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Title: Damages clear coat....
Post by: White Lion on April 11, 2010, 10:30:49 PM
So, putting on some bling today, and remove the dirty looking tank guard sticker. Oh, it was hiding some damage  :'(

It Doesn't look like crash damage, looks more like an error in the clear coat process from new. The whole tank is perfect except for a piece as big as my palm where there is zero clear coat(The white stripe sticker started peeling off with the tank guard sticker)

It doesn't look like there are any cracks underneath the sticker, just a straight out error in manufacturing. I had to put a spare tank guard sticker over it as it looked like shit!

Has anyone come across this on a bike?
Title: Re: Damages clear coat....
Post by: DUCMONROB on April 11, 2010, 10:55:24 PM
Yes mate I have heard of this before where a bloke was selling his S4R and he told me he tried to remove the tanks protector and the clear coat pulled away from the white stripe.

Word of advice. Heat up the protector with a hair dyier to soften the glue before you try to remove.

Robs 2 cents [popcorn]
Title: Re: Damages clear coat....
Post by: White Lion on April 11, 2010, 10:58:18 PM
Hmm, I think that's what has happened. I've had a look at the sticker i removed, and there is no clear coat on it.

I think it has happened when the first owner had it, not the second one(The guy i purchased it off)

Information was obviously not passed on  [roll]
Title: Re: Damages clear coat....
Post by: loony888 on April 11, 2010, 11:39:07 PM
yep, happened on my S4R, the stripe is painted, but the pinstripe and it's gap is a decal. mine was going a little yellow anyway and was a good excuse for a custom respray [thumbsup]

paul.
Title: Re: Damages clear coat....
Post by: Andy55 on April 11, 2010, 11:48:14 PM
Unfortunately I have done this to my tank aswell , I was toying around with tape on the sides of the tank to check out a few ideas. When I peeled the tape off up through the knee cutouts it peeled the clearcoat off like it was cling wrap , it didnt actually break the clear coat or pull a piece out , it just stretched it and pulled it away from the silver underneath. I had a mark on the side of the tank that has been bugging me anyway so its respray time for me.
Title: Re: Damages clear coat....
Post by: FIFO on April 12, 2010, 12:11:56 AM
Was just looking through Ebay this arvo.
Saw this S2R tank for sale
only problem clear coat coming of in a small section  :'(
Appears to be a common problem :(

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ducati-Monster-Fuel-Tank-S2R_W0QQitemZ120555847110QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories?hash=item1c11b03dc6 (http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Ducati-Monster-Fuel-Tank-S2R_W0QQitemZ120555847110QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAU_Motorcycle_Parts_Accessories?hash=item1c11b03dc6)

Title: Re: Damages clear coat....
Post by: White Lion on April 12, 2010, 12:22:59 AM
I have to make a correction, upon peeling off the sticker today I did take some clear coat off but not the entire thing. Looks like there was already some damage and i have just made it worse....  [bang]

For now the new sticker is covering it, but looks like I will be getting a tank spray in the near future.....

Thanks for the quick reply guys, and i'm a little annoyed at the frequency that this appears to happen. Must almost be often enough for Ducati to actually fork the bill for it.....
Title: Re: Damages clear coat....
Post by: Spider on April 12, 2010, 12:41:50 AM
Quote from: DUCMONROB on April 11, 2010, 10:55:24 PM
Yes mate I have heard of this before where a bloke was selling his S4R and he told me he tried to remove the tanks protector and the clear coat pulled away from the white stripe.

Word of advice. Heat up the protector with a hair dyier to soften the glue before you try to remove.

Robs 2 cents [popcorn]

phark, you're 2c is worth a lot more than that, that is some damn-fine problem solving right there! good work.

[bow_down]
Title: Re: Damages clear coat....
Post by: DUCMONROB on April 12, 2010, 12:58:00 AM
Quote from: Spider on April 12, 2010, 12:41:50 AM
phark, you're 2c is worth a lot more than that, that is some damn-fine problem solving right there! good work.

[bow_down]

No worries! [thumbsup]

Always willing to help. ;D
Title: Re: Damages clear coat....
Post by: Spider on April 12, 2010, 01:00:34 AM
Quote from: DUCMONROB on April 12, 2010, 12:58:00 AM
No worries! [thumbsup]

Always willing to help. ;D

good to hear, can you pop on over and change the belts please!

see you Saturday!

;D
Title: Re: Damages clear coat....
Post by: DUCMONROB on April 12, 2010, 01:02:22 AM
Quote from: Spider on April 12, 2010, 01:00:34 AM
good to hear, can you pop on over and change the belts please!

see you Saturday!

;D

Can I have some bus money?? [laugh]
Title: Re: Damages clear coat....
Post by: signora monster on April 12, 2010, 01:20:35 AM
So Rob, it sounds like you are more than just a pretty face. ;D It was nice meeting you on Sunday.
Your advice here is pretty damn good. My brother is a panel beater and he uses that Blow Dryer trick to remove stickers.
I used this method on an old bike and from personal experience it works a treat!  [thumbsup]
Kaz.
Title: Re: Damages clear coat....
Post by: DUCMONROB on April 12, 2010, 01:29:57 AM
Quote from: signora monster on April 12, 2010, 01:20:35 AM
So Rob, it sounds like you are more than just a pretty face. ;D It was nice meeting you on Sunday.
Your advice here is pretty damn good. My brother is a panel beater and he uses that Blow Dryer trick to remove stickers.
I used this method on an old bike and from personal experience it works a treat!  [thumbsup]
Kaz.

Ohhhh shucks some one else is making me blush! :-[

Panel beaters run in our family too! [thumbsup]

It was great to meet you & Nick too! [moto]


Rob
Title: Re: Damages clear coat....
Post by: Nickati on April 12, 2010, 01:34:16 AM
Will you two get a room  ;D
Title: Re: Damages clear coat....
Post by: signora monster on April 12, 2010, 01:39:46 AM
Quote from: Nickati on April 12, 2010, 01:34:16 AM
Will you two get a room  ;D

[roll] [roll] [roll]
Title: Re: Damages clear coat....
Post by: macca on April 12, 2010, 01:40:22 AM
Quote from: Andy55 on April 11, 2010, 11:48:14 PM
Unfortunately I have done this to my tank as well , I was toying around with tape on the sides of the tank to check out a few ideas. When I peeled the tape off up through the knee cutouts it peeled the clearcoat off like it was cling wrap , it didn't actually break the clear coat or pull a piece out , it just stretched it and pulled it away from the silver underneath. I had a mark on the side of the tank that has been bugging me anyway so its respray time for me.                                                                                                
That sounds like the basecoat was allowed to dry to long before the clearcoat was applied. It usually only happens on really big spray jobs but if they are painting a lot in one go and using a heated spraybooth it could happen. It should be covered by manufacturers warranty IMO .
Title: Re: Damages clear coat....
Post by: DUCMONROB on April 12, 2010, 12:58:28 PM
Quote from: macca on April 12, 2010, 01:40:22 AM
                                                                                                                                            That sounds like the basecoat was allowed to dry to long before the clearcoat was applied. It usually only happens on really big spray jobs but if they are painting a lot in one go and using a heated spraybooth it could happen. It should be covered by manufacturers warranty IMO .

+1

You know the Italians. Base coat painted Friday and clear coat painted Monday!

Rule of thumb is complete the whole paint job within 24 hours.


In a few weeks I will be attempting the same thing when I paint my GPZ900.

Rob [bacon]