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Title: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: professor_pro on June 02, 2008, 03:58:57 PM
For others who've drooled over the lovely CRG bar end mirrors, but had trouble parting with the $130 ++ for the set, there is an outstanding deal to be had on eBay. At around $40 for the pair including shipping, these are a very high quality knock off that appear nearly identical to the real deal. I've had them on my 620 for a couple of months & am about to get another set for my new S4RS. These have slightly tinted glass & do not vibrate at all on my 620. Finally! a clear view of what's behind me. I haven't tried it, but I'd venture a guess these would also work with the lane splitting link from CRG. (Not to knock CRG as they make fantastic products, it's just the mirrors are a little $teep!)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Motorcycle-Parts-Accessories__Bar-End-Mirrors-3-Ducati-Triumph-Buell-KTM-Suzuki-BMW_W0QQitemZ310054514538QQadnZMotorcycleQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadiZ2863QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item310054514538&

I learned of these mirrors a couple months back on the old board, but thought I'd bring the knowledge to the forefront!

Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: FortyTwo on June 02, 2008, 04:40:42 PM
How do you have them mounted?  With the adapter, or on the bar itself?  Thanks!
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: professor_pro on June 02, 2008, 07:21:48 PM
Quote from: FortyTwo on June 02, 2008, 04:40:42 PM
How do you have them mounted?  With the adapter, or on the bar itself?  Thanks!

It comes with the adapter that goes into the bar. That's how I've got it setup because it didn't require moving any controls. The adapter part itself they come with is not the nicest, but it does the job ok. I've seen nicer billet ones out there...
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: booger on June 02, 2008, 08:10:39 PM
Nice. I saw some on eBay once that were Lanesplitter copies as well, for much less money. Good to see less-expensive alternatives. I wonder if the quality is really the same though. I have the CRG levers and the Lanesplitters, both of which have alternatives that cost nearly half as much. In Hindsight [laugh] I wonder if I shouldn't have bought the clones and saved some money.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: FortyTwo on June 02, 2008, 08:33:17 PM
Quote from: professor_pro on June 02, 2008, 07:21:48 PM
It comes with the adapter that goes into the bar. That's how I've got it setup because it didn't require moving any controls. The adapter part itself they come with is not the nicest, but it does the job ok. I've seen nicer billet ones out there...

Thanks, I just got a similar set in, and the adapters dont fit into the bar end...  No problems with yours, I guess?
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: mdriver on June 02, 2008, 09:53:45 PM
I have a pair of both the CRGs and the eBay knockoffs. Although they look identical from a few feet away there are several slight differences in their manufacture and build quality.

Being a stickler for good engineering and build quality I have studied both of them closely.
Here is a breakdown on the differences between them (followed by my thoughts in parentheses)

The CRGs 

Are cut from billet aluminum on a CNC machine.
( The machined parts are not finished after being machined so the pattern the bit travels in as it cuts the aluminum can still be seen on the mirror housing)
When you get them in black they are anodized.
( The black anodizing turns purple after about a year)
The mirror glass is mounted with an itty bitty lip machined into the housing and a tiny screw.
( Myself and several other people from TOB have had the mirror glass fall out.)
The mounting bracket that goes inside the bar uses a multiple plate wedge that puts even pressure on the inside of the bar.
(It's a little overly complex but works really well)


The eBay knockoff

Made from cast aluminum.
(Casting quality is very good. But the screw holes aren't cleaned after being taped, which can muck up the threads when the screws are installed)
When purchased in black they are powder coated.
(not as nice as anodizing but it doesn't fade)
The mirror glass is ground around the edge after its made.
(CRGs glass is not ground so this is a nice touch considering their low cost)
The mirror glass is secured by two plastic inserts with a little lip on them and a very similar tiny screw.
(The plastic lip inserts don't look as nice but function better then the CRGs the tiny screw also comes with a larger plastic washer)
The mounting bracket that fits inside the bar is a cone wedge that works with the same principle as most concrete anchors do.
( The wedge only grips a very tiny portion of the bar so it doesn't work as well as the CRGs design)


