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Title: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: stopintime on August 12, 2010, 01:00:48 PM
Guys, I'm furious [bang]

My brand new, clean, white Dainese Racing Pelle combined with a brand new Kappa back pack, black shoulder strap (synthetic mesh material) - couple of hours in clean rain, no cars in front to throw dirt/oil on me.

I've tried the Dainese leather care kit - nothing. Leather stores pulled out whatever they had - nothing.
The new brown/red color is permanent.

Any other stains wipe off with a wet cloth and normal cleaner.

I've tested what a wet-rubbing mark will look like - rubbed a hidden piece on the jacket with the wet shoulder strap AND a wet white T-shirt (for comparison). Both end up with a black (worn through)(?) stain/mark - not at all like the red/brown stains in the picture

The shop I bought the Kappa back pack in, and the Kappa importer are both trying to wash their hands (we'll see about that  [evil] ).

Have you seen or heard about anything like this? Better yet - know what to do?

(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l394/stopintime/farging006.jpg)

(http://i329.photobucket.com/albums/l394/stopintime/farging001.jpg)
Title: Re: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: Raux on August 12, 2010, 01:12:57 PM
try white out  [evil]
Title: Re: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: stopintime on August 12, 2010, 01:34:30 PM
Quote from: Raux on August 12, 2010, 01:12:57 PM
try white out  [evil]

Where's the middle finger gesture icon? >:( ;)
Title: Re: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: DoubleEagle on August 13, 2010, 04:03:43 PM
Try a pencil eraser or other kind of eraser.

If that doesn't work try some Isopropyl Alcohol ( rubbing  Alcohol ) w, a Q Tip , then use conditioner on the treated leather.

Dolph     :)
Title: Re: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: stopintime on August 14, 2010, 05:26:14 AM
Quote from: DoubleEagle on August 13, 2010, 04:03:43 PM
Try a pencil eraser or other kind of eraser.

If that doesn't work try some Isopropyl Alcohol ( rubbing  Alcohol ) w, a Q Tip , then use conditioner on the treated leather.

Dolph     :)

Thanks, I followed your advice - nothing.

I'll go and see "the specialist" early next week.
If that doesn't help - it's time to get serious. (similar to small claims court)
Title: Re: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: DoubleEagle on August 14, 2010, 05:22:39 PM
Quote from: stopintime on August 14, 2010, 05:26:14 AM
Thanks, I followed your advice - nothing.

I'll go and see "the specialist" early next week.
If that doesn't help - it's time to get serious. (similar to small claims court)
Lars, how about a stain remover like you would spray on laundry before you put it in the washing machine or a stain remover stick?

May be something like Tooth Paste ( the whitening kind ).

Dolph    :)
Title: Re: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: nllm_oo_mlln on August 19, 2010, 07:23:48 AM
take a magnifying glass to the grain to see if the friction from the pack took off the finish.  This is what happened to my "Old Times" jacket. if this is the problem get some Angelus Leather Paint.  I touched up some scuffs on my dainese pants and it hasn't cracked or pealed yet.

as for cleaners I found  Leather Therapy brand spray wash too work very well. It got chain grease and pine sap out of the rather porous cream leather on my m-tec jacket. It took a few cleanings because it works over time and brings the stain to the surface 
Title: Re: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: stopintime on August 19, 2010, 07:34:31 AM
Quote from: nllm_oo_mlln on August 19, 2010, 07:23:48 AM
take a magnifying glass to the grain to see if the friction from the pack took off the finish.  This is what happened to my "Old Times" jacket. if this is the problem get some Angelus Leather Paint.  I touched up some scuffs on my dainese pants and it hasn't cracked or pealed yet.

as for cleaners I found  Leather Therapy brand spray wash too work very well. It got chain grease and pine sap out of the rather porous cream leather on my m-tec jacket. It took a few cleanings because it works over time and brings the stain to the surface 

I tested rubbing until the surface was compromised (on a hidden leather piece). It turned out black/blue. So, that's not it.
This is not like any normal stain - it's synthetic color.

I'll be persuing this by legal action.
Nothing/nobody messes with my Dainese and my consumer rights [evil]
Title: Re: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: redxblack on August 19, 2010, 04:13:27 PM
are you going after the backpack makers or the jacket makers?
Title: Re: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: DoubleEagle on August 19, 2010, 05:15:07 PM
Quote from: redxblack on August 19, 2010, 04:13:27 PM
are you going after the backpack makers or the jacket makers?
Sounds like the Backpack maker to me.

Dolph     :)
Title: Re: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: stopintime on August 20, 2010, 12:13:29 AM
Correct, the back pack maker represented by the importer  [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: DucHead on August 20, 2010, 03:08:10 AM
It's probably dye, in which case your only choice might be white leather dye.

If possible, wash the backpack to remove unbound dye.

IMO, white leather should be stained...looks used.

Just don't be seen in a coffee shop with a clean, white Dainese jacket!   [cheeky]
Title: Re: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: CapnCrunch on August 20, 2010, 04:01:59 AM
Quote from: pompetta on August 20, 2010, 03:08:10 AM

IMO, white leather should be stained...looks used.

Just don't be seen in a coffee shop with a clean, white Dainese jacket!   [cheeky]

werd.

Title: Re: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: stopintime on August 20, 2010, 10:46:06 AM
Quote from: pompetta on August 20, 2010, 03:08:10 AM
............

Just don't be seen in a coffee shop with a clean, white Dainese jacket!   [cheeky]

Why would I get a white Dainese if it wasn't to wear when I have my espresso  :D
Title: Re: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: DoubleEagle on August 20, 2010, 06:32:11 PM
Lars, you can probably get some white liquid shoe polish w, a sponge applicator and cover the stain w, that.

Dolph    :)
Title: Re: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: corey on August 23, 2010, 11:34:59 AM
Mr. Clean MAGIC ERASER.
It will make anything white again. The things are make the beast with two backsing awesome.
Title: Re: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: Popeye the Sailor on August 23, 2010, 05:32:44 PM
Quote from: corey on August 23, 2010, 11:34:59 AM
Mr. Clean MAGIC ERASER.
It will make anything white again. The things are make the beast with two backsing awesome.

I'll try it on my teeth!  ;D
Title: Re: Dainese color fail / Kappa back pack fail / WTF?
Post by: DoubleEagle on August 23, 2010, 08:10:19 PM
Quote from: MrIncredible on August 23, 2010, 05:32:44 PM
I'll try it on my teeth!  ;D
Be sure and get the mint flavored.

It tastes the best.

Dolph       :)