I think the Gang of Six (Five?) should all go in on an Austin Attorney to fight for truth, justice, and The American Way (which in this case means getting a little slack for an innocent going-straight-in-a-right-turn-only-lane). Stooopid maker of beasts with multiple backs on the back of a beast [leo]
Gimme a Shout Out.
Good idea. I was planning on fighting it anyway. I'm in.
I think Cory is too. Who else? Svoloch?
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 05, 2008, 03:23:45 PM
I think Cory is too. Who else? Svoloch?
who's gonna walk to the courthouse, put there hand on the door handle, remove their hand, turn around and walk across the street to the lawyers? ;D
Quote from: dallas2r on June 05, 2008, 03:39:02 PM
who's gonna walk to the courthouse, put there hand on the door handle, remove their hand, turn around and walk across the street to the lawyers? ;D
Who's closest??
i'm game for this...maybe RichD knows a creative lawyer...
what's our deadline to figure out one way or the other? i've misplaced my ticket temporarily... ???
My deadline is Jun 26th
Don't know any Austin lawyers that are ticket hounds. I'll ask around for a referral.
What was the damage for the Talimena Trail tickets? I never heard. You hooligans!
Quote from: swanny on June 05, 2008, 04:13:05 PM
What was the damage for the Talimena Trail tickets? I never heard. You hooligans!
It was like $253.50 or something :P
I may be in... I will be in Tampa the 16th and 17th, though
Quote from: svoloch on June 05, 2008, 06:33:04 PM
I may be in... I will be in Tampa the 16th and 17th, though
Oh sure get us all tickets then leave the state.
Quote from: svoloch on June 05, 2008, 06:33:04 PM
I may be in... I will be in Tampa the 16th and 17th, though
Yo P, stop pretending you've never been busted before....
We just need to respond (via attorney) before the 26th.
Who's going for a legal beagle, & does anyone have austin connections?
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 06, 2008, 06:39:18 AM
Yo P, stop pretending you've never been busted before....
We just need to respond (via attorney) before the 26th.
Who's going for a legal beagle, & does anyone have austin connections?
maybe someone on THC board knows someone?
Good idea... I'm on it.
Quote from: DesmonsterS4RS on June 05, 2008, 07:06:30 PM
Oh sure get us all tickets then leave the state.
how else do you think he roles?
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 05, 2008, 03:51:06 PM
Plenty O' Time... Dont' Panic!!!
You guys have till the 26th???
I got mine two days later and had a no later than date of the 10th. >:(
In fact I got flack from the lawyer about it on my way out of his office. The lack of time to prepare I mean. I'm like hey I didn't write the fing ticket.
Quote from: MurDuc on June 06, 2008, 12:43:45 PM
I got mine two days later and had a no later than date of the 10th. >:(
Tuesday?!?!?!?!?!!!!!!!!!!! That's TOTAl B.S....
Quote from: MurDuc on June 06, 2008, 12:43:45 PM
In fact I got flack from the lawyer about it on my way out of his office. The lack of time to prepare I mean. I'm like hey I didn't write the fing ticket.
Good luck, man. Let us know the outcome... Fingers crossed [thumbsup]
Quote from: MurDuc on June 06, 2008, 12:43:45 PM
You guys have till the 26th???
I got mine two days later and had a no later than date of the 10th. >:(
In fact I got flack from the lawyer about it on my way out of his office. The lack of time to prepare I mean. I'm like hey I didn't write the fing ticket.
Those lawyers across from the courthouse rarely have much patience. They were probably former bigwigs, and don't have time for tomfoolery.
Pss-sst, Ron: don't say 'tomfoolery'
Okay, gang... Is anyone else in, or is it just me that wants to fight this nonsense?
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 09, 2008, 08:53:14 PM
Okay, gang... Is anyone else in, or is it just me that wants to fight this nonsense?
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 05, 2008, 03:51:06 PM
Plenty O' Time... Dont' Panic!!!
(http://www.freesmileys.org/smileys/scared002.gif)
Quote from: McKraut on June 06, 2008, 06:46:20 AM
maybe someone on THC board knows someone?
Did anybody check with the THCM crew? DLS, you said you were on it. Did you find anything out?
How fightable is it? Technically, we did violate the stupid sign, even if everybody else in town did the same. I'll probably end up doing the defensive driving unless there is a good way to get out of it otherwise.
Quote from: dallas2r on June 09, 2008, 09:09:05 PM
Did anybody check with the THCM crew? DLS, you said you were on it. Did you find anything out?
