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Title: Vibrams...
Post by: Slide Panda on October 07, 2010, 08:59:07 AM
are they the new Croc, Ugg or other soon-to-be-overplayed shoe trend of the moment?

Yeah, I've heard the schpiel about bare foot running being better because you don't to this or that that 'normal' shoes have you do etc etc. And yeah, some folks will do what's needed to improve their stride mechanical and may well benefit. But most, let's face it, are lazy and will just end up with sore, make the beast with two backsed up feet...

Meh... guess I'm just tried of the trends. And man, they are god awful ugly.



- Yeah.. I'm bored today
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: VisceralReaction on October 07, 2010, 09:02:14 AM
Yeah who knows. My brother got a pair a couple years ago and he loves them.
He said they made his feet sore for the first week but after that his feet got stronger and used to them.
I tried them and it's just like walking barefoot but with some protection. They felt pretty cool to be honest,
but yeah they really look wierd.
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: YellowDuck on October 07, 2010, 09:10:19 AM
Mainstream, they will probably be a fad but I am sticking with them.

When I got mine it was rough for the first two weeks of running, now I can't run in regualar running shoes. I wear them for running and in the gym, especially on leg or combination/total days. I don't wear shoes outside of work (unkess I am riding),I wear topsiders to work and flops the rest of the time.
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: He Man on October 07, 2010, 11:24:32 AM
My brother bought a pair and swears by em for biking. I want to try a pair for running and outdoor activies only since They arent fashionable at all. Some people wear em as everyday shoes with nice clothes going out, its werid.
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: kopfjäger on October 07, 2010, 02:37:29 PM
When I see people wearing them, I want to stomp on there toes.
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: zarn02 on October 07, 2010, 06:13:37 PM
I've never worn them, and have maybe only seen a couple people with 'em on.

That said, I could see them as a running/exercise shoe.

But for just walking 'round, driving, working, motorcycling, kicking children down stairs, stopping alien invasions, etc., I'm more of a boots guy.
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: DoubleEagle on October 07, 2010, 10:03:06 PM
I'd like to try a pair .......but they don't make them in my size .

I have gone barefoot all Summer inside.

Dolph     :)
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: Nitewaif on October 09, 2010, 11:59:54 PM
I have a friend who was wearing them hiking and snagged his pinkie toe on a root.  His feet were godawful blue and black for weeks.
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: The Bacon Junkie on October 10, 2010, 10:10:28 AM
I've got a pair..  For the first week, my quads and glutes were really sore, but after that my back pain went away and I felt great!

Wish I could wear them at work.
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: GAAN on October 10, 2010, 12:37:16 PM
Vibram is the sole on a Boot

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTRSXHu1E8GNYnq-BjYHCLk0CtwDA5gm8LTm0gmwI4LBzrT_XM&t=1&usg=__X2FMQ92CSVNlsFG10mWKqHRpJY4=)
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: Randimus Maximus on October 10, 2010, 12:44:13 PM
Quote from: Mother on October 10, 2010, 12:37:16 PM
Vibram is the sole on a Boot

(http://t2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTRSXHu1E8GNYnq-BjYHCLk0CtwDA5gm8LTm0gmwI4LBzrT_XM&t=1&usg=__X2FMQ92CSVNlsFG10mWKqHRpJY4=)

so you are saying the OP probably means this: http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/indexNA.htm (http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/indexNA.htm)
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: GAAN on October 10, 2010, 12:58:34 PM
Quote from: Randimus Maximus on October 10, 2010, 12:44:13 PM
so you are saying the OP probably means this: http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/indexNA.htm (http://www.vibramfivefingers.com/indexNA.htm)

yes I know what he was refering to


Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: Slide Panda on October 11, 2010, 06:50:17 AM
Oh he knows. He's just being himself  :P