Sorry if this is hard to read but I don't feel like reformatting it.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: SeaS2R on June 02, 2008, 10:10:52 PM
I have these mirrors.  The previous poster was exactly right, they're cast aluminum (where the CRG are billet).  Which means if you over torque the mounting clamp it will break.  Ask me how I know!  Anyway, they function well and the price is right but if you get them then pay attention when you're putting them on.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: Capo on June 03, 2008, 04:57:37 AM
I have the CRG lane splits, broke the glass in one, bought a pair of knock offs and used them for spare parts, everything fits OK.
The knock offs have a black delrin ball whereas the CRG's are white.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: Monstermash on June 03, 2008, 06:01:20 AM
I almost bought a set of these myself but the seller is a complete moron. I asked him what the I.D. of the bars that they will fit and he had no idea what I was talking about.

I then followed up explaining to him I was looking for the measurement of the diameter of the inside of the bar they will fit or the diameter of the insert that is on the mirror. He still had no clue and wouldn't/couldn't measure it for me so I just found an alternative.

It amazes me that this guy doesn't have a bunch of bad feedback. How can you jsut list something for sale, not really have a clue what it fits, make a statement that it fits Ducati, Triumph etc and get away with not having a bunch of unhappy customers because the things don't fit?
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: ducatiz on June 03, 2008, 06:09:22 AM
THe finish on the cheap ones will flake in a few places.  Get some black nail polish and touch it up.

I just wish the cheap ones folded.  That would make life much easier.  bar mirrors are great except when you nee the side space cause you have 10 bikes in your garage (yeah yeah, i know, waaah)
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: bdfinally on June 04, 2008, 09:55:02 AM
I bought some of those (silver) from a different guy on ebay and paid less than that. Masked off everything except the arm and rattle canned flat black. The allen heads started rusting within two weeks, but found some stainless replacements for all of $7 that solved that problem. So far they work great, but have heard 2nd hand that they'll start bad vibing in a few months. All in all a good purchase I think. Shipping was uber quick.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/BAR-END-MIRRORS-DUCATI-MONSTER-600-620-695-750-800-S2R_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35580QQihZ006QQitemZ160246624843QQrdZ1QQsspagenameZWDVW
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: zc911 on June 05, 2008, 07:12:09 PM
what ones are need for an 07 S4Rs ?
i thought the bars are 1inch no?
would you not need ones like this that come with a 1inch bar adapter?

My 620 had 7/8s bars.  i don't have my S4Rs yet, but i want to orde rup some mirrors so i can get those mickey mouse things off right away lol

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bar-End-Mirrors-Ducati-Aprilia-Buell-Triumph-KTM-BMW_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1742Q2em153Q2el1262QQcategoryZ35564QQihZ021QQitemZ310055687069QQtcZphoto
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: mdriver on June 05, 2008, 07:31:32 PM
Quote from: zc911 on June 05, 2008, 07:12:09 PM
what ones are need for an 07 S4Rs ?
i thought the bars are 1inch no?


AFIK S4 bars are 1.25" only under the mounting bracket in the center. They taper off to a smaller diameter towards the controls. What size they taper off to I don't know.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: hbliam on June 06, 2008, 12:13:44 AM
Quote from: professor_pro on June 02, 2008, 03:58:57 PM
For others who've drooled over the lovely CRG bar end mirrors, but had trouble parting with the $130 ++ for the set, there is an outstanding deal to be had on eBay. At around $40 for the pair including shipping, these are a very high quality knock off that appear nearly identical to the real deal. I've had them on my 620 for a couple of months & am about to get another set for my new S4RS. These have slightly tinted glass & do not vibrate at all on my 620. Finally! a clear view of what's behind me. I haven't tried it, but I'd venture a guess these would also work with the lane splitting link from CRG. (Not to knock CRG as they make fantastic products, it's just the mirrors are a little $teep!)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/_Motorcycle-Parts-Accessories__Bar-End-Mirrors-3-Ducati-Triumph-Buell-KTM-Suzuki-BMW_W0QQitemZ310054514538QQadnZMotorcycleQ20PartsQ20Q26Q20AccessoriesQQadiZ2863QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item310054514538&

I learned of these mirrors a couple months back on the old board, but thought I'd bring the knowledge to the forefront!

It's a derby: http://ducatimonsterworldwide.org/index.php?topic=3722.msg55207#msg55207


Quote from: ducatizzzz on June 03, 2008, 06:09:22 AM
THe finish on the cheap ones will flake in a few places.  Get some black nail polish and touch it up.

