1. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team 1m 49.751s
2. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Fiat Yamaha Team 1m 50.12s
3. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1m 50.359s
4. Colin Edwards USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1m 50.772s
5. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team 1m 50.773s
6. Ben Spies USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 1m 51.004s
7. Casey Stoner AUS Ducati Marlboro Team 1m 51.128s
8. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Repsol Honda Team 1m 51.255s
9. Nicky Hayden USA Ducati Marlboro Team 1m 51.387s
10. Hector Barbera ESP Paginas Amarillas Aspar 1m 51.582s
11. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP 1m 51.605s
12. Marco Simoncelli ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini 1m 51.717s
13. Marco Melandri ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini 1m 51.782s
14. Aleix Espargaro ESP Pramac Racing 1m 52.202s
15. Hiroshi Aoyama JPN Interwetten Honda MotoGP 1m 52.399s
16. Mika Kallio FIN Pramac Racing 1m 52.418s
17. Alvaro Bautista ESP Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1m 55.257s
What a surprise...
Quote from: duccarlos on June 04, 2010, 05:48:34 AM
What a surprise...
Actually, yes:
Quote from: derby on June 04, 2010, 05:36:19 AM
1. Valentino Rossi ITA Fiat Yamaha Team 1m 49.751s
2. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Fiat Yamaha Team 1m 50.12s
3. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 1m 50.359s
I didn't get past 1 and 2. Capirossi is a huge surprise. Lets see if he can keep the race pace.
Quote from: desmoquattro on June 04, 2010, 06:04:36 AM
Actually, yes:
Not to mention Colin Edwards in fourth. It's still early though but that was also nice to see.
Loris must be on a fresh motor....LOL
you think we'll see a motor grenade in this race?
Yeah, yeah, blah, blah, blah.... [roll]
Wake me 4 laps in on race day.
Race prediction, Vale 1st, Jorge 2nd and what the hell... Casey 3rd. Remember, you heard it here first. [laugh]
OMF Rossi broke his leg in practice! Helicoptered to hospital :-X "official diagnosis: VR has suffered a displaced&exposed fracture to the third medium of the right shinbone."
Likely to miss FOUR races: http://www.motomatters.com/news/2010/06/05/valentino_rossi_out_of_mugello_motogp_li.html (http://www.motomatters.com/news/2010/06/05/valentino_rossi_out_of_mugello_motogp_li.html)
I really didn't want Lorenzo to win this year damn it.
Here's the video. http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2010/FREE+EXCLUSIVE+VIDEO+Rossi+crash+in+Mugello+FP2 (http://www.motogp.com/en/videos/2010/FREE+EXCLUSIVE+VIDEO+Rossi+crash+in+Mugello+FP2)
I was really looking forward to the brewing battle between Rossi and Lorenzo. Oh well! :-\
wow... that is a pretty serious injury :(
he's in surgery now...
get well soon valentino
he hasn't missed a race since 1996
Valentino Rossi mugello Crash 05062010.mpg (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J4lYnZD8rV8#lq-lq2-hq-vhq)
Boy, do I feel stupid!
Heal well VR.
Qualy results
Pos. Rider Team Bike Time
1 Dani Pedrosa Repsol Honda Honda 1:48.819
2 Jorge Lorenzo Fiat Yamaha Yamaha 1:48.996
3 Casey Stoner Ducati Marlboro Ducati 1:49.432
4 Nicky Hayden Ducati Marlboro Ducati 1:49.546
5 Colin Edwards II Tech 3 Yamaha Yamaha 1:49.683
6 Randy De Puniet LCR Honda Honda 1:49.737
7 Ben Spies Tech 3 Yamaha Yamaha 1:49.861
8 Andrea Dovizioso Repsol Honda Honda 1:50.065
9 Aleix Espargaro Pramac Racing Ducati 1:50.168
10 Hiroshi Aoyama Interwetten Honda MotoGP Honda 1:50.224
11 Marco Simoncelli San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1:50.434
12 Loris Capirossi Rizla Suzuki Suzuki 1:50.479
13 Hector Barbera Paginas Amarillas Aspar Ducati 1:50.561
14 Marco Melandri San Carlo Honda Gresini Honda 1:50.664
15 Mika Kallio Pramac Racing Ducati 1:50.970
16 Alvaro Bautista Rizla Suzuki Suzuki 1:53.243
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on June 05, 2010, 04:21:09 AM
he hasn't missed a race since 1996
that was my first thought.
