very thing several months ago when Andy got a flat in a new tire on his 696. My friends at Action Kawasaki/Suzuki (east on I-30 from downtown BigD, take the Motley exit) use a galvanized patching method just like Discount Tire, etc. uses on auto tires. It's THE ONLY permanent patching job they will endorse and use. I had them patch my almost new rear Bridgestone on my GSXR1000 and I rode the shit out of it and never gave it a second thought. That patched tire saw 150+ many times over and I had no worries. Finally wore that set out and replaced them with Michelins. Looked at the inside of the patched rear when it was removed and it looked perfect!
http://www.actionsuzuki.com/index.htm (http://www.actionsuzuki.com/index.htm)
Ask for David Jones (service manger) and tell him I sent you. PM Andy and ask how it has worked out for him. I can't remember if he took in the wheel or the whole bike. Check 'em out, they're great guys and it beats the hell out of buying a new tire! [thumbsup] [moto]
fastwin
Maxim Honda did a nice job patching a screw hole I had on my hyper last year. Just brought them the bare wheel.
Quote from: webspoke on March 25, 2010, 02:54:34 AM
Maxim Honda did a nice job patching a screw hole I had on my hyper last year. Just brought them the bare wheel.
that's pretty impressive that they don't even need the tire to do the patch job!!
I've heard of miracles but damn
Rich, that's an excellent tire patching kit to keep with you on any ride. It just makes sense and the way they do it seems to work just fine. The one I carry underseat is an old t-handle/long plug/cement kit. It's patched many a VW tire back in the day but nothing like technology to make things better! Very cool. I will invest. [thumbsup]
Quote from: ♣ McKraut ♣ on March 25, 2010, 02:57:07 AM
that's pretty impressive that they don't even need the tire to do the patch job!!
Probably why it was so cheap! Back on topic, George, if you need trailer transport we could probably work something out . Or if you need a place to dismount the rear for a fix closer to home I probably have all the equipment and some extra space to do so.
As Brian said Action did a great job of plugging my tyre. It has been a few months and I have had no issues with it and I ride up and down the tollway everyday unless there is Snow/ice or rain.
I was lucky the tyre did not go flat with the screw in it so I could ride it there, they did it in about 30 minutes whilst I waited..
I've used a tire plug kit on my M900 when I ran over some metal that put two holes needing patching. This was on Pirelli Diablo's also and ran a few thousand miles on them (tire was probably was at its half-life) and worked great - had several runs @ 120+. Only thing I would recommend is to keep an eye on your tire pressure as mine started to lose air towars the end, before eventual replacement.
From what I have heard (and personally dealt with) is the StopnGo-type plug kits are a temporary fix to get you home. I doubt any tire manufacturer would endorse them for long term use. If it holds air then great, but I would put my faith in a new tire or the galvanized patch from a shop long before the temporary plug fix.
I keep my tire-fix kit with me on long rides. It has a StopnGo plug kit, a small tube of rubber cement (helps the plugs seal), a CO2 fill kit and the best of all... a Cycle Pump! It's a mini air compressor with a hose and valve stem "latch". It plugs into the "pig tail" that I have hard wired for the Battery Tender. It also comes with a wiring attachment with clamps for the pos/neg poles on your battery, if you don't have the "pig tail" wired in. It saved Scott's butt several times on an Arkansas ride. He had a puncture that just would not hold a StopnGo plug. Bet we plugged it 4-5 times and would still have to stop and air it up. Finally Alan used a different plug kit and that one held for the duration on the trip. That Cycle Pump was worth 10 times what it cost after that work out! We never could have carried enough of the big 40 gram CO2 cartridges to do the trick... which is my back up the the Cycle Pump.
sorry to hear you got screwed, George :o
My unsolicited advice would be only to patch a motorcycle tire when on the road, and then, only long enough to get down the road to the nearest shop. I have no horror stories, but why risk a flat? Also, you should get a rear stand, a 1/2" break-over bar, and a socket for your rear wheel nut. Then order a 180/55R-17 tire online and take it and your wheel to the nearest Japanese bike shop to have it mounted. Do this and you will save the cost of the new tools by the second or third tire change....
or, you can buy a $30 plug kit and call it a day... bryna's tire is still doing just fine. i, too, haven't heard any horror stories about plug kits, only good ones actually.
My 2c. If you ride 80 - 100 mph+, don't ride a plug.
Not worth the risk.
Ride safe, let's not loose another friend. [thumbsup]
And my .03 cents.....do you think 200 bucks is worth your life? You only have two wheels.
Yeah my .04 cents is to never ride a plugged tire. I've tossed two brand new tires to the trash due to being punctured. I could care less if a plug is reliable. With only two tires between me and a hospital, I'd prefer to drop the dough on a new hoop instead of fixing an old one.