I just wish the cheap ones folded.  That would make life much easier.  bar mirrors are great except when you nee the side space cause you have 10 bikes in your garage (yeah yeah, i know, waaah)

If you read my link you'll notice that I purchased the CRG lane split arms and swapped them out...thus you can have the cheaper mirrors AND the fold feature.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: zc911 on June 06, 2008, 06:57:27 AM
Quote from: mdriver on June 05, 2008, 07:31:32 PM
AFIK S4 bars are 1.25" only under the mounting bracket in the center. They taper off to a smaller diameter towards the controls. What size they taper off to I don't know.

dang anyone know ?
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: ducatiz on June 06, 2008, 07:45:48 AM
Quote from: zc911 on June 06, 2008, 06:57:27 AM
dang anyone know ?

there are only two typical sizes for the ID of bars.  i believe the smaller one is 12mm and the larger is 20mm
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: grinningevildeath on June 06, 2008, 09:54:50 AM
make sure yours are on real tight i lost one on 105 freeway.  riding with one mirror blows.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: thejsnide on June 19, 2008, 07:42:41 PM
I just got the Rizoma bars in 22mm and the diameter at the bar end is smalled than stock... Do most mirrors come with an adapter that will fit inside these smaller aperture bars, or is that something I have to pay Rizoma another $80 for... There stuff is great quality, but damn expensive.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: roy-nexus-6 on June 19, 2008, 10:59:59 PM
Quote from: Monstermash on June 03, 2008, 06:01:20 AM
I almost bought a set of these myself but the seller is a complete moron. I asked him what the I.D. of the bars that they will fit and he had no idea what I was talking about.

I then followed up explaining to him I was looking for the measurement of the diameter of the inside of the bar they will fit or the diameter of the insert that is on the mirror. He still had no clue and wouldn't/couldn't measure it for me so I just found an alternative.

It amazes me that this guy doesn't have a bunch of bad feedback. How can you jsut list something for sale, not really have a clue what it fits, make a statement that it fits Ducati, Triumph etc and get away with not having a bunch of unhappy customers because the things don't fit?

I sent him a note trying to find out the exact same thing. I included a photo - told him the internal diameter of my bar was equal to that of the screw (8mm or 1/3rd inch)...and STILL no reply (that was 3 days ago)

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm47/roy-nexus-6/barendandbolt2.jpg)
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay [BEWARE!]
Post by: professor_pro on June 20, 2008, 11:02:49 AM
I was so happy with my first set, I decided to order another from the same seller. I just got the second pair yesterday, and was surprised to discover what I received is different than the first set. This new design is not as close of a knock off to the CRG. It's similar, but definitely lower quality (no removable mirror part, and the arm and mirror holder are cast as a single piece instead of the bolt on arm).

I've already complained to the seller that what I received are not the style pictured & asked for an exchange or partial refund. I'll report back here as to whether or not that style is still available or not. This 'alternate' style is not nearly as nice as the CRG lookalike shown in the ad!

Roy-nexus I'll try to remember to get you a measurement, as I have an unopened set sitting in my living room at home.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay [BEWARE!]
Post by: NvrSummer on June 20, 2008, 12:34:42 PM
Quote from: professor_pro on June 20, 2008, 11:02:49 AM
I was so happy with my first set, I decided to order another from the same seller. I just got the second pair yesterday, and was surprised to discover what I received is different than the first set. This new design is not as close of a knock off to the CRG. It's similar, but definitely lower quality (no removable mirror part, and the arm and mirror holder are cast as a single piece instead of the bolt on arm).

I've already complained to the seller that what I received are not the style pictured & asked for an exchange or partial refund. I'll report back here as to whether or not that style is still available or not. This 'alternate' style is not nearly as nice as the CRG lookalike shown in the ad!

Roy-nexus I'll try to remember to get you a measurement, as I have an unopened set sitting in my living room at home.

That's strange, I just ordered a set and they were the perfect ones to do the LS swap.  Best part was I found them from a seller for $24!!!  Seller was motorcyclebatteries or something.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: professor_pro on June 20, 2008, 06:46:43 PM
Ok, the in the bar adapter appears to be about 16mm diameter, but is designed to expand to hold itself into the bar.

