So... the forecast is once again shat for tomorrow. Rain and more rain. They even said it was a very winter like storm brewing out on the coast. This is gonna make it hard for me to convince people to come out and help me. :(
Mo - Rain tires seem like over kill for a track day. Plus they could just cancel the bloody thing on me when I get there. What did they run you? I should probably get myself a second set of wheels with tires to have things ready to swap out when I do change my tires.
It costs too much to do a track day and get rained out. Where the make the beast with two backs has our spring gone? Seems like we jumped back a few months in weather quality. Oh well.
On a side note... congrats on a fun race Mo... it was a party environment all day... very relaxed. Nice job to all those racers who kept it on two wheels. Although, it musta been disappointing for the audience to not see any wrecks. ;D
Hey thanks for volunteering for OMRRA, thats bad ass Ryan!
Yesterday was crazy fun, mini-endurance race, Brian riding my SV and riding it faster then me! (WTF!), taking 4th in our class, and I think 13th overall was awesome!
Regarding riding in the rain (on the track), I would get a second set of rims and put rain tires on them. Rains are more expensive then DOTs, but last longer if only used in the wet. You can use a single set of rains all season as long as you dont ride them on dry pavement. You should be able to pick up a good set of rims with rotors for about $300. Ive seen them cheaper and more, but $300 seems reasonable.
Im going to jack your thread for a second and thank Jon Fey, he was my pit guy yesterday and helped me a ton! Thanks man, I owe ya!
Thanks again Ryan, Jon, and everyone else who was out there helping yesterday!
Maurice
Seeing how much fun you all had in the rain... I think I may skip it tomorrow. I don't want to break the bike, myself, or the bank in the rain. It isn't worth the money or the time off to do so. Will prep the bike and be ready for July. I can ride in the rain when I pick me up some cool rain tires and a second set of wheels to swap back and forth. As for now... I am content to watch the slip and slide from my television. Holy making the beast with two backs!! FARK! I hate this stinking rain.
I did half the day yesterday. Got out there at about 11:45. By the first session after lunch the track was 90% dry.
I know... I know... I was a sally.
How much of a pain in the ass is riding a race bike, with no pit support. Slick tires and no kickstand make for a pregnant dog of a day when it's wet out. My brother cancelled on helping me out at the last minute. I was thinking of the pain it would be to try and balance the bike and find the rear stand... and if I went down... trying to pack it all up on my own... then it was raining... and I decided to stay home and play XBOX 360 all day. I was such a wuss. I shoulda taken Julie's 250 out there and whooped it up.
Cut out a piece of your lower race plastics for your kick stand. Bolt it on for track days and take it off for race days [thumbsup]
Quote from: Rotten Randy on June 04, 2008, 04:32:07 PM
Cut out a piece of your lower race plastics for your kick stand. Bolt it on for track days and take it off for race days [thumbsup]
Uh...yeah... doesn't everyone do that?
Quote from: desmosome on June 04, 2008, 05:07:25 PM
Uh...yeah... doesn't everyone do that?
Apparently not. Just trying to help a brotha out yall :-*
Mo.... I got a new throttle and kill switch thingy from an sv1000... It looks like it will fit my SV... any idea how hard this crap is to put on the bike? I am thinking of trying to install in the next few days. I also have an extra 1/4 turn throttle iffin you want one.
You get a kick stand?
Also found this on another forum:
T4 lines...
(http://www.sportbikes.ws/attachment.php?attachmentid=44130&d=1214499393)
I don't need a stinking kick stand. I got you dirty bastards to hold my bike up when I come into the pits. [thumbsup]
I want to have booze and bench race this weekend, hell tonight... anyone? [drink]
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Dude... come over for some beer and we can work on my bike... I have a full bar... we can shoot some pool too.
I was thinking of going on a shorter bicycle ride....
I want more of this.... makes me look faster than Mo
(http://home.comcast.net/~ryandalling/trackday.jpg)
Do you have to replace the entire wiring harness, or does the new controls "plug" into something?
I may take you up on the 1/4 turn throttle, but I believe its not SS legal, so I dont know if I would use it.
Yo, Darling, you going to be out there Tuesday?
I'm there Monday as well with NESBA.
Yes I will be there on Tuesday. The kill switch / starter controls look to be plug and play... hope they both have the same connectors.... :-\
Yeah... they are plug and play... but you have to take off the radiator... the gas tank... and many other kibbles and bits... I said make the beast with two backs it... and changed the oil and the oil filter... it was 104 degrees in my garage.... and I didn't want to take all that crap off and then not put it back together in time for tomorrow. Guess it will have to wait for another day. Oh well. I am ready to moto. Where you guys pitting? I can set up my tent next door? [moto]
I think we are going to be on the front row or something. I plan on being there around 6:50 or so.
I had to run power from the friggin bathroom today, I got power but it was a pain in the ass.
