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Title: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: Pinocchio on May 30, 2010, 05:00:36 PM
I've been waiting 9 weeks for a Multistrada tank bolt. I have never had to wait this this long for an OE Ducati part. Granted, it's a special bolt that only fits the 04-07 MTS 1000/620s; but since it was the best-selling Ducati model in its first year of production, they ought to have a few spare bolts. Been waiting 7 weeks for a bikini fairing, too. 4 weeks for a replacement Monster tank. 2 weeks for a couple of front end bearings and seals that I could have bought locally. [bang]

I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel about this. I mean, are Ducati owners expected to keep their own parts inventories, or get another one to ride while they're waiting for parts? >:(
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: TresGatos on May 30, 2010, 05:53:04 PM
Go to Lowes, that's what I do. As long as it works,
who's gonna notice a bolt?
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: Jester on May 30, 2010, 06:39:38 PM
Yeah I waited probably a month for a carbon fender and never saw anything.  Eventually I got a good deal on a used one from another customers bike, so I got lucky.  The whole reason I was going to get it from them was to keep the business local with AMS, but safe to say I should have gone with shift-tech and had it within a few days.

Its pretty ridiculous how many stories I've heard of people waiting for weeks/months to get their items.  The bikes are sex, but the service/parts times can be horrible.  You might try other Duc shops in the nation and just have it shipped.
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: muskrat on May 30, 2010, 07:04:31 PM
The fastest growing brand in the past 5 years and no inventory control.   [coffee]
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: hadesducati848 on May 30, 2010, 09:32:18 PM
yes i believe we are supposed to stock our own parts oh and also buy another ducati as a spare. luckily my GF bought a 696 the same time i got my 848 cause the 2nd day i had my bike i got a bolt stuck in my rear tire, it took over a week for them to get a replacement tire, then like 4 months later my radiator went out that took almost 3 weeks to get. then in the end of march my bike was hit in a parking lot, i just got my bike back from the shop 3 days ago... the main hold up was the engine gasket set, i swear if it wasnt for my gfs monster giving my my biking fix on a daily basis i would have burned down a certain ducati dealership.
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: webspoke on May 31, 2010, 03:54:50 AM
Quote from: Pinocchio on May 30, 2010, 05:00:36 PM
I'm not sure how I'm supposed to feel about this. I mean, are Ducati owners expected to keep their own parts inventories, or get another one to ride while they're waiting for parts? >:(

I think that is the ticket, and take both of them down for work at the same time.  That reminds me, I should probably pick up a spare radiator for my 848  [roll]
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: Pinocchio on May 31, 2010, 06:36:02 AM
Quote from: TresGatos on May 30, 2010, 05:53:04 PM
Go to Lowes, that's what I do. As long as it works,
who's gonna notice a bolt?

Neither Lowes nor Homer Depot had a 7mm (WTF ???) hex socket shoulder bolt, or a 7mm bolt of any description. So I finally found a 7mm hex head bolt (at Turner's, bless them!) and a nylon sleeve to slip over it to protect the big expensive rubber frame pad it goes through, and to keep the tank from shifting shift side to side on the pad. It works, but I still notice it, whenever I close my eyes. I know I could source a shoulder bolt, but there's usually a minimum order of a box at fastener companies. The bearings would be easier to find, not sure about the seals. But why should I have to source substitute hardware when there are three Ducati shops within 50 miles? >:(

Another Ducati rumor mill post attributed the slowness of the Ducati parts system to cash-strapped local dealers who are slow to order. If it's going to put them in a financial bind, why not charge the customer up front for the order? My least favorite local shop did that in the past, and though service might take them six months, they never made me wait longer than a week for a Ducati part. Granted, that was before DNA supposedly stopped warehousing parts inventory, and the parts began coming directly from Italy. Is that story a dealer fabrication to keep up the appearance of financial well-being, or is Ducati really so incompetent at managing a JIT delivery system within their network of supply?

Or is it a little of both? ???
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: fastwin on May 31, 2010, 06:47:08 AM
Turner's hardware, right? That's a rocking little, old school hardware store!! [thumbsup]

Seems like all Ducati parts arrive on the slow boat from China. Had fun waiting on my stock 916 SPS cams a couple of years ago. ;D
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: muskrat on May 31, 2010, 07:08:43 AM
Quote from: Pinocchio on May 31, 2010, 06:36:02 AM
or is Ducati really so incompetent at managing a JIT delivery system within their network of supply?