Sorry for the crummy pix, but here's what the new ones look like, not as nice in my opinion:

(http://i32.tinypic.com/mlnh55.jpg)
(http://i27.tinypic.com/2e5p851.jpg)

Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: NvrSummer on June 23, 2008, 08:49:49 AM
Yeah those are definitely different than what I got.  Search for motobatteries, they had plenty of sets when I got mine.

Also, the expansion screw was assembled wrong when I got mine.  Took a while to figure that one out.  Mine have a three piece expansion, with two slotted sleeves.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: bdfinally on June 23, 2008, 11:22:18 AM
Yeah I got mine from motobatteries also and mine looked nothing like that....and one of the expanders was on the wrong way too.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: NvrSummer on June 23, 2008, 04:03:30 PM
Quote from: bdfinally on June 23, 2008, 11:22:18 AM
Yeah I got mine from motobatteries also and mine looked nothing like that....and one of the expanders was on the wrong way too.

[laugh] 

Some poor employee somewhere is really sticking it to the man with the assembly of these things!

On another note, anyone know where to get cheap replacement glass?  Other than CRG?   [bang]
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: Cucciolo on June 23, 2008, 07:58:03 PM
Anyone tried these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170232080289&_trksid=p2759.l1259

THEY FOLD TOO!! just give me one 1+ review and I'll buy them.. $53.00 with shipping! not bad
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: professor_pro on June 24, 2008, 08:37:26 AM
Quote from: julianista on June 23, 2008, 07:58:03 PM
Anyone tried these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170232080289&_trksid=p2759.l1259

THEY FOLD TOO!! just give me one 1+ review and I'll buy them.. $53.00 with shipping! not bad

That's the ones I actually received when I most recently ordered from 'motohottie'. Not as nice as the CRG knockoffs IMO, though I've yet to mount them and try the folding action. You can definitely find a better price on these. I think mine were around $43 shipped. These ones seem more cheaply made with the sealed in mirror & single cast piece arm & mirror part. The others had a removable arm & mirror glass just like the CRG design.

First hand, I can tell you the glass is glass & overall the quality seems ok. It's just not quite as nice looking to me as the other design. I didn't care for the plastic button on the back & the lack of option to replace the glass.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: ducatiz on June 24, 2008, 01:44:50 PM
Quote from: julianista on June 23, 2008, 07:58:03 PM
Anyone tried these:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=170232080289&_trksid=p2759.l1259

THEY FOLD TOO!! just give me one 1+ review and I'll buy them.. $53.00 with shipping! not bad

they're not designed to fold -- those are the same as the other ones with a ball mount.  you have to leave the top bolt loose to "fold", and i imagine you'll lose them after a while when the screw vibrates out.

proper folding mirrors have a hinge, not a friction ball.  caveat emptor.

notice the CRG's have a ball mount too -- I guess they double fold?
(http://www.pinitson.com/modules/shop/images/CRGMirrorGrayRear1.jpg)
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: Cucciolo on June 24, 2008, 05:41:39 PM
 Look again in the auction and find a video showing the folding in action. They look good..
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: ducatiz on June 24, 2008, 05:43:48 PM
Quote from: julianista on June 24, 2008, 05:41:39 PM
Look again in the auction and find a video showing the folding in action. They look good..

i saw that.

notice how gently he pushes the mirror.

i can do the same thing with my CRG's -- if i loosen the ball clamp bolt.  look at the pics.  you only have two bolts clamping the thing on your bar.  one of them is the ball clamp bolt!  which one you gonna loosen?

but they will fall off.  don't you worry.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: Cucciolo on June 24, 2008, 06:11:38 PM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on June 24, 2008, 05:43:48 PM
i saw that.

notice how gently he pushes the mirror.

i can do the same thing with my CRG's -- if i loosen the ball clamp bolt.  look at the pics.  you only have two bolts clamping the thing on your bar.  one of them is the ball clamp bolt!  which one you gonna loosen?

but they will fall off.  don't you worry.

I'll give them a shot and then let you know!  [thumbsup] I'm tired of mickey on my bike..  [bang]
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: roy-nexus-6 on June 27, 2008, 11:31:39 PM
I don't know if anyone has noticed, but he is selling TWO different kinds of mirrors.

