lol
Motorcycle Lowsides in Front of CHP on Mulholland (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oBTGgT_V5F8#normal)
hopefully that was not our Gus
Looks to me like he lowsided because he was startled by the cop and grabbed some front brake.
yep
This is why, when riding briskly in the twisties and I happen upon a hiding patrol car, I act like I am doing nothing wrong.
What could the cop have done in that scenario anyway? Certainly not give chase and expect to catch him, and I doubt they could catch the plate number. I'm not advocating running from cops, just seems like a pointless heavy-handed cop presence designed to result in exactly this.
At the same time it can be argued that public roads are not for the purpose of spirited riding, but I'd be preaching to the choir . . . plus I was there 2 weeks ago. [moto]
I was waiting for the guy on the bicycle to come though.
Quote from: NoisyDante on March 29, 2010, 01:13:23 PM
What could the cop have done in that scenario anyway? Certainly not give chase and expect to catch him, and I doubt they could catch the plate number. I'm not advocating running from cops, just seems like a pointless heavy-handed cop presence designed to result in exactly this.
I somehow doubt it was the intent.
Also we have a large LEO presence in the local twisties on the weekends, probably necessitated by the number of crashes.
Quote from: MrIncredible on March 29, 2010, 01:36:37 PM
I somehow doubt it was the intent.
Also we have a large LEO presence in the local twisties on the weekends, probably necessitated by the number of crashes.
+1 here in AZ. Sometimes they are pulling people over, sometimes they are doing traffic control for people that have wrecked. (cars and bikes)
before this thread heads in the wrong direction, let's keep it about the rider's actions.
Def freaked and grabbed a whole bunch of front brakes. My philosophy, a ticket is usually cheaper than Ducati parts, just stay smooth and steady on the gas and then pretend nothing ever happened [moto] ....until the lights turn on and then just be nice as possible. ;)
Sue the cop for illegal parking ;D ...... he shouldn't park his vehicle on a double lined road shoulder ......... 8)
for all we know the LEO might have just been asking if the person was ok, the rider didn't appear to be speading and merely lost the front end.
high lean angles do not mean that the person is breaking any laws at all. it just means they are leaning a lot in the turns.
it seems the rider just leaned the bike too far over and lost the front end that is all, i wouldnt' say that the person is speeding. it looked like they were going 30 mph tops on a 25mph road.
right before the crash you can see him try to stand it up and them wham. too much brake and not enough traction, unfortunately.
Having a friend who went head-on with someone in that same stretch of road.. well.. /shrug if he was going fast enough to feel like he needed to brake like that, maybe he should slow down.
there's a certain panic mode that happens when you see red and blue lights on or off.
looks like he did that.
personally, and it's not an insult to the police, i think police should try to think about the consequences of startling someone in a corner when picking a spot to watch.
even while driving a car, the tendency to twitch the wheel a bit or touch the brake in a corner can have bad consequences.
The rider panicked and braked (you can momentarily see the bike standing up) instead of following through the turn. If they're going to "get" you, they will.
We get these lovely helicopters popping out of nowhere on the mountain runs in my neck of the woods. That is scary, really scary.
Must have been scary for the rider seeing a Patrol vehicle "head on" as he took the bend.
Quote from: IV on March 29, 2010, 11:05:52 PM
Anyone thinks there's something strange about that video?
Yeah, I feel the same way. Almost like it was staged.
Quote from: John1454 on March 30, 2010, 07:39:19 AM
Yeah, I feel the same way. Almost like it was staged.
I think the cop noticed his buddy with the video camera and put 2+2 together. Thats why he happened to be parked there. I mean if you're a cop and notice someone filming a twist road what else can you expect? Smart police work in my opinion. [thumbsup]
Mods let me know if this crosses the line
We have a Leo out here in the Texas hill country that rides a Hardley. He is very well known. I have had the pleasure of doing business with him on two separate occasions. On the second business transaction one of the riders in my group tried to run and blew through a guardrail at low triple digit speeds after lowsiding. He lost an arm and was comatose for a month or so. I had the pleasure of helping keep this guy alive while the helicopter came. I was not allowed to leave until several hours later after a stern talking to and a speeding ticket. The Leo explained to me that scraping riders off the ground is a weekly occurrence for him and he's tired of it. I left with the understanding that he is not out there just to write tickets but to slow us down and make sure we can ride another day.
Maybe this guy in the video is also sick and tired of cleaning up messes. I don't agree with where the Leo was parked but I imagine he also stays pretty busy cleaning riders off the road and is just doing his part.
I see this stupid shit every weekend.
I'm probably going to volunteer at the local fire company, though my concern is scraping my friends off the road. I'm not exceptionally skilled in any form, but I do ride within my limits, something 99% of the riders I see don't do.
second polite reminder.
[beer]
you skinny pregnant doges gotta lean further anyways to make it turn.
another pro of being a large mammal.
You guys have turned this thread into a another "blame someone else because I'm a dumbass" thread. Where the cop is parked has nothing to do with anything. Unless you are him you have no idea why he parked there. Could have been to talk on his cell phone, write notes on a ticket, eat an apple, or whatever. We don't park somewhere hoping to make someone crash. That's the stupidest thing I have heard in a long time.
The moto rider sucks, that's it. Nothing else to it.
Quote from: hbliam on March 30, 2010, 11:00:17 AM
You guys have turned this thread into a another "blame someone else because I'm a dumbass" thread. Where the cop is parked has nothing to do with anything. Unless you are him you have no idea why he parked there. Could have been to talk on his cell phone, write notes on a ticket, eat an apple, or whatever. We don't park somewhere hoping to make someone crash. That's the stupidest thing I have heard in a long time.
The moto rider sucks, that's it. Nothing else to it.
that i agree on. but tell me.. why does traffic slow when there is an accident on the side of the road. or when a police has a radar set up? not because anyone is breaking the law.. it's the distraction.
I hate the concept of speed traps, because I dislike the idea of cops waiting for people to commit an offense (then bust them), rather than preventing them from doing so in the first place (imagine if they treated murder the same way)
But ultimately it's the responsibilty of the rider to ride at speeds which allow him to handle any unforseen hazards while maintaining control of his bike. He failed to do so.....it could have been anything on the other side of that bend......
No LEO talk here - like others have mentioned - a handful of front break while leaned over will do that! The video clearly shows that....
And since LEO talk is inevitable....
(http://img133.imageshack.us/img133/6493/inbeforethelock3zd.jpg)
I think this thread has lived its useful life since people can't leave speed traps and other off-topic off-limit subjects out.
And since I am typing, I agree with hbliam, the guy sucked as a rider, and it didn't matter what the parked car was doing or what type of car it was. It could have been any car parked there, and the rider still would have probably got surprised and dumped it.
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