JIT?  you're kidding right?   [evil]
As much as I love the kool aid waiting 3 months to get my bike repaired would have me shopping another brand - in any world this is unacceptable!  I'm fortunate that the only problem I had was my little ole 620 at another shop that took 3 months (not the one in Dallas BTW) but DNA corrected the issue after I raised living hell.....surprised right?
I hope it gets better or the fastest growing brand will be the slowest shortly to come. 
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: Pinocchio on May 31, 2010, 07:54:24 AM
Here's the bolt.
(http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2559/3999144325_f585a0e33e.jpg)
(http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3452/3999145565_ecfa7c210a.jpg)

How do I specify this thing? Is it a "15Mx20 panhead socket shoulder screw with 7Mx1.5px10 thread and 15x10mm shoulder"? I still have the washer, with a slight die grinder furrow in it.
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: junior varsity on May 31, 2010, 08:31:44 AM
why don't you dumbasses give me a call Tu-Sa 10-6/10-5, and I'll make sure its in your hands as fast as humanly possible. [cheeky]
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: junior varsity on May 31, 2010, 08:32:20 AM
Quote from: fastwin on May 31, 2010, 06:47:08 AM
Turner's hardware, right? That's a rocking little, old school hardware store!! [thumbsup]

Seems like all Ducati parts arrive on the slow boat from China. Had fun waiting on my stock 916 SPS cams a couple of years ago. ;D


thats because everybody cringed everytime they had to look at the work order...
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: junior varsity on May 31, 2010, 08:33:04 AM
Quote from: muskrat on May 30, 2010, 07:04:31 PM
The fastest growing brand in the past 5 years and no inventory control.   [coffee]


negative nancy, reporting for duty. (big surprise!) [coffee]
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: ID_DUC_MON on May 31, 2010, 08:45:31 AM
My fault for owning an out of production bike that had seen an uncaring owner, I do love working on my bike but I sure would like riding it more. I have ridden it a total of ONE DAY this season. The rest of the time I sit and wait on stuff to come from Italy. Guido needs to row his damn canoe FASTER! I can understand not wanting to ship nickle and dime stuff, but no parts in the US, really?  I have 100 times the miles on my wife's Yamaha [puke] this season than I do on my Duc  [bang]
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: junior varsity on May 31, 2010, 09:28:44 AM
What are you lacking?

Call me tomorrow 214-466-6540. I'll get Mario and Luigi in gear, and you'll get the parts you need. Apparel, a bit of a different story right now, since that's 3rd party (Dainese), but I should be able to track down most any part.
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: Pinocchio on May 31, 2010, 09:38:58 AM
Quote from: a m on May 31, 2010, 09:28:44 AM

Call me tomorrow 214-466-6540.
Quote from: a m on May 31, 2010, 08:31:44 AM
why don't you dumbasses give me a call Tu-Sa 10-6/10-5, and I'll make sure its in your hands as fast as humanly possible. [cheeky]

Duuuuuh...hey! Who you callin' a dumb ass?!?  :P  OK, I'll call you tomorrow! [laugh]
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: junior varsity on May 31, 2010, 09:40:24 AM
good deal.
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: muskrat on May 31, 2010, 10:03:31 AM
Quote from: a m on May 31, 2010, 08:33:04 AM

negative nancy, reporting for duty. (big surprise!) [coffee]
so the truth is nagging?   [popcorn]
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: muskrat on May 31, 2010, 10:07:30 AM
This is not slander bu commentary.  If I had the money I'd own evr duc except for the half tard.  Like I mentioned I drank the cool aid long ago bt seriously they need to clean up their act and quit holding dealers and owners hostage sometimes. 
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: junior varsity on May 31, 2010, 10:20:32 AM
Nah, its just that every comment is laced with a negative. Example:"Oh great bike, but its the wrong color". I'm just bustin' your chops about it.


But just for you, sweetums, we are putting two boards up in the shop.

1) PUT UP OR SHUT UP - Ducati Open class, fastest combined cw and ccw lap times at MSR-Cresson. Any bike, any mods, etc.

2) MONSTER CUP CHALLENGE Must be a "Monster", fastest combined cw and ccw lap times at MSR-Cresson. Jury is out whether SF will be considered a Monster for purposes of this event, as it is the latest water-cooled Monster.

People interested in seeing where they stack up against others are welcome to run laps with a transponder during our track days (First up: Monday, June 7th).  Top 10 will be listed, ranked, on the boards.
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: muskrat on May 31, 2010, 10:41:23 AM
I can't participate, I am trading my Monster for an R1 [popcorn]
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: Pinocchio on May 31, 2010, 10:49:24 AM
Quote from: a m on May 31, 2010, 09:40:24 AM
good deal.
PM sent. Thanks. [beer]
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: Jester on May 31, 2010, 10:55:07 AM
Quote from: a m on May 31, 2010, 10:20:32 AM
Nah, its just that every comment is laced with a negative. Example:"Oh great bike, but its the wrong color". I'm just bustin' your chops about it.