34.95
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bar-End-Mirrors-Ducati-BMW-KTM-Aprilia-Triumph-Buell_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35587QQihZ007QQitemZ170231605477QQtcZphoto

44.95
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bar-End-Mirrors-Suzuki-Honda-Yamaha-Kawasaki-KTM-Buell_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35564QQihZ007QQitemZ170232982075QQtcZphoto

Check out the differences in how the glass is secured, how the arm attaches to the mirror etc. The ones for $44.95 have a nicer overall appearance IMO.

[thumbsup]
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: Cucciolo on June 27, 2008, 11:45:54 PM
Quote from: roy-nexus-6 on June 27, 2008, 11:31:39 PM
I don't know if anyone has noticed, but he is selling TWO different kinds of mirrors.


44.95
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Bar-End-Mirrors-Suzuki-Honda-Yamaha-Kawasaki-KTM-Buell_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQcategoryZ35564QQihZ007QQitemZ170232982075QQtcZphoto

Check out the differences in how the glass is secured, how the arm attaches to the mirror etc. The ones for $44.95 have a nicer overall appearance IMO.
[thumbsup]

I ordered them yesterday! I will post what I think when I get them..  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: roy-nexus-6 on June 28, 2008, 08:01:49 AM
Quote from: julianista on June 27, 2008, 11:45:54 PM
I ordered them yesterday! I will post what I think when I get them..  [thumbsup]

I'll be getting a set myself, I think. I've worked out how to mount them to STOCK S4 handlebars - which are threaded i.e. only have a hole 8mm in diameter.

Mind you, I'm in Oz. I'm not paying $35 for postage - I'll get them shipped to someone in the US, & then to here.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: thejsnide on June 28, 2008, 06:52:19 PM
I just bought a set of the "similar" bar end mirrors from ebayer MOTO-DELUXE...  They arrived two days after purchase... Look awesome, installed easy, "appear" to be well made, and didn't move an inch down the interstate... Couldn't have asked for more with the $44.95 price tag.   +1
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: SkullDaddy on June 28, 2008, 07:12:08 PM
Quote from: thejsnide on June 28, 2008, 06:52:19 PM
I just bought a set of the "similar" bar end mirrors from ebayer MOTO-DELUXE...  They arrived two days after purchase... Look awesome, installed easy, "appear" to be well made, and didn't move an inch down the interstate... Couldn't have asked for more with the $44.95 price tag.   +1

This is nice to hear as I just bought them the other day too, but am still waiting for mine to arrive.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: roy-nexus-6 on July 10, 2008, 04:23:18 AM
Pah! Can't believe my mirrors got here first - I'm in OZ.

Anyway, I took a chance, & purchased the $45 mirrors from Moto Delux on ebay (http://stores.ebay.com/Moto-Delux).

I am very pleased to report that mirrors work very well indeed - visibility is much better than with the stock mirrors. The glass quality is excellent too, and the overall finish is very nice. The ebay transaction was painless, the mirrors arrived exactly 5 days later as promised.

My initial plan for mounting the mirrors was flawed... but I'm pleased to report that the bolt which secures the collet to the mirrors is the SAME diameter as the bolt that holds the bar ends in place: in short, I just bolted them on.

In the photo, you'll notice my paranoia knows no bounds - I've wired the mirrors. I'll be blacking that out this weekend.

[thumbsup]

(http://i293.photobucket.com/albums/mm47/roy-nexus-6/mirrorforDMF.jpg)

Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: Cucciolo on July 10, 2008, 08:30:44 AM
Got them on too!!

They are great! the only thing I had to do was to tighten the bolt that attaches to the moving mirror because they were pushed back every time I was on the highway or going fast. The wind pushed them back a little. Got resolve by tightening the bolt. Great buy !!!! Looks good!
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: ducatiz on July 10, 2008, 09:21:03 AM
Quote from: julianista on July 10, 2008, 08:30:44 AM
Got them on too!!

