It's starting to get warm here in SC (82 on Friday) so I'm trying to decide on a summer jacket. Right now I'm looking a the Dainese Air Flux and the Air-2. The Flux has more protection but the Air-2 has more air flow. It gets REALLY hot and humid here so I'm thinking of the Air-2 but I'm not sure. If the I could be sure that the Flux would flow enough air I'd probably go with it because of the better protection.
Anyone have any thoughts on these jackets or another rec? I like the look and fit of Dainese so any alternative would have to have a similar look and fit.
I like my Rev'it Air
http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no=8064 (http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no=8064)
(buy one size larger than Alpinestars or Dainese)
Quote from: stopintime on March 20, 2011, 06:57:48 PM
I like my Rev'it Air
http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no=8064 (http://stores.sportbiketrackgear.com/Detail.bok?no=8064)
(buy one size larger than Alpinestars or Dainese)
+1 on the air... i have it and it's great... cept i think they just came out with a slightly higher end updated version...
here you go:
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/revit-tarmac-air-textile-jacket (http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/revit-tarmac-air-textile-jacket)
but that being said, i like the looks of the air better.
No FHE with the Flux, but I do have an Air-2 that I picked up on the cheap. It's meh.
But I do have a Shotgun
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dainese-shotgun-jacket (http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/dainese-shotgun-jacket)
And quite like it the 3D mesh at the shoulders and lower back really do keep you cool. Also the stretchy materials of the chassis make for a nice snug fit, without feeling uncomfortable. FYI, you probably want to order one size smaller than expected. The Air-2 and another Dainese jacket I have are 48, I returned my 48 Shotgun for a 46.
Does the Shotgun flow a lot of air? It looks like there are only two small patches of mesh at the shoulders and the piece on the back. Looks like it would get hot. The Rev'It looks like tons of air flow. I'll have to go check one of those out.
If you can get a Dainese Rebel perforated leather Jacket, it has 2 big zipper Chest vents w. lower side zipper Exhaust vents and the whole front is perforated as well as along the inside of the arms , across the upper Chest and in back, there are 2 fairly good size perforated panels and perforations in the back of the arms.
It has the usual Shoulder and Elbow Armor plus Titainium Shoulder Armor.
Dolph [moto]
Quote from: rideserotta on March 21, 2011, 09:29:01 PM
Does the Shotgun flow a lot of air? It looks like there are only two small patches of mesh at the shoulders and the piece on the back. Looks like it would get hot. The Rev'It looks like tons of air flow. I'll have to go check one of those out.
Yes it does. Both the shoulder panels and the back are what they call 'boomerang mesh' some call it 3d etc etc. But it's got some thickness so it stands off your body a bit and lets the air actually flow in. With flat mesh, it presses against you skin, restricting the flow.
And the position of those panels helps as well - there's a low pressure area behind you, so between that and the high pressure at your front it forces air around your body and works quite well..
Does anyone own that jacket in red? I'm wondering if it would match with my red frame. And yes, I'm a douche, I know [laugh]
Quote from: 696DCRider on March 22, 2011, 11:17:18 AM
Does anyone own that jacket in red? I'm wondering if it would match with my red frame. And yes, I'm a douche, I know [laugh]
Which jacket?
oops, the shotgun.
(http://assets2.revzilla.com/product_images/0017/4798/dainese_shotgun_jacket_red_detail.png?1263252864)
If anyone owns the others in red too, I'm curious if they match with the Ducati Red. I usually buy all black gear, but I wouldn't mind getting my summer jacket in either Red or white to match my bike.
Sorry, don't know how the Dainese matches.
The red parts of the Rev'it Air jacket are colder red (tiny amount of blue in the red).
The white black new version might be the best for cooling and cool....
Rev'it CR textile is a part of the ongoing flirt between Rev'it and Ducati, it's supposed to
be a perfect match for the Ducati Red and has white S*R stripes. Not air flowing though.
Quote from: 696DCRider on March 22, 2011, 11:29:56 AM
oops, the shotgun.
(http://assets2.revzilla.com/product_images/0017/4798/dainese_shotgun_jacket_red_detail.png?1263252864)
If anyone owns the others in red too, I'm curious if they match with the Ducati Red. I usually buy all black gear, but I wouldn't mind getting my summer jacket in either Red or white to match my bike.
