ha! this is turning into the old 'model comparison' thread on TOB....really good fun to pull out the old catalogs and log the data:
2004 2005 2006 2007 2008 2009 2010
m620 dark X X
m620 X X X
695 X X
696 X X X
796 X
m800 X
S2r800 dark X X
S2r800 X X X
m1000s X X
S2r1000 X X X
1100 X X
1100s X X
S4r X X X
S4r t X X
S4r s X X X
stats:
seat height (") Fuel Dry Weight (p / kg) HP Torque (kgm / nm)
600: 30.3 4.2 / 16 383 / 174 51 5.1 / 50
620 (02-04): 30.3 3.9 / 15 390 / 177 60 5.4 / 53.3
620 (05-06): 30.3 3.6 / 14 370 / 168 63 5.7
695: 30.3 3.6 / 14 370 / 168 73 6.2
696: 30.3 3.8 / 15 355 / 161 80 7
796: 31.5 3.8 / 15 369 / 167 87 8 / 58
750 30.3 3.9 / 15 394 / 179 64 6.3 / 62
m800 30.3 3.9 / 15 394 / 179 73 7 / 69
S2r800 31.5 3.6 / 14 381 / 173 77 7.4
m900
m900sie 31.5 3.9 / 15 416 / 189 78 7.4 / 73
m1000 31.5 3.9 / 15 416 / 189 94 9.6 / 84
S2r1000 31.5 3.6 / 14 392 / 178 96 9.6 / 84
1100 / s 31.9 3.8 / 15 373 / 169 95 10.5
s4 31.6 4.4 / 16.5 423 / 193 101 9.3 / 92
s4 Fogarty 31.6 4.4 / 16.5 414 / 189 110 ?
s4r 31.5 3.9 / 15 425 / 193 113 10.1 / 95.5
s4r t / s 31.5 3.6 / 13.5 390 / 177 130 10.6 /
^note: in 2004 Ducati started using different measuring which is why the old sheet and the new don't marry well, dry weight was altered and HP was at the crankcase NOT the back wheel, torque was also altered that year
^note: bought a year 2000 catalog and turns out the 900 was IE that year as well. Would love a 2003 catalog!
Man, my brain hurts after reading all that.
Need a [coffee]
Ahhhh but which is the most fun to ride??
Quote from: Spider on April 20, 2010, 11:36:31 AM
TOB....really good fun to pull out the old catalog and log the data;
Hey Dude you should really get out more LOL [laugh] [laugh]
oooooh, my M900 ain't in the top bit with the years.... c'mon Spider, another few hours at the computer and you should be able to go back to 1998 at least! ;)
Nice work Spider! [thumbsup]
I'm confused. How'd they get 17 more HP out of 1 cc when they went from the 695 to the 696?
From memory, they're actually same displacement, but a completely new engine design, inc heads and fueling system. the model numbers are always displacement...
Quote from: suzyj on April 21, 2010, 12:37:08 AM
I'm confused. How'd they get 17 more HP out of 1 cc when they went from the 695 to the 696?
Probably a typo. The M695 should be 73HP
The M695 engine was the highest output Vs capacity aircooled 2V ducati motor until the 696 came out.
696 had better designed heads - always happens in the motoring industry - get more HP by better designed heads.
Quote from: Six95 on April 21, 2010, 01:46:45 AM
Probably a typo. The M695 should be 73HP
The M695 engine was the highest output Vs capacity aircooled 2V ducati motor until the 696 came out.
oh, and the last of the 620's (injected models) were actually 63HP.
Quote from: goldFiSh on April 21, 2010, 01:43:33 AM
From memory, they're actually same displacement, but a completely new engine design, inc heads and fueling system. the model numbers are always displacement...
Um..... ??? So since the model number always reflects the displacement, and since the 696 and 695 both have the same displacement..... is the 695 696cc's or is the 696 695cc's or vice versa? Or are they both 696cc's?? Or.... are they both 695cc's??? Hmm??? ;D
I think you mean that the model numbers are always the displacement.... except when they're not. The 696's extra 1cc was marketing-speak I do believe. In fact the bore x stroke (and therefore the capacity) are identical. But you're right about the new head design and the switch to siemens fuelling.
Quote from: Six95 on April 21, 2010, 01:50:16 AM
oh, and the last of the 620's (injected models) were actually 63HP.
done, thanks, didn't know [thumbsup]
Quote from: Six95 on April 21, 2010, 01:46:45 AM
Probably a typo. The M695 should be 73HP
The M695 engine was the highest output Vs capacity aircooled 2V ducati motor until the 696 came out.
Yah. My manual quotes power as 52 KW (71 HP).
Sooo how many xtra ponies with a Termi kit?
Is it an average or does it depend on the model?
Dez,
PM me your email address.
From what I've seen that it's all different for the model range
I'll send you a graph of a stock vs Termi Kit M695. (termis, air filter, open airbox and ECU).
Top end its only a dismal 1hp, however between 4500-7500rpm there is a very sexy bulge
Quote from: Six95 on April 21, 2010, 01:46:45 AM
Probably a typo. The M695 should be 73HP
The M695 engine was the highest output Vs capacity aircooled 2V ducati motor until the 696 came out.
fixed! now reads right.
any one got a Foggy edition s4 catalog with numbers?
A sneek peek at the new monster colour options!
(http://hellforleathermagazine.com/images/Logomania_MonsterART.jpg)
So will this be in the exam?
I like the first one
I like the second one [thumbsup]
+1 for the first one,
(the second one looks good on the black frame but not on red and i have a red frame)
I'm quite liking the standard black one at the moment with its red frame and logo.