If we want to get real picky... they also make doggie shoes. But yes, I was referring to the 5 finger jobbies
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: Scooter Montgomery on October 11, 2010, 07:05:49 AM
I started running a couple of months ago. I would get knee pain if I ran to hard. I also neede new sneaker since mine were pretty flat and worn down. After reading reviews online(REI and youtube) about these I went and picked up a pair. Being someone that never wears flip flops they felt weird. Wore them around for a couple of weeks. Last week was the first time I started actually running in them. After a 2 mile run my calves were killing me, super tight. My lower back was sore, tight also. Clearly they change my geometry when running over normal sneakers. My knees felt completely fine after running in them. I agree they do look pretty stupid, but if they work I don't care. I bought the KSO.
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: zooom on October 11, 2010, 07:24:37 AM
Quote from: zarn02 on October 07, 2010, 06:13:37 PM
I've never worn them, and have maybe only seen a couple people with 'em on.

That said, I could see them as a running/exercise shoe.

But for just walking 'round, driving, working, motorcycling, kicking children down stairs, stopping alien invasions, etc., I'm more of a boots guy.

you forgot zombie-pocolypse....
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: JEFF_H on October 11, 2010, 03:08:24 PM
What's 'running'  ???
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: Scooter Montgomery on October 12, 2010, 06:10:37 AM
It's that thing after  [bacon] and just before heart attack.
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: desmopr on October 13, 2010, 07:28:58 PM
I saw a guy this week riding a motorcycle in the highway with those shoes.  Yes, no joke... :-X
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: danaid on April 26, 2012, 10:44:03 PM
  Reviving this thread!


I have discovered these vibram five finger shoes and  now they are the only shoes I wear except when I'm at work!

I work out in a pair of Komodosports, which are a newer fitness/ multisport type, and also run in them.

After not being able to not get rid of a mild but bothersome case of plantar fascitis, and not being able to run, I decided to start giving my lower legs some extra attention at the gym. Starting with being barefoot more, lots of calf work, stretching, and of course five finger shoes, my plantar fascitis is finally but beginning to heal after no improvement for 3 years!   ;D

I have bought a second pair that are a casual sneaker style, that I wear every day.

After reading some negative or curious posts from these older threads, I wonder if anyone else has switched to these shoes. They are becoming more and more common even in my conservative area of California.

Dan
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: somegirl on April 26, 2012, 10:52:55 PM
I have switched to Soft Star Shoes (with vibram soles) for most things including work.  Between those and Smartwool socks my feet have been very happy. [thumbsup]
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: RAT900 on April 27, 2012, 02:18:44 AM
anyone remember Kalso Earth Shoes?
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: Ddan on April 27, 2012, 02:26:46 AM
Quote from: RAT900 on April 27, 2012, 02:18:44 AM
anyone remember Kalso Earth Shoes?

Oh yeah.  Had to have 'em   ;D
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: kopfjäger on April 27, 2012, 02:28:05 AM
Quote from: RAT900 on April 27, 2012, 02:18:44 AM
anyone remember Kalso Earth Shoes?

Went to the store in Georgetown and bought some for my girlfriend. Haven't seen either in years.  :D
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: Ddan on April 27, 2012, 02:32:58 AM
They are still out there.

http://www.earthbrands.com/kalsoearthshoe (http://www.earthbrands.com/kalsoearthshoe)
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: RAT900 on April 27, 2012, 02:51:33 AM
Quote from: Dan on April 27, 2012, 02:32:58 AM
They are still out there.

http://www.earthbrands.com/kalsoearthshoe (http://www.earthbrands.com/kalsoearthshoe)

I still (love) wear Clarks Desert Boots   [laugh]

Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: zooom on April 27, 2012, 05:10:00 AM
I have seen at my running store on the fun runs, some of the "barefoot" runners who prefer to run in these ultra minimalist shoes migrating back to real minimalist shoes...like the Vivobarefoot shoes or some of the various track and field kind of shoes that weigh practically nothing and have practically no support whatsoever...
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: Slide Panda on April 27, 2012, 05:50:22 AM
Quote from: danaid on April 26, 2012, 10:44:03 PM
After not being able to not get rid of a mild but bothersome case of plantar fascitis, and not being able to run, I decided to start giving my lower legs some extra attention at the gym. Starting with being barefoot more, lots of calf work, stretching, and of course five finger shoes, my plantar fascitis is finally but beginning to heal after no improvement for 3 years!   ;D

After reading some negative or curious posts from these older threads, I wonder if anyone else has switched to these shoes. They are becoming more and more common even in my conservative area of California.