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It looks like more of a Honda red than a Ducati red to me.
So would it look odd to wear it with a white on red monster? All my other gear is black. I wouldn't mind having one piece that is a bit different, especially for summer time when I will be cruising around the city a lot.
I see what you mean.
Quote from: stopintime on March 22, 2011, 11:42:15 AM
Sorry, don't know how the Dainese matches.
The red parts of the Rev'it Air jacket are colder red (tiny amount of blue in the red).
The white black new version might be the best for cooling and cool....
Rev'it CR textile is a part of the ongoing flirt between Rev'it and Ducati, it's supposed to
be a perfect match for the Ducati Red and has white S*R stripes. Not air flowing though.
ah, one thing to keep in mind about the rev'it air jacket that i dont like is that the retro reflectives are exactly where back pack straps go over... so if you're wearing a back pack at night, there are no reflective properties at all.
The Dainese Stripes leather Jacket might not be a bad choice.
It is a thinner leather, it has 2 zipper Air vents at the Chest level w. zipper Exhaust Vents at the lower sides and a Sanityzed mesh liner for hot weather and a zip out Micro -Down liner for cooler weather riding.
It's made of Vintage leather as Dainese calls it and comes in Tobacco and Grey.
It has the normal Dainese CE Shoulder and Elbow Armor .
There are some Suede areas on the Jacket for interest.
Also some perforations on the inside of the lower Arms.
Also the Jacket has the Zipper for attachment to Dainese leather Pants.
Plus full leather zip cuffs w. leather velcro tab closure.
YDK zippers used throughour the Jacket.
2 front zip Pockets , one inside Pocket.
Stretch Fabric in the Shoulder areas fo easy freedom of movement.
Velcro straps on the sides of the Waist for adjustment.
Snap on the Collar for air tight closure.
The glowing Shoulder pieces are from the flash of the camera on the reflective elements .
Dolph :)
(http://i304.photobucket.com/albums/nn198/DoubleEagle_photo/DSCN0677.jpg)
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Nice looking, but if it's already 82 where his is, I'd think a lot more perf would be wanted.
Rev'it just (re)did the Tarmac and have a American version with more perf that the Euro one
http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/revit-tarmac-leather-jacket (http://www.revzilla.com/motorcycle/revit-tarmac-leather-jacket)
Don't mind Dolph. He is the perfect example of more money than brains.
Anyway, I've asked a few people down here in Florida that own the Shotgun and they love it. They use it during summer when it's 95 degrees 100% humidity.
Textile mesh Jackets most always are cooler than perfed leather Jackets.
They don't offer the same level of skin protection from road rash though as leather.
Dolph :)
I have both. In the city mesh is cooler, at speed either is equally cool.
I like being safe, and I have a perf leather jacket that I wear. My idea behind getting a mesh jacket is to wear only when I am tooling around in the city since I probably won't be going that fast. I like the idea that these are a textile/mesh combo so maybe u get a bit more protection. I actually high-sided in a mesh jacket going like 40-45 and I was fine. I'm all about being safe though.
I'm looking for mesh and now leaning toward Rev'it Air. Most of my riding in this summer jacket will be commuting to work. Stop and go, 45mph max... Unless I take the long way home. [evil]
Quote from: 696DCRider on March 24, 2011, 08:36:25 PM
I like being safe, and I have a perf leather jacket that I wear. My idea behind getting a mesh jacket is to wear only when I am tooling around in the city since I probably won't be going that fast. I like the idea that these are a textile/mesh combo so maybe u get a bit more protection. I actually high-sided in a mesh jacket going like 40-45 and I was fine. I'm all about being safe though.
It kind of depends what you high side into / onto.
If it's a field of grass or corn , or a stand of trees or sliding down the ole 4 lane , each experience is different.
To bad we don't usually get to choose.
Me , I'm going w. the most amount of protection I can.
Dolph [moto]
Thanks for all of the advice. I now have a Dainese Shotgun on the way. I'll report on it when it gets hot enough to use it. I got the black/grey color.