But just for you, sweetums, we are putting two boards up in the shop.

1) PUT UP OR SHUT UP - Ducati Open class, fastest combined cw and ccw lap times at MSR-Cresson. Any bike, any mods, etc.

2) MONSTER CUP CHALLENGE Must be a "Monster", fastest combined cw and ccw lap times at MSR-Cresson. Jury is out whether SF will be considered a Monster for purposes of this event, as it is the latest water-cooled Monster.

People interested in seeing where they stack up against others are welcome to run laps with a transponder during our track days (First up: Monday, June 7th).  Top 10 will be listed, ranked, on the boards.

Would be fun to see what kind of times we run.  You guys doing this all year?
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: fastwin on May 31, 2010, 11:13:40 AM
I'll pass. I have nothing to brag about and besides I have enough people pointing and laughing at me already. No room for any more right now. ;D
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: junior varsity on May 31, 2010, 11:45:00 AM
the boards will be up for as long as we can participate in good humor. Planning to can it if/when people take it too seriously.
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: muskrat on May 31, 2010, 11:47:57 AM
Quote from: fastwin on May 31, 2010, 11:13:40 AM
I'll pass. I have nothing to brag about and besides I have enough people pointing and laughing at me already. No room for any more right now. ;D

I never thought I'd say this but I think I agree on the track bragging rights.  I've said it before, until I get a "dedicated" track bike I'm staying off. 

I can participate in the cleanest bike contest though  [moto]
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: Pinocchio on May 31, 2010, 12:09:15 PM
Quote from: Pinocchio on May 31, 2010, 10:49:24 AM
PM sent. Thanks. [beer]
Revised PM re-sent, and re-revised PM re-re-sent. [bang]
If I forgot anything, too bad! [laugh]
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: junior varsity on May 31, 2010, 04:34:55 PM
Quote from: muskrat on May 31, 2010, 11:47:57 AM
I never thought I'd say this but I think I agree on the track bragging rights.  I've said it before, until I get a "dedicated" track bike I'm staying off. 

You're the one claiming to be fast on your S4R. Hence the Monster Board. You're quick to point out you were leading on a road I'd not ridden before, but now back out from an opportunity to go fast in a safe environment? Sounds like you're going to have to quit saying you are quick on some public road, or you're going to have to take those comments and back them up on the track on your Monster and see how you'd fair against an older, less powerful Monster.  Its all in fun - no need to ride 10/10ths to see if its close.
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: muskrat on May 31, 2010, 04:58:55 PM
 :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'( :'(

I said my bike is faster.  As an Attorney in training you should know better and listen carefully  [leo]
I'm no speed demon and like it that way too, maybe too much Harley riding I guess but I could care less to be timed on a track....just me but my speed freak days are long gone.  You should see the bikes I previously tore to pieces in my "can't get hurt" days.
And lastly, I'm slow but enjoy my riding and yes I did lead you on that road.  You obviously took it to heart.  :P

Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: junior varsity on May 31, 2010, 05:02:14 PM
you seem to be selectively remembering that conversation in your favor.

Marty and I pointed out that you were a 4V guy riding with a bunch of 2Vs, and you got quite defensive that we were insinuating that you had to ride with less powerful bikes to feel superior. Here, your defense extends additional credibility to my version of the facts. :D



The Monster Cup board is for fun. We're on Monsters with poor weight distribution. Frequently on less than Super Corsas. Many without clipons or a way to keep from sliding up on the tank under hard braking. The board is just for seeing how one would measure up, if at all, on the track.

If you don't want to do it, no harm no foul. But any fishing stories about how fast you might be, or how fast you used to be are moot.
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: fastwin on May 31, 2010, 05:11:24 PM
Somebody needs to go night night. [laugh]
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: muskrat on May 31, 2010, 05:56:17 PM
I was giving you shit!   [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang]
I've never bragged about being fastest and I'm not.  There's a 695'r that will whip most SBK's out there.  Seen it too.
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: fastwin on May 31, 2010, 06:37:19 PM
Me too. I'm still sore from yesterday's ride... but it was worth it! [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Fast bikes with slow parts
Post by: calscrazy on June 01, 2010, 03:11:41 AM
Quote from: muskrat on May 31, 2010, 05:56:17 PM
I was giving you shit!   [bang] [bang] [bang] [bang]
I've never bragged about being fastest and I'm not.  There's a 695'r that will whip most SBK's out there.  Seen it too.

don't throw me in this conversation. this is between you two. besides when i do my track days (which are about one a year) i just do it to work on one thing specifically, i.e. late corner entry. btw there is no way i can keep up with sbk's with good riders on them. lisa, ronr, marty just to name a few.