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Moto Board => General Monster Forum => Topic started by: Capt baz on June 03, 2008, 10:13:01 AM

Poll
Question: Would you like to see the chain replaced with a belt ?
Option 1: Yes votes: 21
Option 2: No votes: 81
Option 3: Magna drive when perfected votes: 8
Title: Future monster drive line
Post by: Capt baz on June 03, 2008, 10:13:01 AM
was just curious what the masses felt. [coffee]
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: knightrider on June 03, 2008, 11:12:36 AM
belts are for buells
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: DucHead on June 03, 2008, 11:15:02 AM
fixed

Quote from: knightrider on June 03, 2008, 11:12:36 AM
silly rabbit belts are for buells
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: aaronb on June 03, 2008, 11:20:04 AM
My biggest issue with belts is that they are ugly.  They can’t make as tight of a turn as a chain so the front pulley has to be bigger, which in turn means the rear pulley has to be huge.  Not very pleasing. 

the reduction in maintenance is not enough to make me want to change. 
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: johnster on June 03, 2008, 12:06:20 PM
Quote from: aaronb on June 03, 2008, 11:20:04 AM
My biggest issue with belts is that they are ugly.  They can’t make as tight of a turn as a chain so the front pulley has to be bigger, which in turn means the rear pulley has to be huge.  Not very pleasing. 

the reduction in maintenance is not enough to make me want to change. 

+1 gazillion...

"Technology + reliability" doesn't always translate into "Pretty + desirable"... This is one of those times...

A belt drive ala Buell would stick out like a sore make the beast with two backsing thumb on a Monster..  :(
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: Duck-Stew on June 03, 2008, 12:09:44 PM
Providing that the drive-ratio can be adjusted as easily (availability of different tooth belt-sprockets) then I think yes...it would be desirable to replace the chain w/a belt.

The chains are dirty, need adjusting, and noisy.

Belts are getting much more powerful and thinner and lighter than a chain.  Time will tell...but I think belts are coming Ducati's way....
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: hypurone on June 03, 2008, 12:15:00 PM
Quote from: Duck-Stew on June 03, 2008, 12:09:44 PM
Belts are getting much more powerful and thinner and lighter than a chain.  Time will tell...but I think belts are coming Ducati's way....

and there could be some really kewl carbon pulleys and sh1t!!  [evil]
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: johnster on June 03, 2008, 12:18:26 PM
If there was some ultra-flex, high-strength belt that wouldn't require a big honking pulley in the back, and the belt was relatively inconspicuous, then maybe....I'd have to see it in place to really decide...Not saying it's not good food for thought, but just not my cup-o-tea...

I don't know, maybe I'm just throwback (If that's possible @ age 29  :P ), but chains are just so "Motorcycle", and I like that...
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: silentbob on June 03, 2008, 02:28:12 PM
Hydrostatic drive.
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: herm on June 03, 2008, 07:26:49 PM
i voted for the magna drive, whatever that is  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: krolik on June 03, 2008, 07:39:40 PM
Quote from: herm on June 03, 2008, 07:26:49 PM
i voted for the magna drive, whatever that is  [thumbsup]

So did I, but I would've voted for "Boobies" if that was an option. :)

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Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: mossimo on June 03, 2008, 08:27:14 PM
Quote from: krolik on June 03, 2008, 07:39:40 PM
So did I, but I would've voted for "Boobies" if that was an option. :)

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Some people never change [roll]
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: jerryz on June 03, 2008, 08:46:40 PM
My experience of belts on HDs and Buell has been very positive and the technology is developing , the benefits of belts are obvious ,cleaner quieter smoother etc and less maintainance ...

They may not handle higher HP just yet but Buells give out over 100hp and HDs develop monster torque. replacing belts on Buells and Sportsters is quick but on HD bigtwins its a 5 hour job due to the driveline layout . If Ducati used a belt it would requir changes to the crankcase for gearbox sprocket area to be enlarged for a pulley .but changing belts would be really easy job.

Having worked for an HD dealer bhere in THailand I have seen few faliures and some huge mileages racked up on belts.
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on June 03, 2008, 08:50:28 PM
Anyone who puts a *lot* of miles on their bike would probably want a belt.



I know I would.
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: BWClark on June 03, 2008, 09:39:52 PM
I read that belt vs chain article thingie, and came away thinking "whatever".

I'm a "form following function" kinda guy. If belts are better, hit it, if not, don't.

Until then, Magnadrive please...
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: Big Troubled Bear on June 04, 2008, 04:43:12 AM
Magnadrive are the way to go,..........................





.................................Warp speed here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: ArguZ on June 04, 2008, 06:41:50 AM
Belt ??
Should I buy a Buell or what ? why not a BMW directly....buuuahhh
Chain is gain !
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: Chococat on June 04, 2008, 06:56:59 AM
I prefer a chain. I just think they look meaner. ???
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: univox on June 04, 2008, 07:38:58 AM
The time spent cleaning/lubing/adjusting a chain would be better spent riding imo. Guess that doesn't exactly mesh well with the whole Ducati owner experience when you think about it.
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: LA on June 04, 2008, 07:44:15 AM
I mentioned this the other day in a thread.

Chains are so reliable now and with the concentric adjustment and no alignment needed with the SSS chassis why go to a belt.

I get over 15,000 mi. out of a DID chain and maybe a tiny adjustment one time during its' lifetime. I'm going to clean my chain when I get the bike back from it service in a few days, but I have never cleaned a chain before and never had the slightest problem with one.

No belts for me - thank you.

LA
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: psycledelic on June 21, 2008, 08:00:38 AM
I have to say yes, only because I ride in the rain and my bike sits out overnight while I am at work.  Chain maint. is a beast and new ones are expensive.  Belts wouldn"t look that bad with a nice carbon guard.  There goes another $300.
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: Bill in OKC on June 21, 2008, 08:17:57 AM
Maybe after Ducati 'proves' the belt drive in MotoGP and WSBK racing.  Until that happens put it on the 696.
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: Capt baz on June 21, 2008, 08:48:27 AM
Quote from: Bill in OKC on June 21, 2008, 08:17:57 AM
Maybe after Ducati 'proves' the belt drive in MotoGP and WSBK racing.  Until that happens put it on the 696.

nothing will help that bike
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: denbike on June 21, 2008, 05:24:03 PM
You can't gold-plate a belt.
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: Dockstrada on June 22, 2008, 04:09:15 AM
Why would you change somthing that works so well  ???
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: duc996 on June 22, 2008, 05:24:51 AM
Quote from: aaronb on June 03, 2008, 11:20:04 AM
My biggest issue with belts is that they are ugly.  They can’t make as tight of a turn as a chain so the front pulley has to be bigger, which in turn means the rear pulley has to be huge.  Not very pleasing. 

the reduction in maintenance is not enough to make me want to change. 
+1 no way!!!!
Title: Re: Future monster drive line
Post by: SP3 on June 22, 2008, 06:46:19 AM
I work with machinery that has a boat load of belts. I also own three chain driven motorcycles. Stick with chains.