I’m looking for a back protector. I need it for the street and the two or three track days. Since cost is an issue, I’ve been keeping an eye on eBay.
Anyone have any experience with these or any recommendations?
Velo-shield by Velocity Gear
Ufo Back Protector
Bohn ProRacer back protector
Alpinestar Bionic Back Protector
My recommendations
1. TPRO
2. TPRO
3. TPRO
4. TPRO
5. Bohn or Knox or Dainese.
www.johnsonleather.com/forcefield_back_protector.htm or www.motostrano.com/tpfobapr.html
I bought from johnson and he was very helpful with getting the correct size.
Helimot Back Protectors (http://www.helimot.com/shopraceandtrackdisplayproducts.asp?id=32) always get good reviews.
I would go with the Knox Contour. http://oncycles.com/catalog.asp?r=1&pn=KNX00023 (http://oncycles.com/catalog.asp?r=1&pn=KNX00023) or http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no=424 (http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no=424) (Check out the video)
I would choose Knox over TPro for one very simple reason. The Contour covers the shoulder blades. TPro does not. They are both CE EN1621-2 Level 2 protectors.
TPRO!
if it's good enough for spidey... well, who am I to argue? :)
Be sure to check with the track/school about their rules for back protectors. Some only allow Hard type ones. One of the folks here had to borrow a hard one at a track day, even though he'd gone through the trouble of getting a T-PRO protector.
I've got one of the Dianese Gillets for the hopes that I make it to the track. I feel like a Ninja Turtle in it :)
I have the A* Bionic. I really like it. Waist belt gives good back support and it ventilates well. It is a hard type one.
The only drawback is that it doesn't cover/protect the shoulder blades.
It is also CE certified at level 2.
I have used a BMW back protector for 2 years and had it on the day I crashed on the backroads and broke 4 ribs . No back injury at all. I just got one that comes with the Dainese Safety Jacket Wave V 2, it also has neck protection built in the jacket . Dainese makes alot of different Back Protectors. Dainese.com.
Quote from: teddy037.2 on June 12, 2008, 07:35:35 PM
TPRO!
if it's good enough for spidey... well, who am I to argue? :)
Agreed, now this is probably stupid...but is Spidey on the new board, under a new name? or back 'there'?
Red Duke, is this going inside a intergrated jacket pocket or between your inner layer and the jacket?
Spider
Quote from: Spider on June 13, 2008, 08:24:14 PM
Agreed, now this is probably stupid...but is Spidey on the new board, under a new name? or back 'there'?
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18
Quote from: COWBOY on June 12, 2008, 02:32:46 PM
My recommendations
1. TPRO
2. TPRO
3. TPRO
4. TPRO
5. Bohn or Knox or Dainese.
www.johnsonleather.com/forcefield_back_protector.htm or www.motostrano.com/tpfobapr.html
I bought from johnson and he was very helpful with getting the correct size.
Why TPro ? It looks like it would be very hot and isn't it soft -not hard armor which would not spread or dissapate an impact over a wider area rather than concentrated it in one spot ?
Aside from the fact our resident crash expert has field tested it repeatedly at the track.... ahem Spidey [evil]
Why 1-4 on my list? It's the most protective and the most comfortable.
Nothing on the market currently offers the energy dispersion that Tpro material does (the only other protector to get a 10 for protection on the Ride! test was the BMW motorrad). Another bonus on the TPro material is that unlike hard armor it doesn't lose effectiveness after it's been hit even if it is hit in the same spot.
It will conform to the shape of your back. It flows air equally as well as at least the Dainese Wave (can't speak for others never used them). This makes it comfortable and unobtrusive, making it more likely that I will actually wear it regularly even on long rides.
This link has a pdf of the Ride! test that can be downloaded.
http://www.matrixmotosports.com/products/forcefield-pro-l2-back-protector
Here's a comparison with Bohn
Comparison with Bohn. http://www.webbikeworld.com/r3/back-protector/tpro-bohn/
[beer]
Quote from: msincredible on June 13, 2008, 08:46:32 PM
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?action=profile;u=18
Sorry for the threadjack everybody!
and thanks MsIncredible, again! (seems like I'm typing that constantly lately)
but seriously...Spidey's opinion on crash gear is pretty good reference - first hand experience is invaluable.