So he's going to be out for a few races, will Spies move up to take the Factory bike? Or some other guest rider.
Damn it, this really sucks. I really don't want Lorenzo to win because Rossi's injured. It doesn't feel right. But then again, there is still plenty of time for Lorenzo to launch himself into the stratosphere.
i'm watching fp2 right now, and it's really hard to see him in that much pain.. the incident completely silenced the crowd.
That was terrible to watch. Here's hopes to a good recovery and well wishes until he returns.
Out for the year?
http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5isJKDFdDBgMP-BRpNXC5nSTAvCKw (http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5isJKDFdDBgMP-BRpNXC5nSTAvCKw)
Well Matador, where do you want the JWB and cigars sent to.
On another note, how does this play out with who stays at Yamaha? I'm assuming Spies will move up to the factory squad to take his place for the next 2-3 months ( or season ).
Quote from: Jester on June 05, 2010, 10:47:45 AM
On another note, how does this play out with who stays at Yamaha? I'm assuming Spies will move up to the factory squad to take his place for the next 2-3 months ( or season ).
there's debate on whether or not the rookie rule would allow that.
saying that, if they want to give him the experience, there's nothing keeping them from pairing him with burgess and crew on the tech 3 team. [evil]
This sucks!!!
Hope Rossi feels better soon. :(
I'm sure his larger than life personality will be greatly missed at the track.
The rest of the season won't be the same without him.
Quote from: derby on June 05, 2010, 11:42:39 AM
there's debate on whether or not the rookie rule would allow that.
saying that, if they want to give him the experience, there's nothing keeping them from pairing him with burgess and crew on the tech 3 team. [evil]
Wouldn't 'most' replacement riders fall under the new rookie rule also?
The rule says a rookie is someone that hasn't done 9 motogp events in a single season.
The rules, as I understand them, also say that Yamaha must replace Rossi after he misses two or three races.
Bayliss was sputtering about riding again.... ;D
But I'm betting Spies gets the nod as a replacement.
I tended to cheer for Ducati, but very very bummed.
It wont be the same without Valentino. :'(
it is very sad indeed.
if he's out for the rest of season, do you guys think he's coming back next year?
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on June 05, 2010, 02:50:19 PM
it is very sad indeed.
if he's out for the rest of season, do you guys think he's coming back next year?
Yes. In red.
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on June 05, 2010, 02:50:19 PM
it is very sad indeed.
if he's out for the rest of season, do you guys think he's coming back next year?
I dunno, significant injuries have a way of making people reconsider things. Schwantz comes to mind.
Quote from: DuCaTiNi on June 05, 2010, 02:50:19 PM
it is very sad indeed.
if he's out for the rest of season, do you guys think he's coming back next year?
I think so.
I don't think Rossi will want to be remembered going out waving from a stretcher.
Quote from: Cider on June 05, 2010, 03:54:48 PM
I dunno, significant injuries have a way of making people reconsider things. Schwantz comes to mind.
i think rainey had a lot to do with schwantz.
I would think Colin would be the more likely candidate to move up to the Factory team. His consistency would help them secure the manufacturers title. Anyway if either Ben or Colin move up who is going to move into there spot at Tech 3...Toseland, Bayliss?
Quote from: Roy on June 05, 2010, 07:37:32 PM
I would think Colin would be the more likely candidate to move up to the Factory team. His consistency would help them secure the manufacturers title. Anyway if either Ben or Colin move up who is going to move into there spot at Tech 3...Toseland, Bayliss?
