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Moto Board => Gear => Topic started by: NAK3D696 on June 08, 2008, 07:55:25 PM

Poll
Question: If money isnt an issue who are you trusting your head to?
Option 1: Arai votes: 23
Option 2: Shoei votes: 19
Option 3: Suomy votes: 7
Option 4: Icon votes: 2
Option 5: HJC votes: 0
Option 6: Other votes: 5
Option 7: Shark votes: 1
Option 8: AGV votes: 1
Title: Whats your preference?
Post by: NAK3D696 on June 08, 2008, 07:55:25 PM
 [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Whats your preference?
Post by: D8 on June 08, 2008, 09:06:02 PM
You forgot about Shark.
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Post by: Popeye the Sailor on June 08, 2008, 10:13:21 PM
SNELL and DOT.


As far as brands, whatever fits your head best is safest.
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Post by: DarkStaR on June 08, 2008, 10:42:59 PM
1st Arai.
2nd AGV.  This should be added to the poll.
3rd Suomy.
4th Shoei.
Title: Re: Whats your preference?
Post by: Count Desmo on June 09, 2008, 06:11:09 AM
I've always been a Nolan guy because they fit my head perfectly. [thumbsup]
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Post by: taun on June 09, 2008, 09:47:31 AM
I've only owned Shoei and Arai, but I don't really have a preference.  As long as they're DOT and Snell approved, I'm happy.  I've been told that Snell has standards that are more strict than DOT, but I've never confirmed this.
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Post by: Slide Panda on June 09, 2008, 10:23:56 AM
Quote from: taun on June 09, 2008, 09:47:31 AM
I've only owned Shoei and Arai, but I don't really have a preference.  As long as they're DOT and Snell approved, I'm happy.  I've been told that Snell has standards that are more strict than DOT, but I've never confirmed this.

A few minutes on google and you can get confirmation that Snell standards exceed DOTs.   

I'm in the best fitting DOT + Snell camp too. 

From a few studies you're better off with an inferior (within reason) helmet that fits well than you are with a poor fitting top of the line one.

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Post by: DoubleEagle on June 09, 2008, 02:08:25 PM
Seems to me I read somewhere that the current Snell standard was flawed. Something about it only took into account a blow either from a certain drop height which was found to be not high enough to really simulate a higher speed collision or something like that. I believe Snell is in the process of reevaluating their standard for certification.
Title: Re: Whats your preference?
Post by: DesmoDiva on June 09, 2008, 03:06:08 PM
I currently own two Arais.  I love them.  Fit my melon the best.  [thumbsup]

I paid more for my first Arai than I paid for my first  [moto]. 

I value my life more than my bikes. 

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Post by: teddy037.2 on June 09, 2008, 10:13:42 PM
arai stuff fits me best, and has shown to be the easiest for me to get my glasses on out of all the brands I tried.
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Post by: NAKID on June 10, 2008, 12:02:57 AM
Whatever fits well....
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Post by: Spider on June 10, 2008, 01:43:25 AM
I always wanted an Arai...but they didn't fit, so it's Shoei for me!

I'm going to try a Schuburth next time I'm at a BMW dealer - they look good too, the German's know engineering and have great safety standards.
Title: Re: Whats your preference?
Post by: triangleforge on June 10, 2008, 09:14:23 AM
There's another set of standards worth considering -- the ECE-2205, which a lot of folks in the industry think is superior to the Snell standard (at least for now; apparently the Snell update in 2010 will move closer to ECE-2205 and the Snell Foundation itself says that only about 20% of its currently certified helmets will pass the new standard). There's a discussion of the two standards on the owner of Helmet Harbor's Blog here:

http://toddmhelmetharbor.blogspot.com/2008_02_01_archive.html

The gist of it is that the Snell tests push designers toward a "harder" helmet, while the ECE-2205 encourages/allows a softer shell and softer helmet all around. While a tad counterintuitive, a softer shell can produce some radical gains in deceleration, which is what protects your brain from smacking hard enough against your skull to cause a severe concussion.  Basically, a soft shell allows the styrofoam to crush from both sides, while a rigid one only crushes from the inside, with your head doing all the crushing. 

Bicycle helmets (which are also Snell certified) went through the same evolution. Old men like me remember the old Bell Biker helmets -- hard shells with styrofoam inside (and cheese-grater vents). Then Giro came along with a helmet that deleted the hardshell entirely and used just a spandex cover. It was much cooler, much lighter, and was a quantum leap in protection from concussion. Because the exposed styrofoam tended to stick instead of sliding on pavement, there were reports of neck injuries with the new lids, so Giro went to a flexible microshell over foam design that is now the standard for all bike helmets.
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Post by: flanman on June 10, 2008, 02:54:23 PM
How are dainese helmets?
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Post by: Big Troubled Bear on June 11, 2008, 07:59:59 AM
Arai [thumbsup]
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Post by: Spike on June 11, 2008, 01:45:59 PM
Shoei.
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Post by: johndoe on June 11, 2008, 06:17:34 PM
The SparX Red Corsa.  Cool looking and very light, third lightest full face on the market.  Great quality at a great price.  I like it better than my Suomy and it is ECE rated.  Good reviews at Helmet Harbor and webBikeWorld.
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Post by: larakat on June 11, 2008, 07:36:53 PM
I've only worn Shoei until recently.  Switched to Scorpion.  I like this helmet better than the former Shoei.

comfort, fit, venting, and removeable padding win my $.

But oh, I want Zemke's helmet so BAD!!  Angry killer racing carp!   [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Whats your preference?
Post by: Pakhan on June 11, 2008, 08:38:15 PM
I've had Shoei, Arai, Nolan,and an HJC.  I like the shoei and arai best.

WBW has some great insight on helmet shape and which companies produce which shape.
http://www.webbikeworld.com/motorcycle-helmets/motorcycle-helmet-faq.htm
Title: Re: Whats your preference?
Post by: brnout on June 13, 2008, 03:53:02 AM
British government helmet rating: http://dft-1-sharp.eduserv.org.uk/