Apparently nobody in Austin gets into trouble. [leo]
[laugh]
Quote from: dallas2r on June 09, 2008, 09:09:05 PM
Did anybody check with the THCM crew? DLS, you said you were on it. Did you find anything out?
No response yet :P
I wouldn't mind taking the ticket to a Lawyer down there. We wouldn't even have to go to court just drop off the ticket pay the lawyer, and who knows it could get dismissed. Worst case scenario we still pay for the ticket.
Only question is when are we goin to Austin ??? , whos drivin ??? , and whos buyin the first round ??? [beer] [drink] ;D
Quote from: DesmonsterS4RS on June 10, 2008, 02:34:59 PM
whos buyin the first round ??? [beer] [drink] ;D
Duh.... Svoloch!
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 10, 2008, 02:35:56 PM
Duh.... Svoloch!
Does that mean your driving ! I call shotgun in the Z4 8)
Quote from: DesmonsterS4RS on June 10, 2008, 02:34:59 PM
I wouldn't mind taking the ticket to a Lawyer down there. We wouldn't even have to go to court just drop off the ticket pay the lawyer, and who knows it could get dismissed. Worst case scenario we still pay for the ticket.
Only question is when are we goin to Austin ??? , whos drivin ??? , and whos buyin the first round ??? [beer] [drink] ;D
i think a cruise in a caprice is in order!!! (or is it the crown vic?)
Quote from: McKraut on June 10, 2008, 05:46:29 PM
i think a cruise in a caprice is in order!!! (or is it the crown vic?)
9C1 Caprice with an average 17mpg it'sprobably not the cheapest way to get to Austin [roll]
something like 15 days until these have to be paid (for the discounted "early" rate)....any updates in the attorney department?
you know, i never really asked you at the time svoloch... when did the cop first signal to you that you had to stop...or did he start after you were *completely* through the intersection? i only ask because, technically...once he started "signaling" with his flashlight for the remaining bikes to submit to the side of the street (on the other side of the intersection)...we were not even through the intersection yet. i know this is true for me at least...i just noticed he was waving his light around and i hadn't even made it out in the intersection as of yet, i.e. i had not yet even committed a crime. had i known what was going on, or anyone else not yet through the intersection for that matter, we could have simply turned right, however, we were directed by the police to continue through the intersection. i just thought he was pulling us over for being noisy... :-\
also, there were no markings/arrows whatsoever painted on the street, and the sign was in a crappy location, and was not the "typical" type of sign indicating the right turn only with arrorws and a "ONLY" under the right arrow.
just throwing that out there.
Not to mention, don't they realize the humiliation we suffered for being pulled over by horse cops
Quote from: Ronr on June 13, 2008, 01:07:10 PM
Not to mention, don't they realize the humiliation we suffered for being pulled over by horse cops
No way. Seriously?
the cruel irony in this is that i could have "ran" from this and not broken any laws... of course i didn't have time to read through a paragraph on a sign while dealing with an idiot BMW that was just sitting stationary in the lane...
Quote from: McKraut on June 13, 2008, 10:39:59 AM
you know, i never really asked you at the time svoloch... when did the cop first signal to you that you had to stop...or did he start after you were *completely* through the intersection? i only ask because, technically...once he started "signaling" with his flashlight for the remaining bikes to submit to the side of the street (on the other side of the intersection)...we were not even through the intersection yet. i know this is true for me at least...i just noticed he was waving his light around and i hadn't even made it out in the intersection as of yet, i.e. i had not yet even committed a crime. had i known what was going on, or anyone else not yet through the intersection for that matter, we could have simply turned right, however, we were directed by the police to continue through the intersection. i just thought he was pulling us over for being noisy... :-\
also, there were no markings/arrows whatsoever painted on the street, and the sign was in a crappy location, and was not the "typical" type of sign indicating the right turn only with arrorws and a "ONLY" under the right arrow.
just throwing that out there.
I was pulled over with my helmet off before I knew they were "pulling me over". I stopped in front of Gingerman because a bunch of people were following me ( always a mistake, clearly ), and I was not sure where to park. If we had kept going, well, we would have been gone.... After all, we have over a hundred horsepower advantage...
-Svoloch
Well, I thought I found a good lawyer to help us out. He handles traffic tickets for many Dallas attorneys, and has been doing it forever. His name is John M Gioffredi.
I checked out his website, and he handles tickets all over Texas, but unfortunately his minimum fee for outside this area is $750. I suspect that will be a problem with any attorney from this area. An Austin attorney would probably be best. I'm still leaning toward the defensive driving.