Colin's already been there. They'd probably promote Spies to play second fiddle to Jorge...rules permitting.
what a battle for 4th... sad to see nicky go down
no matter, i just can't be excited to see the pedrobot win
i don't know about colin taking rossi's place... he finished last :-\ spies is more likely, imo
Race results
1. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team 42m 28.066s
2. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Fiat Yamaha Team 42m 32.080s
3. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Repsol Honda Team 42m 34.262s
4. Casey Stoner AUS Ducati Marlboro Team 42m 53.789s
5. Marco Melandri ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini 42m 53.801s
6. Randy de Puniet FRA LCR Honda MotoGP 42m 54.031s
7. Ben Spies USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 42m 56.872s
8. Aleix Espargaro ESP Pramac Racing 43m 8.238s
9. Marco Simoncelli ITA San Carlo Honda Gresini 43m 9.460s
10. Loris Capirossi ITA Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 43m 10.173s
11. Hiroshi Aoyama JPN Interwetten Honda MotoGP 43m 11.161s
12. Hector Barbera ESP Paginas Amarillas Aspar 43m 11.429s
13. Colin Edwards USA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 43m 42.459s
14. Alvaro Bautista ESP Rizla Suzuki MotoGP 43m 52.455s
DNF:
Mika Kallio FIN Pramac Racing
Nicky Hayden USA Ducati Marlboro Team
http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/Tech+3+review+Mugello+result (http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2010/Tech+3+review+Mugello+result)
On the other side of the Monster Yamaha Tech 3 garage team-mate Colin Edwards was affected by a mystery fatigue which he first felt in the morning warm-up session. The Texan finished the race 13th and was dissatisfied after feeling strong on his M1 machine throughout the weekend.
“I'm really disappointed and a bit mystified because I've felt good all weekend and we got the bike working really well again after we switched back to the setting we had at Mugello last year,†said Edwards. “The bike was working well, but I can't ride in that condition. I felt fatigued really early in the race and was really struggling to change direction with the bike. I've had a bit of an arm pump issue all weekend for the first time in my career and needed quite a few injections to ease that. I'll try and figure it out and be ready to come out fighting strong in Silverstone.â€
more from colin:
http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84191 (http://www.autosport.com/news/report.php/id/84191)
Woo! Go Pedro! [bow_down] ( He's the only shot I got at not losing my Rossi/Lorenzo bet ) ;D
Dani!! My hero.
(he's not really miserable in real life.)
Quote from: tufty on June 06, 2010, 10:46:09 AM
Dani!! My hero.
(he's not really miserable in real life.)
He has a life? ;D
Jorge's post-race comment:
"I wanted to win and dedicate this to Vale but I come second. So I dedicate that place to him"
[laugh]
He'll be back- I was on a bike after a compound tib and fib in 4 months and I sure as hell a'nt in the condition of a GP rider. He'll be back in the game. Maybe 5 races missed if the healing is slow. I would also agree he'll wear red at some point before he hangs up his boots.
V.
[evil]
“Now I can say my morale is reasonably high because I’ve discovered I have a great rapport with morphine!†he joked, before going on to show that he was well and truly on the road to recovery with another comment about the race, which Dani Pedrosa won shortly after the interview. “I hope nobody wins!â€
Quote from: derby on June 06, 2010, 12:01:23 PM
Jorge's post-race comment:
"I wanted to win and dedicate this to Vale but I come second. So I dedicate that place to him"
[laugh]
Good thing he didn't finish 10th
Quote from: ducpainter on June 06, 2010, 11:47:24 AM
He has a life? ;D
Wait, he's human? [laugh]
I'm personally still puzzled by how pissed Jorge looked after the race. I don't for one minute think he was all broken up by Vale's accident and he can't be that bummed getting beaten by the Pedrobot.
Can he?
Quote from: Jester on June 06, 2010, 10:26:42 AM
Woo! Go Pedro! [bow_down] ( He's the only shot I got at not losing my Rossi/Lorenzo bet ) ;D
I wouldn't blame you if you wanted to back out now, it doesn't feel right without Rossi in the running.
Quote from: Drunken Monkey on June 06, 2010, 07:09:16 PM
Wait, he's human? [laugh]
I'm personally still puzzled by how pissed Jorge looked after the race. I don't for one minute think he was all broken up by Vale's accident and he can't be that bummed getting beaten by the Pedrobot.
Can he?
Ahhh, this is where you need to understand the Spaniard mentality. To see his arch-enemy beat him by 5 seconds while he had to battle with what he considers a lesser opponent would be like being forced to watch while someone else has his way with his woman. You have to understand that with Rossi out of the challenge he expected an easy win, instead he was humiliated by his main rival and had to fight for second. Yes, we are a stupid people.