I have the Dainese Air 2 and love it! I live in Arizona and the temps here gets up to 120F, Yikes! If you go with the Air 2, I got mine new off a ebay retailer for much less than at your local store. Plus no tax and free ship! I think you will be happy with either of the Dainese jackets. [thumbsup]
I have the Revit Air and have to say I like it a lot. It fits well (I also went one size larger than normal) and circulates air well. I wear it with a cheap windbreaker in the mornings and without in the afternoons.
No FHE, but the guy at the shop warned me away from the Joe Rocket mesh jacket. I guess the mesh does not hold up as well as some of the other ones. Again, I'm spreading rumors, but definitely double check the quality of the mesh material if possible.
Well, any mesh jacket isn't going to hold up all that well... by comparison.
But a local and board member dumped at 60 or so in a JR mesh jacket and it held up pretty well. I wouldn't have trusted it to have another go like that, but it didn't disintegrate or anything dramatic and kept him from suffering much injury (bike endo'd on him, but that's different)
I high sided in a mesh jacket going like 45 and it held up fine for me. The only issue I had is the jacket riding up on me while I was sliding on my back (ouch!). I'm sure a CE back protector would have been stiff enough to have helped in that situation. Live and learn...
Quote from: Sad Panda on April 11, 2011, 10:27:37 AM
Well, any mesh jacket isn't going to hold up all that well... by comparison.
But a local and board member dumped at 60 or so in a JR mesh jacket and it held up pretty well. I wouldn't have trusted it to have another go like that, but it didn't disintegrate or anything dramatic and kept him from suffering much injury (bike endo'd on him, but that's different)
Good news and bad news... I got the Dainese Shotgun. It looks and feels great. I've ridden in it three times and the airflow in incredible. The bad news is that I've come to the conclusion that it's too big soooo.... I'm going to list it in the gear for sale section. I can't return it because it has been worn. It's the black/grey version. I was told it's in good enough shape to return and tell them it was not worn. I don't work that way. I knew the deal beforehand so I'll live with the loss. Already ordered a 52. Check it out if you're in the market. It really is an awesome jacket.
that is a nice loking mesh jacket i might get the revit pheonix for summer as it has mesh/leather combo, i like the look of it.
but for summer jackets that are all mesh i like anything by bmw motorcycle gear, the airflow jacket is great only problme is it is as much as any good leather jacket. so price is an issue for some.
What is your weight and body type?
Quote from: rideserotta on April 11, 2011, 06:40:56 PM
Good news and bad news... I got the Dainese Shotgun. It looks and feels great. I've ridden in it three times and the airflow in incredible. The bad news is that I've come to the conclusion that it's too big soooo.... I'm going to list it in the gear for sale section. I can't return it because it has been worn. It's the black/grey version. I was told it's in good enough shape to return and tell them it was not worn. I don't work that way. I knew the deal beforehand so I'll live with the loss. Already ordered a 52. Check it out if you're in the market. It really is an awesome jacket.
I'm 5'8" 180 with a medium build. I have a 33in waist / 42in chest.
Oh okay. That will be too big for me too then. Oh well. It's still not blazing hot here yet anyway so I am putting my purchase off for a little while.
Quote from: rideserotta on April 12, 2011, 03:52:09 AM
I'm 5'8" 180 with a medium build. I have a 33in waist / 42in chest.
Quote from: rideserotta on April 11, 2011, 06:40:56 PM
Good news and bad news... I got the Dainese Shotgun. It looks and feels great. I've ridden in it three times and the airflow in incredible. The bad news is that I've come to the conclusion that it's too big soooo.... I'm going to list it in the gear for sale section. I can't return it because it has been worn. It's the black/grey version. I was told it's in good enough shape to return and tell them it was not worn. I don't work that way. I knew the deal beforehand so I'll live with the loss. Already ordered a 52. Check it out if you're in the market. It really is an awesome jacket.
For future reference, cyclegear will take returns on items that have been worn - and their policy specifically says so. So you don't need to worry about it - that's what I did with my shotgun.
I like you found that it ran large and returned it for a saze smaller than my Dianese leather jacket.
For anyone looking at these, order a size smaller. They run large, and they have a good bit of stretch material