Crickey! The fine is $167.!!!!!!
We got a letter from an Austin attorney, so I'm going to call him after lunch [thumbsup]
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 16, 2008, 10:33:10 AM
Crickey! The fine is $167.!!!!!!
We got a letter from an Austin attorney, so I'm going to call him after lunch [thumbsup]
Well we got 10 days whats the word Scott???
The attorney in Austin can file for a deferment, where you don't have to take defensive driving, and if you don't get another ticket in 3 months ( :P), it goes away and does NOT go on your record [thumbsup]
Attorney's fee - $150.
Court cost- $100. to $125.
We do NOT have to go to Austin
I need to know who's in... NOW pleeeze ;D
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 16, 2008, 04:02:22 PM
The attorney in Austin can file for a deferment, where you don't have to take defensive driving, and if you don't get another ticket in 3 months ( :P),...
I would like to add: The truth is if you do not get a
CONVICTION on another ticket in 3 Months it will not show.
Get another ticket in that time and just have the Atty. keep it "tied up"/delayed until you pass that milestone.
Also, it is
usually "not another ticket IN THAT JURISTICTION" in 90 days time, not Texas as a whole, or elsewhere in the USA...
Odds are you will not be in Austin for 3 Months... let alone get picked on...
unless you are following a vegan, of course. [laugh]
...Also: if you do chose to go to Austin, odds are you can catch up to the Asst. District Atty. the morning of the appearance. Talk to him. He can get you the deferment (after all sir, I AM a good citizen, please talk to the district Atty. and Judge for me...) and the deferment will cost you: the cost of the ticket and court costs. (Duh, it's just a cash-grab after all).
To ride the ride, sometimes you can skip the line, sometimes you have to buy a ticket... the Fairgrounds must be paid for...
Ooooh! Look!, over there! Cotton Candy!!!.... [moto]
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 16, 2008, 04:02:22 PM
The attorney in Austin can file for a deferment, where you don't have to take defensive driving, and if you don't get another ticket in 3 months ( :P), it goes away and does NOT go on your record [thumbsup]
Attorney's fee - $150.
Court cost- $100. to $125.
We do NOT have to go to Austin
I need to know who's in... NOW pleeeze ;D
I'm in. Do we get a group rate?
I am in.
And who would be dumb enough to follow a Vegan? Of course, now following a Svoloch to a bar is always a good idea... just make sure your bar is not close to a right turn only sign and some 1-horsepower cops... ( and hell, it's probably less than 1 if measure at the back leg... )
Did someone say Bar? Where?? Beer!!!!!
Oh, once I have commitments, I'll try to negotiate...
In:
L'Smart
Svoloch
dallas2r
ronr
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 16, 2008, 04:26:06 PM
Did someone say Bar? Where?? Beer!!!!!
Oh, once I have commitments, I'll try to negotiate...
In:
L'SMart
Svoloch
dallas2r
Ronr
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 16, 2008, 04:02:22 PM
The attorney in Austin can file for a deferment, where you don't have to take defensive driving, and if you don't get another ticket in 3 months ( :P), it goes away and does NOT go on your record [thumbsup]
Attorney's fee - $150.
Court cost- $100. to $125.
We do NOT have to go to Austin
I need to know who's in... NOW pleeeze ;D
Ok so he can "file for a determent" does that mean if the "determent" doesn't go through we will have to pay all the lawyer fees + court costs AND still have to pay for the ticket?
Quote from: DesmonsterS4RS on June 16, 2008, 07:01:01 PM
Ok so he can "file for a determent" does that mean if the "determent" doesn't go through we will have to pay all the lawyer fees + court costs AND still have to pay for the ticket?
That's DEFERMENT. They DEFER final judgment until the 90 days is up.
In 90 days: Has he been a good citizen?
YES: We will drop the charges. Thanks for your cash! No charges filed on your record.
NO: You ass! Double insurance for YOU! Points, etc... Oh, and thanks for your cash! :)
So is this Defered Adjudication we are talkin about then.
Quote from: DesmonsterS4RS on June 16, 2008, 07:14:32 PM
So is this Defered Adjudication we are talkin about then.
Yeah, but without Defensive Driving, & without having to drive to Austin. So, are you in?
F the police.
>:(
i'm in.
In:
L'Smart
Svoloch
dallas2r
ronr
McKraut
Now where's Cory?!??!?!?!?