This Sucks !
Now everything is up in the air .
It's pretty much for sure Rossi isn't going to win another Championship this year.
Maybe this will spur the boys in Red to get there shit together.
They don't have Vale as an excuse .
I feel your pain Val.
Torn ligaments and Tendons w, a crushed Ankle , then 7 weeks of a Staff infection .
Dolph
Rossi - He will be back for a few races at the end in blue and white. Expect him to be in blue and white next year
Spanish Turd - Still a dick regardless of how many races he wins. Just goes to show that you should never give him a clear track. He sucks when actually "racing".
Whore-ge - Dissapointed that he lost to the turd. Probably relived that he doesn't have to battle Rossi all season long
Stoner - Why couldn't he have ridden the whole race like he did the last lap?
Nicky - Borrowed Stoner's bike.
Quote from: tufty on June 06, 2010, 10:46:09 AM
Dani!! My hero.
(he's not really miserable in real life.)
He makes my life miserable. Does that count? [laugh] You need to do a google search for better heros. [cheeky] The MotoGP season just made AMA SBK look good. [bang]
Quote from: duccarlos on June 07, 2010, 05:34:49 AM
Whore-ge - Dissapointed that he lost to the turd. Probably relived that he doesn't have to battle Rossi all season long
Dude, for someone who's latin, you don't really know much about Spanish people. I expect Lorenzo to be the most upset, apart from Rossi, that Rossi is out of contention. If only due to the fact that if he wins the championship this year, all the haters are going to sayit was gifted to him by the injury.
I agree with Jesus. Who gives a shit if you win the gold medal in the 100 meter sprint at the Olympics if the best sprinters all fall down? If Lorenzo wins there will probably be an astric next to his name. * = no Rossi. [bang]
Nah, he had already shown that he could beat Rossi on similar machines. Now he just needs to be smart. He's by far the best rider out there right now simply because the turd isn't fast unless he's leading.
Man, mebbe my expectations for this season were too high, but it's been disappointing so far. Casey keeps falling down, The Ben has been hit or miss, Colin has been uninspired and the 250 riders are nowhere to be seen. The couple of bright spots are Hayden and Dovi back on pace and the fact that Honda has turned around its fortunes so quickly. That was 4 hondas in the top 6? Not bad, particularly considering that they looked like dogshit at the beginning of the season. Did they all go back to Showa or did they just get it figured out?
And is it me or are the Ducati guys falling down a lot?
Oh, and Pedrosa is still a douchenozzle.
Quote from: Spidey on June 07, 2010, 05:47:03 PM
Man, mebbe my expectations for this season were too high, but it's been disappointing so far.
+1.
On the other hand, I hated Moto2 for replacing 250s, but I love it now. Guilty pleasure, I guess.
Everybody is falling down a lot.
Stoner's been having troubles.
Ben's pulled out of one race with a duff front, and lost the front once to crash out.
Rossi's been chasing for rear grip, likely with a setup biased to get front grip, and it bit him on the ass.
Nicky this week.
Capirossi twice in races, yes?
AFAIK, Dovi got the Ohlins figured out, as he's been on them since last September.
I'm not convinced that Pedrobot has the Ohlins figured out, he looked better this weekend, but I think it's just luck.
Melandri switched back to Showa, and it seems to be working.
I think all the other Hondas are on Ohlins still.
IMO, Bridgestone lost part of the recipe over the winter.
Rossi's replacement to come from Tech 3. No, not The Ben. (in Ryder's opinion)
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jun/100607v46t3.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jun/100607v46t3.htm)
define irony.
The last thing I want to watch is a Fiat Yamaha torpedoing the back of Nicky's Desmo. It will be interesting to see if Yuki can at least fight with the mid pack guys on superior equipment to his last ride.
If Ben or Colin filled in for Rossi, how do the points and engine rules work out? Would rider points continue to accumulate normally, even though a person rode for two different teams?
Personally, I wonder if Hayes would turn down the offer. He might prefer to focus on winning a national title? Maybe if they offer the seat to Gibernau, Rossi will be motivated to heal as fast as possible :).
