....leather sponsorship at Rossi's request
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jan/110103hydendainese.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jan/110103hydendainese.htm)
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jan/110103lorenzobails.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jan/110103lorenzobails.htm)
...okay...maybe it wasn't a Rossi's request...
Funny Nicky story. Just another whiney baby George story. :P I don't care how many make the beast with two backsing titles he wins or how good he is, I don't like the kid. Of course, I've heard he doesn't care for me either. [laugh] I hope The Ben takes a whipping stick to his ass on the track this year. [thumbsup]
Quote from: oldfastwin on January 03, 2011, 03:43:12 PM
Funny Nicky story. Just another whiney baby George story. :P I don't care how many make the beast with two backsing titles he wins or how good he THINKS he is, I don't like the kid. Of course, I've heard he doesn't care for me either. [laugh] I hope The Ben takes a whipping stick to his ass on the track this year. [thumbsup]
had to make a clarification for you. hope you don't mind. ;D
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5044/5322027290_902e179c83.jpg)
"I want my mommy!"
Quote from: oldfastwin on January 03, 2011, 03:43:12 PM
Funny Nicky story. Just another whiney baby George story. :P I don't care how many make the beast with two backsing titles he wins or how good he is, I don't like the kid. Of course, I've heard he doesn't care for me either. [laugh] I hope The Ben takes a whipping stick to his ass on the track this year. [thumbsup]
That is all. ;)
(http://i201.photobucket.com/albums/aa91/chiflado/nicky-hayden-takes-t-32_800x0w.jpg)
Quote from: Bick on January 03, 2011, 03:56:35 PM
had to make a clarification for you. hope you don't mind. ;D
(http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5044/5322027290_902e179c83.jpg)
"I want my mommy!"
[laugh] [laugh] [laugh] Good one! At least he wasn't crying about Vale! ;D
Quote from: zooom on January 03, 2011, 01:14:47 PM
....leather sponsorship at Rossi's request
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jan/110103hydendainese.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jan/110103hydendainese.htm)
http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jan/110103lorenzobails.htm (http://www.superbikeplanet.com/2011/Jan/110103lorenzobails.htm)
...okay...maybe it wasn't a Rossi's request...
I love how they say that Lorenzo dumped the Italian leather sponsor because of Rossi and then conveniently omitted where Alpinestars is based.
Quote from: Bick on January 03, 2011, 03:56:35 PM
had to make a clarification for you. hope you don't mind. ;D
I don't think there's much debate about Jorge being an amazing rider. He beat everyone's ass this year, had an incredible run of 1st/2nds and won by a massive margin. He may have an odd personality, but he is an amazing rider and the favorite to win it all again next year. I know this will spark debate, but he's a far greater racer than Nicky has ever been (and I don't even particularly like Jorge).
Quote from: Rameses on January 03, 2011, 10:23:44 PM
I love how they say that Lorenzo dumped the Italian leather sponsor because of Rossi and then conveniently omitted where Alpinestars is based.
probably obvious, but it's not about where astars is based, it's that rossi has worn dainese for over 15 years and "they didn't promote his winning the motogp world title to lorenzo's satisfaction."
...i'm also sure that alpinestars is throwing lorenzo a good deal of money in the process.
Quote from: darylbowden on January 03, 2011, 10:32:08 PM
....I know this will spark debate, but he's a far greater racer than Nicky has ever been....
faster yes, greater is up for debate, as to me, there is a lot more to being a great racer than just being fast...Nicky has the heart, the work ethic, the will, and the charisma to make it through all the crap without slinging anyone under the bus, and lets face it...he has transitioned from a completely different end of the world of motorcycling in comparo to Jorge...one that if the shoes were reversed, I am not sure that Jorge would have been able to overcome the same diversities?
Quote from: derby on January 03, 2011, 10:33:55 PM
...i'm also sure that alpinestars is throwing lorenzo a good deal of money in the process.
well, and they are the only other suit manufacturer that is making an airbag deployment system for protection, which Jorge has probably become accustomed to and feels he needs like Linus' security blanket...all the stunning highsides he has launched himself into the stratosphere with, has probably at least engrained into his head to get the best he can, no matter what!
Even then doing an exemplary job of pointing out the glaringly obvious and treating it as news, we casually said to the teen racer from Kentucky "So, wearing your brother's old leathers, huh?".