They are great! the only thing I had to do was to tighten the bolt that attaches to the moving mirror because they were pushed back every time I was on the highway or going fast. The wind pushed them back a little. Got resolve by tightening the bolt. Great buy !!!! Looks good!

i expected no less!

how does that affect the moving of the ball mount?
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: Cucciolo on July 10, 2008, 11:13:38 AM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on July 10, 2008, 09:21:03 AM
i expected no less!

how does that affect the moving of the ball mount?

Once you tighten it more, you are still able to move the mirror just fine. I haven't had to adjust them again.. but I can foresee that I will after a while.. no big deal really. For the price.. It couldn't be a better mirror.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: ducatiz on July 10, 2008, 11:32:07 AM
Quote from: julianista on July 10, 2008, 11:13:38 AM
Once you tighten it more, you are still able to move the mirror just fine. I haven't had to adjust them again.. but I can foresee that I will after a while.. no big deal really. For the price.. It couldn't be a better mirror.  [thumbsup]

so it's just a friction ball setup -- just like the stock mirrors on an SS. 

that was my point originally -- they move but are not made to move up and down a lot like he had in his video, and certainly not to be loose enough to move much when you are riding. 

the 900SS mirrors' fricton ball wears about after 4-5 years, sooner if you fold your mirrors for storage. 

i am sure those mirrors are fine, i just don't like him selling them as folding mirrors -- they're not.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: Cucciolo on July 10, 2008, 12:59:34 PM
I see your point. I will probably wear them sooner as I fold them in my garage... I hope they last at least 1 year and I'll be happy.

Quote from: ducatizzzz on July 10, 2008, 11:32:07 AM
so it's just a friction ball setup -- just like the stock mirrors on an SS. 

that was my point originally -- they move but are not made to move up and down a lot like he had in his video, and certainly not to be loose enough to move much when you are riding. 

the 900SS mirrors' fricton ball wears about after 4-5 years, sooner if you fold your mirrors for storage. 

i am sure those mirrors are fine, i just don't like him selling them as folding mirrors -- they're not.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: ducatiz on July 10, 2008, 02:54:52 PM
Quote from: julianista on July 10, 2008, 12:59:34 PM
I see your point. I will probably wear them sooner as I fold them in my garage... I hope they last at least 1 year and I'll be happy.


if they start sagging, the trick is to take the mirror off and polish the ball with fine sandpaper and jeweler's paste.  that makes it good for another go-round.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: x136 on July 10, 2008, 04:58:47 PM
I picked up a pair of these (or something very similar) at Cyclegear a few weeks ago for about $25. I don't particularly like that they're convex, but they do work well. When paired with the stock mirrors, it actually feels like I have some idea what is or isn't behind me.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: Cucciolo on July 10, 2008, 05:29:52 PM
Quote from: x136 on July 10, 2008, 04:58:47 PM
I picked up a pair of these (or something very similar) at Cyclegear a few weeks ago for about $25. I don't particularly like that they're convex, but they do work well. When paired with the stock mirrors, it actually feels like I have some idea what is or isn't behind me.

I thought about using the stocks and these at the same time too.. but it looks too crowded..

What I don't like about the round mirrors is that things look way far than what they really are. Takes getting used to and bit of hesitation when lane splitting. The stock mirrors do provide a bigger area to see, but they just look funny.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: ducsix on July 15, 2008, 04:10:43 AM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on July 10, 2008, 02:54:52 PM
if they start sagging, the trick is to take the mirror off and polish the ball with fine sandpaper and jeweler's paste.  that makes it good for another go-round.

When I picked up a set of the ebay mirrors, the seller (who also did the design work) recommended putting grease on the ball joints.  I slapped some moly grease on and the balls are smooth as butter now (don't say it...).  We'll see how they hold up over time.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: ducatiz on July 15, 2008, 05:51:47 AM
Quote from: ducsix on July 15, 2008, 04:10:43 AM
When I picked up a set of the ebay mirrors, the seller (who also did the design work) recommended putting grease on the ball joints.  I slapped some moly grease on and the balls are smooth as butter now (don't say it...).  We'll see how they hold up over time.

other ppl have reported that they needed to tighten the ball-screw to ride as they would keep migrating back if you leave them loose enough to "flip"
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: Cucciolo on July 15, 2008, 10:08:46 AM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on July 15, 2008, 05:51:47 AM
other ppl have reported that they needed to tighten the ball-screw to ride as they would keep migrating back if you leave them loose enough to "flip"
Who is Wing?  [popcorn]
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: ducatiz on July 15, 2008, 03:23:17 PM
Quote from: julianista on July 15, 2008, 10:08:46 AM
Who is Wing?  [popcorn]