See you in the morning... ;D
C group was uber crowded and uber slow. It wasn't till the afternoon that I got my knee back down in 9 and started cruising again. Then I had my first off track experience. I hit 7 way to fast and blew out of 8 at probably 85.... I thought to myself... try to dive bomb into 9... or take the grass knowing I am going into it... I decided to just hit the grass and hope for the best. I launched into the grass... probably at 70 or so... trail braked to slow me down.... front brake slid the front end out every time I would tap it... it was like trying to control a river raft while paddling with your hands... it was crazy... I ended up stopping about 5 feet from the tires... came around to point and got back out there.... my heart was pounding... but I had to get back out there and retake the corners again to get over that feeling.... I probably did much better the rest of the sessions because of it. I was trying to pick up too much speed due to the lack of speed in the morning sessions. All in all... it was a great day. Brought the family out as a pit crew. Everyone had a good time.
nice job yesterday Ryan, and great save.
BTW - Trail braking is used with late braking into a corner where you hold a little pressure on the front wheel to the apex and transition to throttle. I think in your case you meant using the back brake. :)
Did you tell me you were doing the 21st?
21st? I am still trying to swing a Southern California vacation around that time. Thinking of doing the last Race School with Cascade... on like the 31st ... not sure where the funds will be at that point though.
Quick question.... is riding on the grass always that dicey? I felt like the bike slid out from under my like 10 times... and all I could think of was how fast that tire barrier was coming at me... I have no idea how I saved it... but I do know that a hand full of front brake would have dumped me. I seemed to recall a lot of thinking... and knowing that I would rather slide the bike than hit the tires... cause ramming the tires would cost more than a right side of rear sets....
running into the grass with an impeding barrier is very dicey. :)
You can ever so slightly get your bike slowed down and turned to avoid the tire walls, Ive ran off there and got my bike back on the exit ok, but its pretty scary stuff.
Usually you can add small turning inputs with rear brake to change the bikes direction and slow down. When in the grass everything is about small inputs, if you grab a handful of front brake, you will go down, if you hammer the rear, you will probably slide out, etc. :)
You did the right thing as you didnt fall down. Good job!
I remember now you saying you wanted to go to California. CTT school will be fun. :)
Oh and before I go, good job on your first place yesterday and cash prize money!!
Winning money is always awesome!! Woo hoo!! For those of you who were not present... I anchored a Motorcycle, bicycle, and run triathlon... I think they called it a motathlon.... anyhow... my run was fast enough to beat Brian Pinkstaff.... for the win... (and the extra $100 put in if anybody beat the pinkstaffs...) However, Darren, hopped the barrier and cheated on the run... so most of the crowd thought he won.... that stinker... he did admit to it as soon as he got the checker though.... anyhow.... having just eaten lunch... and then running out on the hot track ... well... it was not fun trying to get back into my leathers after all that. But the money helped. ;D
I don't know how you could do that....(good job btw!!) [clap]
My legs are so sore today, both my hamstrings and quads.
I felt like one of the slowest bicycle commuters on the ride to work today.
Perhaps I should start weight training again (squats).
Any suggestions?
Stairs. There are a couple places over by PSU... where there is like 10 flights of stairs straight up the side of a mountain... and then you can walk/jog the road back around to the bottom and can repeat all the back up.
Stairs! [bang]
I didn't say it would be fun or easy. Next time they do that motathlon... Mo motors, you cycle, and I run. We could easily trounce them all !!!
Mo, You, & Me...
Then we are in contention for the win!
I can take a lunch break on the 21st.... ;D
Are they running that event then as well?
I don't think so. Although, they talked about running the chicane for the first half of the 21st.
As an added... they took a lot of heat for running that... after the shortened session with the lost power... and the long lunch... people were complaining about running that event instead of starting sessions again.
It was kind of a shortened day with the power loss and the long lunch/event, but I didnt do the last session that I had, so I was good either way.
Jon, we didnt get to chat much, I was semi distracted with everything happening in the pits, and just wasn't there mentally. How was your day?
Mo-
If felt good.
I got more of my confidence back, despite being one of OR the slowest guy in A group.
On the other hand I wasn't held up by anyone in the corners. ;D
Except for that 39 guy who pulled a close pass on me on the outside of T3. ;)
Didn't get any good one on on instruction, as I had hoped, but the cyszersizes where good.
My main goal was to move my braking points up and carry more speed into 1/2.
Which I did but know i can go deeper and faster, just a matter of getting the balls to do it.
There is plenty of room to improve, but I feel more confident and have an idea of what needs to be done.
The whole use your engine breaking less and break more makes sense (in that it will keep you more consistent) but was difficult to execute, as I am trenched in my old ways.
Overall a fun day despite the 20 min sessions and being done at 3:30
Still more to learn...I look forward to learning more. [thumbsup]