"No, they're my mom's," Hayden deadpanned, while walking away.)
[laugh] [laugh] [thumbsup]
+1 on what zooom said on both those subjects! Thanks for not making me type something similar. ;D [thumbsup]
Yeah, wouldn't have heard a funny comeback like that from George! Nicky's a damn good guy. Sure George is awesome on the track but personality wise Nicky laps him like he's standing still in the real world.
Quote from: oldfastwin on January 04, 2011, 09:02:34 AM
Nicky's a damn good guy. Sure George is awesome on the track but personality wise Nicky laps him like he's standing still in the real world.
apparently Nicky has a real polished a pretty Tissot ad in GQ where if you had no idea who he was, you'de have maybe thought he was a model as he was VERY not Ducati or Kentucky looking...my sister said there was a tiny lil mention of him being a MotoGP racer, but otherwise, he looked like he was ready for a date with a Supermodel in NYC, as she put it.
Quote from: darylbowden on January 03, 2011, 10:32:08 PM
I don't think there's much debate about Jorge being an amazing rider. He beat everyone's ass this year, had an incredible run of 1st/2nds and won by a massive margin. He may have an odd personality, but he is an amazing rider and the favorite to win it all again next year. I know this will spark debate, but he's a far greater racer than Nicky has ever been (and I don't even particularly like Jorge).
agreed*.
and i really like nicky and really don't like jorge.
*even to the favorite part, just cuz it's (duh) gotta be likely. but i think stoner is going to be a problem... as i keep saying =)
Quote from: zooom on January 04, 2011, 09:25:13 AM
apparently Nicky has a real polished a pretty Tissot ad in GQ where if you had no idea who he was, you'de have maybe thought he was a model as he was VERY not Ducati or Kentucky looking...my sister said there was a tiny lil mention of him being a MotoGP racer, but otherwise, he looked like he was ready for a date with a Supermodel in NYC, as she put it.
The boy is living the dream... and a large one at that! [thumbsup] [wine]
Quote from: oldfastwin on January 04, 2011, 12:30:34 PM
The boy is living the dream... and a large one at that! [thumbsup] [wine]
I am not sure that THIS is the ad, but I found this...
(http://static.blogo.it/twowheelsblog/nicky-hayden-tissot-ads/big_1.jpg)
but anyway...I digress...
Quote from: derby on January 03, 2011, 10:33:55 PM
probably obvious, but it's not about where astars is based, it's that rossi has worn dainese for over 15 years and "they didn't promote his winning the motogp world title to lorenzo's satisfaction."
...i'm also sure that alpinestars is throwing lorenzo a good deal of money in the process.
Oh I know. But it's also not about where Dainese is based either. Like you said, it's about the fact that they're in bed with Rossi.
I just found it interesting that in the article they tried to make it look like the fact that Dainese is an Italian company was somehow relevant, while Alpinestars is HQ'ed only about 20 miles down the road from Dainese.
Quote from: zooom on January 04, 2011, 04:20:35 AM
faster yes, greater is up for debate, as to me, there is a lot more to being a great racer than just being fast...Nicky has the heart, the work ethic, the will, and the charisma to make it through all the crap without slinging anyone under the bus, and lets face it...he has transitioned from a completely different end of the world of motorcycling in comparo to Jorge...one that if the shoes were reversed, I am not sure that Jorge would have been able to overcome the same diversities?
What he overcame doesn't make him a greater rider, winning races and championships does. Nicky, while I prefer him much more as a human and root for him, won less races in his championship season than did Jorge by the time they finished at silverstone this year (5th race of the year) and one of those 2 races Nicky won was only because Colin nearly killed himself right before the finish line.
Charisma, humility, good-ol-'merican, those are all great, but that less have less than nothing to do with being a great racer. A great human maybe, but not a great racer. Jorge took on the best field there has been in years and demolished them and it's not like he was a slouch the previous 3 years (pole in his first race ever at Qatar anyone?) in addition to his accomplishments in 125/250s.
I think Jorge is as milktoast as they come, but he's still a greater rider than Nicky has ever been - hopefully Nicky will do something this year and change that (but I'm not making any zooom bets on that one ;).