Best.
Singer.
Ever.

http://www.wingmusic.co.nz/player/cd13.html
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: Cucciolo on July 15, 2008, 03:32:57 PM
You must be a family member aren't you?  [popcorn]

Quote from: ducatizzzz on July 15, 2008, 03:23:17 PM
Best.
Singer.
Ever.

http://www.wingmusic.co.nz/player/cd13.html
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: ducatiz on July 15, 2008, 03:36:01 PM
Quote from: julianista on July 15, 2008, 03:32:57 PM
You must be a family member aren't you?  [popcorn]


nope!
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: Alex on July 15, 2008, 03:39:52 PM
I have the CRG LSs and I definitely think the modular aspect of their design is super-important. My bike is very accident prone (being knocked over while parked is fairly common for me....... :( ) and it's really nice having mirrors that fold and dont break.

This last time the bike went down one of my mirrors broke, and I was happy to see that you can buy any part buy itself for replacement. Both the glass, or the smaller metal parts that can break during a fall can be replaced for about $20.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: Cucciolo on July 15, 2008, 03:49:22 PM

Then I give up.. you MUST enlighten me ducatizzz..!!!!!!!

Quote from: ducatizzzz on July 15, 2008, 03:36:01 PM
nope!
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: ducatiz on July 15, 2008, 04:08:16 PM
Quote from: julianista on July 15, 2008, 03:49:22 PM
Then I give up.. you MUST enlighten me ducatizzz..!!!!!!!


doesn't anyone watch South Park anymore??  google it
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: M900 on July 16, 2008, 06:03:13 AM
fyi, the left side mirrors popped off on mine yesterday while going 70 mph...  I was worried about that very thing, so I even checked it before getting on.  Now I need to find a place that'll sell me some mirrors I can glue onto the mounts.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: ducatiz on July 16, 2008, 06:29:31 AM
Quote from: M900 on July 16, 2008, 06:03:13 AM
fyi, the left side mirrors popped off on mine yesterday while going 70 mph...  I was worried about that very thing, so I even checked it before getting on.  Now I need to find a place that'll sell me some mirrors I can glue onto the mounts.

which mirrors do you have? 
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: M900 on July 16, 2008, 10:56:48 AM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on July 16, 2008, 06:29:31 AM
which mirrors do you have? 

that cheap bar end mirror copy from flea bay...
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: ducatiz on July 16, 2008, 04:47:21 PM
Quote from: M900 on July 16, 2008, 10:56:48 AM
that cheap bar end mirror copy from flea bay...

call the seller up and tell him to replace them.

that's what i would do.  how long have you had them?  if hte mirror fell out, they's defective. 
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: M900 on July 16, 2008, 05:09:18 PM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on July 16, 2008, 04:47:21 PM
call the seller up and tell him to replace them.

that's what i would do.  how long have you had them?  if hte mirror fell out, they's defective. 

I just checked; I bought the mirrors late April (and got them sometime in May), but I have been doing a few mods on the bike, so I may have had about 2 hours riding time on it with the bar end mirrors.  I bought them from D2Moto off their Amazon link and I just sent them a message via the Amazon system.  I will post an update when/if D2Moto gives me a reply.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: roy-nexus-6 on July 16, 2008, 11:27:25 PM
Quote from: M900 on July 16, 2008, 05:09:18 PM
I just checked; I bought the mirrors late April (and got them sometime in May), but I have been doing a few mods on the bike, so I may have had about 2 hours riding time on it with the bar end mirrors.  I bought them from D2Moto off their Amazon link and I just sent them a message via the Amazon system.  I will post an update when/if D2Moto gives me a reply.

Did the mirror glass fall OUT.. or did the entire mirror unit (ball socket and all) fall off?  :-\
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: M900 on July 17, 2008, 09:27:06 AM
Quote from: roy-nexus-6 on July 16, 2008, 11:27:25 PM
Did the mirror glass fall OUT.. or did the entire mirror unit (ball socket and all) fall off?  :-\

just the glass.  If the entire assembly fell out, I would have quietly and with great shame bought another pair. 
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: Cucciolo on July 17, 2008, 09:56:44 AM
I am considering glue for the glass on mine..