Nope... Though I've never had troubles like that. I'm one for those fortunate mutants that gets farm boy strong legs with minimal effort.

Though I've got to wonder how much the stretch and strength rehab work is improving things vs the use of the 5 fingers. Just academic curiosity though  - can dispute with what works for your body.


Quote from: somegirl on April 26, 2012, 10:52:55 PM
I have switched to Soft Star Shoes (with vibram soles) for most things including work.  Between those and Smartwool socks my feet have been very happy. [thumbsup]

Guess the title is a little misleading as Vibram does make soles for a lot of different folks, not just the 5 finger shoes. And it's the 5 finger shoes that got me started
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: Le Pirate on April 28, 2012, 12:21:14 PM
Quote from: zooom on April 27, 2012, 05:10:00 AM
I have seen at my running store on the fun runs, some of the "barefoot" runners who prefer to run in these ultra minimalist shoes migrating back to real minimalist shoes...like the Vivobarefoot shoes or some of the various track and field kind of shoes that weigh practically nothing and have practically no support whatsoever...

my wife picked up some of the 5 fingers (or as I call them, frog feet) a year or so ago. She swore up and down how great they were and tried to convince me. I couldn't handle it though...I tried them on and got toe claustrophobia  [laugh]

anyways, I stayed with normal running shoes, but a couple months ago I picked up these New Balance Minimus zero shoes. I love them. Regular "style" shoe, but super light weight and no drop. They also have the vibram sole. Not sure what that means, but apparently they make good soles?  [laugh]

http://www.newbalance.com/nb-minimus/ (http://www.newbalance.com/nb-minimus/)
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: NAKID on April 29, 2012, 04:58:51 PM
Buddy of mine has the minimus and loves them. With my whole knee issue post wreck, I feel I need a little more cushion than those or the "toe shoes" as I like to call them. I found a great compromise in the Sketchers GoRun. Ultralight 7oz, engineered to encourage a midfoot strike, and lots of "feel". Look them up. I like them, been running in them for a couple weeks now. Reasonably priced too...
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: pitbull on April 29, 2012, 07:11:16 PM
the barefoot (or almost barefoot) vs. solid running shoe debate can get pretty heated. I have a link somewhere to an excellent round table discussion from some of the best researchers and biomechanical people in the field.

Basically what it comes down to is that some people do very well running barefoot with a forefoot strike and experience less knee strain and related problems.

For others, barefoot running is a complete disaster and will result in serious injury. Typically this seems to be the case for flat footed folks and they do better with a tradition heel strike in a more stable shoe.

Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: He Man on April 29, 2012, 07:29:50 PM
i run with vibrams. i cant say its too much of a difference except that its much louder and i am faster. though my foot itself is more sore than normal.
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: MendoDave on April 30, 2012, 11:47:07 AM
I can't run, so I walk and hike. I wear these most everywhere.

(http://a2.zassets.com/images/z/7/9/6/796084-p-LARGE_SEARCH.jpg)

I have a couple of pair. My feet love not having socks on all the time. These provide toe protection while being nice and airy, and they are easy to take on and off. I used to have a sort of "Jungle rot" that I picked up years ago in the deep south. I tried creams and medications and it would always come back. After I started wearing sandals it went away completely. The feet smell is gone too. Speaking for myself, having feet covered in socks and shoes all the time is not a good thing.
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: duccarlos on April 30, 2012, 04:02:31 PM
My wife prefers real barefoot running. When she goes through a really rough area, she wears the 5-fingers. I have a pair I use when I practice martial arts on a hot surface.
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: danaid on April 30, 2012, 08:52:34 PM
Quote from: NAKID on April 29, 2012, 04:58:51 PM
Buddy of mine has the minimus and loves them. With my whole knee issue post wreck, I feel I need a little more cushion than those or the "toe shoes" as I like to call them.