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 17, 2008, 01:07:37 PM
In:
L'Smart
Svoloch
dallas2r
ronr
McKraut
Now where's Cory?!??!?!?!?
i'm sure he won't be able to post until 5:30 because he's "working"
Quote from: McKraut on June 17, 2008, 02:00:10 PM
i'm sure he won't be able to post until 5:30 because he's "working"
make the beast with two backsin Cory
[laugh]
OK I'M IN ALLREADY!!!! For once I actually WAS working :o.
In:
L'Smart
Svoloch
dallas2r
ronr
McKraut
DesmonsterS4RS
Excellent, All in!
I'll call in the morning... In the meantime, PM me your "Cause Number" off of the lawyer's (Turner) letter.
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 17, 2008, 04:07:24 PM
I'll call in the morning... In the meantime, PM me your "Cause Number" off of the lawyer's (Turner) letter.
I didn't know I got a letter from a lawyer. Is that a number from the ticket? Because I DO have a frucking ticket. make the beast with two backsin Svoloch!!!
Quote from: Ronr on June 17, 2008, 08:01:03 PM
I didn't know I got a letter from a lawyer. Is that a number from the ticket? Because I DO have a frucking ticket. make the beast with two backsin Svoloch!!!
I got a letter, but the Cause No. listed doesn't match anything on the original ticket. ???
no letter here, either...but i'll post up the info from my ticket after lunch
The "cause number" was generated by the lawyer for his reference.
If you don't have a letter, no big.
I'm gonna call & set things up so we can get this going...
Found my letter. Looks like it came in the last day or two. Sending cause no. now.
Thanks DLS [thumbsup]
Quote from: Cher on June 13, 2008, 01:09:27 PM
Quote from: Ronr on June 13, 2008, 12:07:10 PM
Not to mention, don't they realize the humiliation we suffered for being pulled over by horse cops
Quote from: Lisa..
No way. Seriously?
(sorry, I'm a little bit behind on this thread... thought I'd offer up a visual of the event in question for those who were not there...)
(http://www.barneephife.com/pics/duc/hc08/IMG_0426.jpg)
my ticket number is: 12908012
those horses should be in derbies!!!!! [leo] [leo]
What's going on with all the hands on the left side of the photo? Did a crowd come out and applaud?
Quote from: fastwin on June 18, 2008, 03:21:14 PM
What's going on with all the hands on the left side of the photo? Did a crowd come out and applaud?
Not really applauding. [clap]
More of gawking. [popcorn]
That was group #2 (slow group) who arrived second, parked on the other side of the intersection, and went in and ordered beer. [drink] Very important group, with very important responsibilities.
DLS, just to verify, you're coordinating things with the atty at this point and no action is required from us as of right now?
;D [thumbsup]
Quote from: McKraut on June 20, 2008, 05:04:09 AM
DLS, just to verify, you're coordinating things with the atty at this point and no action is required from us as of right now?
Quote from: Duc L'Smart on June 20, 2008, 06:05:37 AM
;D [thumbsup]
We <3 DLS!
sent you a text with my cause #. don't want to be the only rebel without a cause #.
yeah. I know. I'm sorry. that was lowbrow, even for me.
Quote from: The Svoloch on June 20, 2008, 03:37:56 PM
that was lowbrow, even for me.
they were all out of lowenbrau at the store acutally, sorry dude...but i do have some awesome vegan beer...apparently it's all Natural or something; you're welcome to 16oz of it! [thumbsup]
alright. be there at 1am. no rice throwing.
what about your BIG RELEASE???
i'm in such suspense!!
i'm all paid up.
next time i'm running it, though...just an FYI. others are welcome to do the same.
Quote from: McKraut on June 23, 2008, 01:17:46 PM
i'm all paid up.
next time i'm running it, though...just an FYI. others are welcome to do the same.
Ditto
Thanks Scott [beer]
and I also want to give a huge thanks to Svoloch [thumbsup] my bank account was WAAAAAAAAAY too full getting rid of that $150.00 was just what I needed.
i just told Veronica that the next time she was in dallas patrick would treat her to some tasty vegan sausage, and she only made me pay $100. [thumbsup]
I wonder what she'll make me pay? I'll be calling in tomorrow... just spaced on it today :(
Quote from: The Svoloch on June 23, 2008, 05:22:06 PM
I wonder what she'll make me pay? I'll be calling in tomorrow... just spaced on it today :(
She agreed to charge you double for all of our pain and suffering. [thumbsup]
Everybody call in asap if u haven't already. They are going in to court today to set up the deferred adjudication deal. She did say that was for no tickets in Austin, so I know where I'm not going for a while.
anybody have the number handy?