Quote from: Spider on June 14, 2008, 06:24:10 PM
but seriously...Spidey's opinion on crash gear is pretty good reference - first hand experience is invaluable.
exactly. btwn his opinion, and him showing off his "the EMTs cut this off of me" race leathers, well... I'm sold ;) I still think he needs to have it on the floor of his living room, like one of those bear rug things
i have to say i have the tpro jacket inserts for the back protector in a summer mesh jacket made by bmw.
i thought it would be too heavy and such bc it has a soft texture to it feeling rubbery.
in reality the back protetor basically molds to your back after about a few minutes bc of body heat, you don't even notice it. also the back protector itself is perforated so though it has a rubber look to it, it does have holes in it that let heat flow out of it. i wore it today in 80degree heat and it was fine not clammy at all.
the biggest thing is it molds to your back when worn and you forget about it.
the only thing that i don't like about hte tpro back protetor is that compared to the bmw back protetor 2 is that it doesn't really have any shoulderblade protection, it stops at the hshoulder blades leaving them unprotected. i'm stiell deciding if i want to get that or the bmw one since both are level 2 certified.
that BMW stuff does look good....was thinking about replacing my shoulder pads with it.
anything Cert 2 is impressive!
Hi Guys,
here in the Netherlands a biker mag performed a test of different back protectors, and the results were quite shocking. They tested 13 protectors, and of these, 8 didn't pass the test! A short summary of the results (too bad the test is in Dutch, otherwise I'd include the pdf):
Acerbis Atlantis 59: failed
Alpinestars Tech Backprotector: failed
Axo Backprotector: failed
BWM Protector 2: failed
Büse Protectorvest Belluno: test winner!!
Dainese Wave: passed
Erbo P8: failed
Götz P9: failed
Hein Gericke ProSports Safety Shirt: passed
Held Backprotector: failed
Louis Super Shield: failed
Polo Prolife: passed
Rukka Airpower: passed
Testing was performed according to CE 1621-2 guidelines, measuring remaining impact in five zones within the protected area, after a collision. After reading this, I immediately bought the Büse vest, and I'm quite satisfied so far!
http://www2.buese.com/websitev3/html/endkunde/artdetindexjacken.php?wgruppe=18B&kurzbezeichnung=BÃœSE Protektorenweste&farbe=schwarz (http://www2.buese.com/websitev3/html/endkunde/artdetindexjacken.php?wgruppe=18B&kurzbezeichnung=B%C3%83%C5%93SE%20Protektorenweste&farbe=schwarz)
Cheers!
Any detailed info on these tests. I don't like to go on pass/fail results alone.
Thanks for all the help. [beer]
Since budget was in issue, I ordered on of these http://www.highvelocitygear.com/productpages/velo-shield.html
It got a lot of good reviews. As soon as I get it I'll post my initial comments.
Quote from: IdZer0 on June 17, 2008, 05:44:16 AM
Any detailed info on these tests. I don't like to go on pass/fail results alone.
I'll try and translate a bit more as soon as I have the time, and I'll include some force measurement data.
Would certainly help if you could read Dutch though ;D
Quote from: red duke on June 17, 2008, 06:12:35 AM
Thanks for all the help. [beer]
Since budget was in issue, I ordered on of these http://www.highvelocitygear.com/productpages/velo-shield.html
It got a lot of good reviews. As soon as I get it I'll post my initial comments.
red duke
How do you like this back protector?
Quote from: Bizzarrini on June 17, 2008, 07:06:20 AM
Would certainly help if you could read Dutch though ;D
I do
I ride with the T pro...very comfortable...
It allows ariflow and is very thin and flexible; it is also designed to withstand multiple impacts. Some protectors aren't (the Dianesse Wave, for example).
Quote from: Grio on July 28, 2008, 11:19:33 AM
I ride with the T pro...very comfortable...
It allows ariflow and is very thin and flexible; it is also designed to withstand multiple impacts. Some protectors aren't (the Dianesse Wave, for example).
Have you run into any problems with track day schools wanting a hard back protector?
None at all...in fact, I don't know if I have ever seen "requirements" listed for back protectors at all.
Most of the local racers that use top of the line gear and sport custom suits use a soft type back protector. Yes there is always that risk that hard shelled armor could resist an impaling type injury, But those are few and far between, and hardshelled armor does not perform as well in some other areas.
Thanks for the info!
Dont the hard shells also play a roll in preventing over-extension of the back? Not sure how important this is either in preventing major injury over protecting against impact??
just got the dainese Wave 2 V neck - comfortable and better neck protection than anything else tried.
Here's a link to the thread with the latest BP test results in Ride! magazine
http://ducatimonsterforum.org/index.php?topic=7130.0
Quote from: RodeoClown on July 28, 2008, 08:11:31 AM
red duke
How do you like this back protector?
So far it's been good. I haven't used it for a trackday yet. Very comfortable. You forget it's on after a few minutes. I do like the hard shell.
The only thing I haven't determined is if I should leave in the soft back protector that came with my suit (non CE approved) when I wear this velo back protector.