Quote from: Cider on June 09, 2010, 07:34:17 AM
If Ben or Colin filled in for Rossi, how do the points and engine rules work out? Would rider points continue to accumulate normally, even though a person rode for two different teams?
Personally, I wonder if Hayes would turn down the offer. He might prefer to focus on winning a national title? Maybe if they offer the seat to Gibernau, Rossi will be motivated to heal as fast as possible :).
rider points are exactly that, rider points. constructor points, however, would stay w/ the team.
Points go to the rider. Engines go with the team/bike. Edwards/Spies would be using Rossi's engines.
I don't wanna see Takahashi (though Dorna would love to have a Japanese rider in the mix). I either wanna see Colin on the bike or The Ben if they'll make a rule exception. Not sure if either of those things are going to happen. Then Crutchlow to Tech 3.
I know he's leading the Moto2 championship, but woulnd't Elias be a solid fill-in rider? That'd do a lot for getting him back into the MotoGP paddock.
Quote from: El Matador on June 06, 2010, 08:06:56 PM
I wouldn't blame you if you wanted to back out now, it doesn't feel right without Rossi in the running.
Nah. Rossi is out of the running because he made a mistake and his luck finally ran out. That's racing man, it just won't be his year. Jorge still has to win the championship though. I'm rooting for Pedro or for Jorge to launch himself into the stratosphere again.
Quote from: Spidey on June 09, 2010, 08:21:58 AM
Booooo, hiss!
(http://www.newsoftheworld.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00032/pedrosa_280x420_32402a.jpg)
Dani finds your lack of support amusing.
Quote from: Jester on June 09, 2010, 07:52:24 AM
Jorge still has to win the championship though. I'm rooting for Jorge to launch himself into the stratosphere again.
wasn't Shanghai where he went totally airborne and broke both ankles?...and that track is yet to come...
Quote from: zooom on June 09, 2010, 10:10:24 AM
wasn't Shanghai where he went totally airborne and broke both ankles?...and that track is yet to come...
Yeah, but he finished that race in fourth and came back next race two weeks later to finish second. His right wrist was also Fubared.
Spies post-Mugello OTT interview (with some LeMans discussion)
http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7545625 (http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/7545625)
As usual, a really interesting technical discussion.
Quote from: gm2 on June 08, 2010, 06:42:47 PM
Rossi's replacement to come from Tech 3. No, not The Ben. (in Ryder's opinion)
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jun/100607v46t3.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2010/Jun/100607v46t3.htm)
define irony.
How would that fit into the rookie rule?
Quote from: ducpainter on June 09, 2010, 05:43:28 PM
How would that fit into the rookie rule?
rule wouldnt' apply. he's not a regularly contracted rider in the motogp class.
he's also not a rookie. he was in 2009, until talmacsi's money took his seat.
Quote from: gm2 on June 10, 2010, 08:24:19 AM
he's also not a rookie. he was in 2009, until talmacsi's money took his seat.
Ironic that he's not subject to the rookie rule but Spies apparently is ;D
Quote from: desmoquattro on June 10, 2010, 08:27:47 AM
Ironic that he's not subject to the rookie rule but Spies apparently is ;D
how is it ironic? this is ben's first year in GP. yuki's was last year.
what IS ironic is that in 2009 yuki was given the Scot honda ride over ben b/c honda wanted a japanese rider in the series. so ben went to wsbk, destroyed shit, yuki went to GP, crashed into some people, and then was replaced with another backmarker.
Quote from: gm2 on June 10, 2010, 08:57:35 AM
how is it ironic? this is ben's first year in GP. yuki's was last year.
what IS ironic is that in 2009 yuki was given the Scot honda ride over ben b/c honda wanted a japanese rider in the series. so ben went to wsbk, destroyed shit, yuki went to GP, crashed into some people, and then was replaced with another backmarker.
That's kind of what I was getting at. Ben's a different class of rider.
Quote from: gm2 on June 10, 2010, 08:24:19 AM
he's also not a rookie. he was in 2009, until talmacsi's money took his seat.
Did he do the 9 races?
Just curious, because to be honest the rule confuses me.
Quote from: ducpainter on June 10, 2010, 01:08:32 PM
Did he do the 9 races?
Just curious, because to be honest the rule confuses me.
nah, actually he only did 7. thought it was more than that.