What do you do to substitute the bar end weights when you install these type of mirrors? These don't allow for bar ends. 
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: M900 on July 17, 2008, 10:13:20 AM
Quote from: julianista on July 17, 2008, 09:56:44 AM
I am considering glue for the glass on mine..

What do you do to substitute the bar end weights when you install these type of mirrors? These don't allow for bar ends. 

I just used the internal mounts that came with it.  I didn't have any vibration issues.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: Cucciolo on July 18, 2008, 03:58:49 PM
Well... the right mirror fell off today!! Fortunately I found it not too far from where I took off. I WILL GLUE THEM FOR SURE NOW>> 
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: roy-nexus-6 on July 19, 2008, 01:05:41 AM
Quote from: julianista on July 18, 2008, 03:58:49 PM
Well... the right mirror fell off today!! Fortunately I found it not too far from where I took off. I WILL GLUE THEM FOR SURE NOW>> 

How are you going to get the mirror out in order to glue it? And what glue are you going to use? I'm getting paranoid...   :-[
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: Cucciolo on July 19, 2008, 09:15:51 AM
Quote from: roy-nexus-6 on July 19, 2008, 01:05:41 AM
How are you going to get the mirror out in order to glue it? And what glue are you going to use? I'm getting paranoid...   :-[
YOu must be paranoid... because they will fall out.. I will use agorex or any other glue that has a lot of body. The mirror will get off by pressing on one edge and with your fingernail lifting the opposite side. DO not go on another ride without doing this or you may regret it.. I almost did.  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: M900 on July 19, 2008, 05:01:07 PM
Quote from: roy-nexus-6 on July 19, 2008, 01:05:41 AM
How are you going to get the mirror out in order to glue it? And what glue are you going to use? I'm getting paranoid...   :-[

You can get the mirror off by loosening teh wallen-head screw and popping it off.  YOu can then glue it on with silicone adhesive/sealant which shoud cost you about $5 at Autozone.

D2Moto emailed me back asking for pics of the mirror.  I expect them to replace it, otherwise I'm contacting the customer service at Amazon.com for a refund, then I'm buying a replacement mirror for teh one that fell off.  Either way, I will glue the new mirror on.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: M900 on July 24, 2008, 04:36:12 AM
Just an update on my mirros situation with D2Moto...


The cheap-o ones I bought from D2Moto through Amazon are being replaced for free.  Unfortunately, they do not have the black ones in stock, but they're selling the carbon fiber-looking ones for free.  The only thing I had to do was to send them some pics of the mirror  that had  the glass shake loose for confirmation.  If you're buying a pair, I'd recommend D2 Moto because they're among the cheapest and the service is pretty good.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: ducatiz on July 24, 2008, 05:25:51 AM
Good to know they are doing you right on the mirror.

I might pick up a pair now, but I won't consider them "folders"   ;D
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: M900 on July 26, 2008, 02:47:17 PM
Quote from: ducatizzzz on July 24, 2008, 05:25:51 AM
Good to know they are doing you right on the mirror.

I might pick up a pair now, but I won't consider them "folders"   ;D

Get it from D2 Moto via Amazon.  They're cheap enough, and I think placing the order through the Amazon marketplace gives you more protection than eBay.  I received the replacement mirrors yesterday.  I did  not get the exact ones I had -- they were out of the black and they offered me teh CF-look ones as a replacement, and it the "carbon fiber" print does not lok realistic at all, but it doesn't really matter because I kept the old hoousing I had so I can easily switch out the mirror and get rid of the fake CF housing.

Sure, it was a bummer that the glass popped off, but they replaced it and for a pair that cost about $30, I can't complain.
Title: Re: awesome bar-end mirrors on eBay
Post by: venomousr1993 on July 26, 2008, 08:11:42 PM
http://www.pjsparts.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=265&products_id=36

I wanted something different and have these on my bike in black.  They are very beefy, don't vibrate, excellent visability, glass is nice with a blueish tint like the mercedes windows.  Well worth the money.....when I store the bike I just spin the mirrors inboard like the pic...outward for riding.