I know plenty of people ride plugs, but it just doesn't seem worth it to me. /shrug
C'mon George - don't listen to those pussies! I rode 130+MPH on a plugged tire, and even got it to show some threads (near Paris, TX) before got it replaced. Let's get you fixed up. I've got a van that will haul any bike - no ramp though... I usually use a door at my garage :-) and the shop usually has the ramp :-). So hit me up, Ill take your bike there. 214-563-5946
Quote from: TresGatos on March 25, 2010, 06:06:55 PM
My 2c. If you ride 80 - 100 mph+, don't ride a plug.
Not worth the risk.
Ride safe, let's not loose another friend. [thumbsup]
yeah...i agree with you that of course if you have the scratch for a new tire and mounting it and a way to get it to a shop, than that's the way to go, especially if you plan on seeing track days or 100+mph (though, i think it could be argued that the risk of speed alone would far outweigh the risk of some catastrophic failure of a plug). but, for my or bryna's bike, i think the worst thing that happens is a slow leak would develop, which you would notice quickly checking your bike out pre-ride.
Very valuable and helpful comments.
I think the tire plug kits are an excellent emergency fix - I will get one of those recommended and carry it on the bike. Thanks for that info.
I have too many miles on ME to crash, heal and ride again... I agree with replacing the tire to improve the already poor odds we face on bikes. Hell, I'm practically MADE of money, so that's cheap insurance. ;D
I'm in a class all weekend except for Sunday morning. Next weekend would be far better for me, and the tire won't arrive at Randy's shop until later in the week. So, if anyone with wheels is available next Saturday (4/3) or Sunday, I'd sure appreciate the help.
OR if anyone knows of someone in that business, I'm happy to pay. As I said, just MADE of money.
Thanks again. What a great group of folks!
George (aka, "Tron")
Quote from: TresGatos on March 25, 2010, 06:06:55 PM
My 2c. If you ride 80 - 100 mph+, don't ride a plug.
Not worth the risk.
Ride safe, let's not loose another friend. [thumbsup]
I was riding @ 110 today coming into work and people say I'm not worth a plug ??? :-[ does that count?
[laugh] [laugh] Good one! Would that be a standard plug or a plug nickle? ;D
Hey George, we've got a trailer and truck so if you need help with the bike next weekend (or during the week next week), we're there [moto]
Quote from: fastwin on March 26, 2010, 06:29:56 AM
[laugh] [laugh] Good one! Would that be a standard plug or a plug nickle? ;D
In today's economy...$0.05 = 1 % of historic value, compounded depreciated value today = POS. What does that make me? ??? [laugh]
Quote from: fastwin on March 26, 2010, 06:29:56 AM
[laugh] [laugh] Good one! Would that be a standard plug or a plug nickle? ;D
Hair plug.
I'm very grateful for all the suggestions and offers of help from our wonderful fraternity.
I am forever indebted to Scott, who got up at dawn on Sunday, drove his truck up to Allen, brought his loading ramps, loaded my bike, drove us to Forney (wherever the hell THAT is), unloaded the bike and drove back to Stoneleigh P for brunch on MY timetable so that I could make my Sunday afternoon class. What a guy!
Thank you again, Scott. Dunno what I would have done without you.
George ("Tron")
Quote from: GeorgeInDallas on March 29, 2010, 05:42:18 AM
I am forever indebted to Scott, who got up at dawn on Sunday, drove his truck up to Allen, brought his loading ramps, loaded my bike, drove us to Keller (wherever the hell THAT is), unloaded the bike and drove back to Stoneleigh P for brunch on MY timetable so that I could make my Sunday afternoon class. What a guy!
Anytime, glad to help! Thanks for brunch & bloody marys [thumbsup]
Randy's now conveniently located near I-35 West, between 114 & 183. Same cell phone number- PM me if anyone needs it [moto]
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on March 29, 2010, 06:28:24 AM
Randy's now conveniently located near I-35 West, between 114 & 183. Same cell phone number- PM me if anyone needs it [moto]
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I've said it before: If you don't want to run a plugged tire GIVE IT TO ME.
I'll wear it out! [moto]
Sure thing. I'll retrieve from Randy. Or, if you live out that way, you could stop by his place and grab it yourself. I'll picking my ST up this weekend - but only if it rains like The Deluge. [laugh]
Quote from: RichD on March 29, 2010, 10:37:14 AM
I've said it before: If you don't want to run a plugged tire GIVE IT TO ME.
I'll wear it out! [moto]
Sent you an email... have tire, let's arrange a pick up. Thanks.
George
How's the new tire?
New tire is GOOD! Looks good, rides good... still a little slippery in the wet, but who isn't?
I think it needs a few more miles and a little scuffing, but I like it. And it's not flat yet. [moto]