  I could not jog much or walk for long without getting some minor knee pain from an old knee injury I deal with and I thought padded running shoes were the answer, but  I still had the pain.
The switch to five fingers, surprisingly for me, has resulted so far, no pain and soreness in my knee with the change to a  midfoot  strike vs. heel strike.
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: NAKID on April 30, 2012, 09:26:19 PM
So far the only pain I've had is I feel tight in my back after running in them. Not "pain" so much, just like a little muscle tension and soreness...
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: He Man on April 30, 2012, 09:57:37 PM
i get the same thing, but i find that its jsut soreness rather than pain from running with regular shoes.
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: Speedbag on May 01, 2012, 04:22:56 AM
Quote from: Mendo Dave on April 30, 2012, 11:47:07 AM
I can't run, so I walk and hike. I wear these most everywhere.

(http://a2.zassets.com/images/z/7/9/6/796084-p-LARGE_SEARCH.jpg)

I have a couple of pair. My feet love not having socks on all the time. These provide toe protection while being nice and airy, and they are easy to take on and off. I used to have a sort of "Jungle rot" that I picked up years ago in the deep south. I tried creams and medications and it would always come back. After I started wearing sandals it went away completely. The feet smell is gone too. Speaking for myself, having feet covered in socks and shoes all the time is not a good thing.

Keens rule!
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: zooom on May 01, 2012, 05:27:29 AM
Quote from: NAKID on April 30, 2012, 09:26:19 PM
So far the only pain I've had is I feel tight in my back after running in them. Not "pain" so much, just like a little muscle tension and soreness...
Quote from: He Man on April 30, 2012, 09:57:37 PM
i get the same thing, but i find that its jsut soreness rather than pain from running with regular shoes.

so basically, your muscles are talking to you for/from using different groupings and in a different way, so your body is adjusting....I have heard people experiencing similar things when adjusting to running in Newtons....
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: NAKID on May 01, 2012, 05:00:09 PM
Yeah, I'm not really complaining. Just something different than I've experienced with previous running. I did a half marathon last year and wasn't as sore as after these ~30 min runs...
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: MendoDave on May 01, 2012, 05:14:20 PM
Quote from: Speedbag on May 01, 2012, 04:22:56 AM
Keens rule!

That's pretty much my opinion too.
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: He Man on May 01, 2012, 07:35:40 PM
i ran tough mudder in mine.

i picked the wrong pair. the bottom of my feet were aching. Aside from it being to cold, my sore feet was the biggest challenge.
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: NAKID on May 03, 2012, 05:46:13 PM
Quote from: zooom on May 01, 2012, 05:27:29 AM
so basically, your muscles are talking to you for/from using different groupings and in a different way, so your body is adjusting....I have heard people experiencing similar things when adjusting to running in Newtons....

Ran 5 out of the last 6 days in these. Back is less sore after the run. I'm sure it'll go away soon enough...
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: zooom on May 03, 2012, 06:42:57 PM
Quote from: NAKID on May 03, 2012, 05:46:13 PM
Ran 5 out of the last 6 days in these. Back is less sore after the run. I'm sure it'll go away soon enough...

you are breaking in from like walking to a mile and then slow incremental steps of increase right?
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: NAKID on May 03, 2012, 06:48:52 PM
These are the Sketchers GoRun, not Five Fingers.
Title: Re: Vibrams...
Post by: zooom on May 04, 2012, 07:08:30 AM
you should go look at the Newton Distance or MV2 shoes then...