Quote from: darylbowden on January 04, 2011, 08:36:03 PM
I think Jorge is as milktoast as they come, but he's still a greater rider than Nicky has ever been - hopefully Nicky will do something this year and change that (but I'm not making any zooom bets on that one ;).
i think you mean
milquetoast.
(friggin english majors...)
;D
Quote from: derby on January 05, 2011, 06:44:24 AM
i think you mean milquetoast.
(friggin english majors...)
;D
Duuuude, I'm on vacation this week - grammar and spelling are on break too. And yes, that's exactly what I meant. make the beast with two backser ;)
* Not that I'm a marketing expert, but can someone explain to me (and Yorgey) how winning the world championship can be attributed in any way to the leather protective gear a rider wears....how does it make him go faster? [coffee]
Quote from: derby on January 05, 2011, 06:44:24 AM
i think you meant milquetoast.
(friggin' english majors...)
;D
fixed it for ya [thumbsup]
Quote from: OT on January 05, 2011, 12:10:03 PM
* Not that I'm a marketing expert, but can someone explain to me (and Yorgey) how winning the world championship can be attributed in any way to the leather protective gear a rider wears....how does it make him go faster? [coffee]
when you go out every day and do your job...do you wear boxers or briefs or otherwise?....when you wear something different...does it irritate you or leave you slightly unsettled in some small way that gives you a smidge of discomfort and takes you just a smidge off your game possibly due to a slightly distracted focus?...
well...given what they are doing....every ounce of distraction amplifies quickly...not having that lil extra ability of some feature that a suit may give them can be alot....it can change the focus for even a split second which can be that crucial moment when traction is not optimum and they are needing some level of flexibility that isn't there for them to just move into that 1 position for to save a situation...but I am purely speculating on that last thing...
maybe the bottom line is, he feels he is a World Champion and he wore their gear and was looking for some level of financial compensation that they were not prepared to hand over, or he was looking for X number of pieces of equipment provided free of charge and they are only prepared to give Y...
...just... [laugh]
mmmmm Milktoast sounds good.
so....the Yammyhammer still has no sponsor whilst Jorge selfishly racks up his own deals...
http://motomatters.com/news/2011/01/13/still_no_title_sponsor_for_yamaha_s_moto.html (http://motomatters.com/news/2011/01/13/still_no_title_sponsor_for_yamaha_s_moto.html)
best image in my head I conjured up with reading this was inspiredby this quote...
"...Yamaha will appear at the first MotoGP test of the year at Sepang with bikes painted either in Yamaha's corporate colors, or else with plain black carbon fiber fairings...."
...I am somehow imagining a Black Carbon Fiber clad bike with a #1 on the nose and white lettering on 1 side saying "This Space For Rent" and on the other some quote about "Inquire about Advertising Opportunities-Call 1-800....."
Quote from: zooom on January 13, 2011, 09:08:11 AM
whilst Jorge selfishly racks up his own deals...
selfishly? come on dude. he's world champ. he earned all the Rockstar dollars he can get.
yamaha's sponsorship problems really aren't his problems. they were also inevitable with the rossi move, unfortunately.
I wonder if Rockstar demanded a partial refund...
(http://l2.sphotos.l3.fbcdn.net/hphotos-l3-ash1/hs776.ash1/166650_486460700810_265283315810_6599978_1410502_n.jpg)
Quote from: gm2 on January 13, 2011, 11:12:00 AM
selfishly? come on dude. he's world champ. he earned all the Rockstar dollars he can get.
yamaha's sponsorship problems really aren't his problems. they were also inevitable with the rossi move, unfortunately.
Because as 'valuable' as Jorge and his fans think he is...
he just doesn't command the $$$$$, or the perceived value to sponsors Rossi does.
That doesn't diminish his ability as a rider.
Add the fact that the economy sucks and Jorge doesn't stand a chance to be a cash cow for the Yamaha racing program.
Quote from: humorless dp on January 13, 2011, 11:41:11 AM
Because as 'valuable' as Jorge and his fans think he is...
he just doesn't command the $$$$$, or the perceived value for the team to sponsors that Rossi does.
Add the fact that the economy sucks and Jorge doesn't stand a chance to be a cash cow for the Yamaha racing program.
modified your comment for to add the following afterward...
....and he will continue to not be a cash cow for the Yamaha team until he has multiple championships under his belt...